my husband told me, after many years of being together, that when he was about 7 a teacher used to single him out for being disrespectful at school. Apparently his disrespectful offense was “smirking” too much???? So he got punished for smiling???? And eventually just trained himself to stop smiling so this teacher would leave him alone???? And that’s why he has such a stoic facial expression now and can’t smile for photographs.
I had to…..privately cry after hearing that one
Wow
It’s the only way men are able to discuss their issues because society taught them that they shouldn’t burden people with their issues or that their issues are meaningless or that their issues aren’t actually a thing. Sharing anecdotes with friends is one way of talking about it, because they feel comfortable enough to share. At the same time, they might just not know that the event was traumatic because it’s traumay’all.
im-
Take this to be your reminder that men experience trauma too and need a safe space to talk about it. Be that safe space for your friends who are men
Sometimes you have to tell a man “so you were assaulted” and they say “it’s not a big deal I told that story a million times everyone always laughs” and you just have to give him 15 minutes or maybe an hour until he comes back and says “hey I think you might be right”
… You’re all chumps. This is a manipulation tactic. Quit falling for it.
There’s a time and place to share a traumatic story with a friend.
Men are not fragile naive Tarzan babies oblivious to social conventions. They want you to believe that they are so you’ll put up with them trampling your boundaries.
Men fully understand there’s a right time and a wrong time to bring up a traumatic topic. They confront people with shocking stories at the wrong time on purpose.
She is right about one thing though. While you spiral trying to navigate his untimely declarations, he’s giving off a Beach Boys vibe. He’s giving off that Beach Boys vibe because he won. He made you uncomfortable. He mad you lose your train of thought. He’s making you feel sorry for him. He’s in total control and you’re completely lost in the situation he created.
Wise up. Quit rewarding this behavior. Immediately point out to him what he’s doing. “That came out of nowhere. Why are you telling me this right now?”
Yo what the actual fuck is wrong with you
>female-malice
The blog name doesn’t lie
“Men fully understand there’s a right time and a wrong time to bring up a traumatic topic. ”
i thought the post was about men NOT REALIZING something was a traumatic topic….
The thread so far has included women who didn’t think men realized they were telling (possibly false) “traumatic” anecdotes.
wtf are you even saying. there’s so many emphasis methods(brackets and quotes) here that i don’t understand a thing you’re trying to “convey”
I’m saying that the men in these anecdotes, both the TikTok posted by OP and the one written by Zymomonasmobilis, know when they telling the women in their lives “traumatic” experiences they’ve had (assuming they were even telling the truth), and were expecting these unfortunate women to perform emotional labor on their behalf. It’s textbook manipulation.
“I expect someone I am in a relationshiporfriendship withtocare about my issues” is not manipulation, that’s…literally the whole point of having bonds with other people. Mutual support.
Zy is talking about her* husband. You know, someone she’s vowed to love and cherish? There’s no indication of what he expected her to do. None.
Dude, I gotta wonder who broke you like this.
* I assume.
This is Exo, expecting basic humanity out of him is asking FAR too much.
I do, however, expect him to be exactly the kind of person he claims other men are, an abusive manipulator who lies casually and puts his emotional burdens on everyone else to carry.
Well, I have no mental illness or trauma that I can unload on other people. I don’t pour my heart out on anyone, but I will let it trickle out slightly. With other men. Usually when they ask me why I’m doing a certain thing or acting a certain way. And only tell them the minimal information necessary for an explanation.
Even my addictive behavior is only really I thing I discuss with other men (my addictions almost exclusively affect men) with the same issue.
My old flame tells me my problem is that I’m not open or emotionally available enough with her.
You know I don’t believe you when you say this, yes?
And for a pretty basic reason?
‘I’m saying that the men in these anecdotes, both the TikTok posted by OP and the one written by Zymomonasmobilis, know when they telling the women in their lives “traumatic” experiences they’ve had (assuming they were even telling the truth), and were expecting these unfortunate women to perform emotional labor on their behalf. It’s textbook manipulation.’
This? Is what you consider standard of men. We know this is what you consider standard of men, because you accuse men you’ve never met of doing this. It’s the same as how you consider anyone who believes in men’s rights to be lying, because you were lying when you pretended to believe in men’s rights.
This is your default standard for men, which as a basis can only come when it’s a default standard for yourself.
I say this specifically because that’s your response in a very consistent basis. Even more so in that you try to position yourself AS the kind of person that the video is describing.
You’re a very unchristian person, Thee.
edit: ‘Well, I have no mental illness or trauma that I can unload on other people.’ is a pretty comical line too, for anyone who’s had to deal with your shit on Tumblr for a length of time. You do it every fucking time you see someone saying men deserve support.
“This? Is what you consider standard of men…because you accuse men you’ve never met of doing this.”
It’s not my default standard for men. Men unloading like this isn’t common. I accuse the men mentioned above of manipulation because the anecdotes resemble patterns I’ve seen of manipulative men IRL, and the patterns of manipulative behavior discussed here, specifically points 7, 9, 13, and 14.
“It’s the same as how you consider anyone who believes in men’s rights to be lying, because you were lying when you pretended to believe in men’s rights.”
The MRM is decentralized. Not every MRA looks the same. You’d get on my case anyway if I insisted otherwise, and you know it. I at one point thought sociocultural expectations of men were unfair, and believed feminists held disproportionate levels of power. That’s it. Those are the core teachings of the MRM.
“'Well, I have no mental illness or trauma that I can unload on other people,’ is a pretty comical line too, for anyone who’s had to deal with your shit on Tumblr for a length of time. You do it every fucking time you see someone saying men deserve support.”
I don’t bring up my lack of mental illness and trauma every time MRAs and their ideological partners demand women provide emotional labor for men. And if I did mention having mental illness or trauma, you’d accuse me of hypocrisy. I didn’t spend the first few months of 2017 in a crisis of belief to play games MRAs and their ideological partners rigged.
Thee, again, you’re a known liar. and a hypocrite. You come into things deliberately claiming the worst possible thing is what people believe, because it fits into your beliefs and bad behavior.
You are, quite simply, not a trustworthy source, especially when you try and present yourself as reasonable, because I HAVE SEEN YOU LIE.
I have SEEN you state men just want to assault women.
I have RECORDS of you claiming that the men and women telling you that men cannot actually sue for paternity fraud based on their states laws are really just sitting around dumbfounded as if the idea never occurred to them.
I have seen you act disbelieving that women can, in fact, not just sue for gender based pay fraud, but that there’s an actual federal department existing to investigate such frauds based on race, gender and sexuality that will investigate such claims, a thing that does not exist to issues of marriage or paternity issues.
And now you claim you don’t have a mental illness (which I honestly doubt with your pattern of behavior) or how you don’t force other people to carry the emotional burden of dealing with you (while you’re one of the most toxic and harmful people I’ve dealt with on the internet) claiming that men, doing basic things ANY human being should be allowed to do, discussing their emotions and traumas with another (guess what fucko women actually do this thing) as somehow being toxic and manipulative…
Because you think men are evil.
Don’t piss in my hair and tell me it’s raining, you sinful wretch. I have seen your acts and you are simply being judged by them.
Unfriendly reminder that Exo is a sexual predator who calls women “dick suckers” and “handmaidens” If they don’t hate men and harassed and stalked his ex girlfriend, even made racialised remarks towards her.
Reblogging with the proof above, please for the love of gods if you are either a woman or man, or whoever, please just block Exo above. He’s the kind of “male feminist” who is obviously just claiming to be one so he could snatch one of us women. We deserve better.
And men deserve better than to share some chromosomes with such a heartless creep.
This is a reductive way of putting it. I believe that the culture promotes evil things (such as men forcing women into emotional labor), and that unless men actively resist this cultural programming every second of every minute of every hour of every day, they will fall for the culture’s snares.
Yeah stop projecting. Your experience is not universal. This only describes you. I’ll “reduct” you to a paste in my presence. I wouldn’t trust you around any woman or child. This is not something I extend to all other men. You just seem to think all other men are just like you. You disgust me.
I’m not projecting my experience, because habitually forcing women to perform emotional labor on my behalf is not something I’ve ever done. I don’t think other men are like me, and therein lies the problem which I perceive.
You’re the quintessential creepy male feminist bud. You keep repeating this “emotional labor” bullshit as if all men should act like you. I fear for the women around you the day you snap. No mentally stable man thinks men are “constantly resisting this programming every second of every day”. You might as well be saying “yeah all men have the urge to be as horrible as possible… But not me :)”. And that’s horrifying. Because you think your own internal “true nature” is the same for all men. YiKeS.
I’ve seen you got this exo creep down pat, but I’m wondering what the fuck does he mean in the tags here.
Like, what is he saying? That men who don’t realize that they’re traumatized pee sitting down, which is something women do, so they are weak like women? That’s pretty misogynistic thing to say. Of course I’ve seen his little comments to use women like handmaidens, so not shocked there. But to be so blatantly sexist while claiming to be “helping” us women. Just… wow. The lack of dramatic irony from this guy.
(Oh he also responded back to my earlier reblog with this creepy thing about “saving himself for marriage,” dude when I said “snatch up one of us women” I meant like dating and or marrying a poor victim of you. But good job showing your true intent by immediately going for sex. XD)
my husband told me, after many years of being together, that when he was about 7 a teacher used to single him out for being disrespectful at school. Apparently his disrespectful offense was “smirking” too much???? So he got punished for smiling???? And eventually just trained himself to stop smiling so this teacher would leave him alone???? And that’s why he has such a stoic facial expression now and can’t smile for photographs.
I had to…..privately cry after hearing that one
Wow
It’s the only way men are able to discuss their issues because society taught them that they shouldn’t burden people with their issues or that their issues are meaningless or that their issues aren’t actually a thing. Sharing anecdotes with friends is one way of talking about it, because they feel comfortable enough to share. At the same time, they might just not know that the event was traumatic because it’s traumay’all.
im-
Take this to be your reminder that men experience trauma too and need a safe space to talk about it. Be that safe space for your friends who are men
Sometimes you have to tell a man “so you were assaulted” and they say “it’s not a big deal I told that story a million times everyone always laughs” and you just have to give him 15 minutes or maybe an hour until he comes back and says “hey I think you might be right”
… You’re all chumps. This is a manipulation tactic. Quit falling for it.
There’s a time and place to share a traumatic story with a friend.
Men are not fragile naive Tarzan babies oblivious to social conventions. They want you to believe that they are so you’ll put up with them trampling your boundaries.
Men fully understand there’s a right time and a wrong time to bring up a traumatic topic. They confront people with shocking stories at the wrong time on purpose.
She is right about one thing though. While you spiral trying to navigate his untimely declarations, he’s giving off a Beach Boys vibe. He’s giving off that Beach Boys vibe because he won. He made you uncomfortable. He mad you lose your train of thought. He’s making you feel sorry for him. He’s in total control and you’re completely lost in the situation he created.
Wise up. Quit rewarding this behavior. Immediately point out to him what he’s doing. “That came out of nowhere. Why are you telling me this right now?”
Yo what the actual fuck is wrong with you
>female-malice
The blog name doesn’t lie
“Men fully understand there’s a right time and a wrong time to bring up a traumatic topic. ”
i thought the post was about men NOT REALIZING something was a traumatic topic….
The thread so far has included women who didn’t think men realized they were telling (possibly false) “traumatic” anecdotes.
wtf are you even saying. there’s so many emphasis methods(brackets and quotes) here that i don’t understand a thing you’re trying to “convey”
I’m saying that the men in these anecdotes, both the TikTok posted by OP and the one written by Zymomonasmobilis, know when they telling the women in their lives “traumatic” experiences they’ve had (assuming they were even telling the truth), and were expecting these unfortunate women to perform emotional labor on their behalf. It’s textbook manipulation.
“I expect someone I am in a relationshiporfriendship withtocare about my issues” is not manipulation, that’s…literally the whole point of having bonds with other people. Mutual support.
Zy is talking about her* husband. You know, someone she’s vowed to love and cherish? There’s no indication of what he expected her to do. None.
Dude, I gotta wonder who broke you like this.
* I assume.
This is Exo, expecting basic humanity out of him is asking FAR too much.
I do, however, expect him to be exactly the kind of person he claims other men are, an abusive manipulator who lies casually and puts his emotional burdens on everyone else to carry.
Well, I have no mental illness or trauma that I can unload on other people. I don’t pour my heart out on anyone, but I will let it trickle out slightly. With other men. Usually when they ask me why I’m doing a certain thing or acting a certain way. And only tell them the minimal information necessary for an explanation.
Even my addictive behavior is only really I thing I discuss with other men (my addictions almost exclusively affect men) with the same issue.
My old flame tells me my problem is that I’m not open or emotionally available enough with her.
You know I don’t believe you when you say this, yes?
And for a pretty basic reason?
‘I’m saying that the men in these anecdotes, both the TikTok posted by OP and the one written by Zymomonasmobilis, know when they telling the women in their lives “traumatic” experiences they’ve had (assuming they were even telling the truth), and were expecting these unfortunate women to perform emotional labor on their behalf. It’s textbook manipulation.’
This? Is what you consider standard of men. We know this is what you consider standard of men, because you accuse men you’ve never met of doing this. It’s the same as how you consider anyone who believes in men’s rights to be lying, because you were lying when you pretended to believe in men’s rights.
This is your default standard for men, which as a basis can only come when it’s a default standard for yourself.
I say this specifically because that’s your response in a very consistent basis. Even more so in that you try to position yourself AS the kind of person that the video is describing.
You’re a very unchristian person, Thee.
edit: 'Well, I have no mental illness or trauma that I can unload on other people.’ is a pretty comical line too, for anyone who’s had to deal with your shit on Tumblr for a length of time. You do it every fucking time you see someone saying men deserve support.
“This? Is what you consider standard of men…because you accuse men you’ve never met of doing this.”
It’s not my default standard for men. Men unloading like this isn’t common. I accuse the men mentioned above of manipulation because the anecdotes resemble patterns I’ve seen of manipulative men IRL, and the patterns of manipulative behavior discussed here, specifically points 7, 9, 13, and 14.
“It’s the same as how you consider anyone who believes in men’s rights to be lying, because you were lying when you pretended to believe in men’s rights.”
The MRM is decentralized. Not every MRA looks the same. You’d get on my case anyway if I insisted otherwise, and you know it. I at one point thought sociocultural expectations of men were unfair, and believed feminists held disproportionate levels of power. That’s it. Those are the core teachings of the MRM.
“'Well, I have no mental illness or trauma that I can unload on other people,’ is a pretty comical line too, for anyone who’s had to deal with your shit on Tumblr for a length of time. You do it every fucking time you see someone saying men deserve support.”
I don’t bring up my lack of mental illness and trauma every time MRAs and their ideological partners demand women provide emotional labor for men. And if I did mention having mental illness or trauma, you’d accuse me of hypocrisy. I didn’t spend the first few months of 2017 in a crisis of belief to play games MRAs and their ideological partners rigged.
Thee, again, you’re a known liar. and a hypocrite. You come into things deliberately claiming the worst possible thing is what people believe, because it fits into your beliefs and bad behavior.
You are, quite simply, not a trustworthy source, especially when you try and present yourself as reasonable, because I HAVE SEEN YOU LIE.
I have SEEN you state men just want to assault women.
I have RECORDS of you claiming that the men and women telling you that men cannot actually sue for paternity fraud based on their states laws are really just sitting around dumbfounded as if the idea never occurred to them.
I have seen you act disbelieving that women can, in fact, not just sue for gender based pay fraud, but that there’s an actual federal department existing to investigate such frauds based on race, gender and sexuality that will investigate such claims, a thing that does not exist to issues of marriage or paternity issues.
And now you claim you don’t have a mental illness (which I honestly doubt with your pattern of behavior) or how you don’t force other people to carry the emotional burden of dealing with you (while you’re one of the most toxic and harmful people I’ve dealt with on the internet) claiming that men, doing basic things ANY human being should be allowed to do, discussing their emotions and traumas with another (guess what fucko women actually do this thing) as somehow being toxic and manipulative…
Because you think men are evil.
Don’t piss in my hair and tell me it’s raining, you sinful wretch. I have seen your acts and you are simply being judged by them.
Unfriendly reminder that Exo is a sexual predator who calls women “dick suckers” and “handmaidens” If they don’t hate men and harassed and stalked his ex girlfriend, even made racialised remarks towards her.
Reblogging with the proof above, please for the love of gods if you are either a woman or man, or whoever, please just block Exo above. He’s the kind of “male feminist” who is obviously just claiming to be one so he could snatch one of us women. We deserve better.
And men deserve better than to share some chromosomes with such a heartless creep.
@/maleprivilegehaver is propably a terf who tries to pass as an anti- terf non binary person. Be very careful guys, he is posting on the transandrophobia tag
You can’t “take back radical feminism” from TERFs and SWERFs. It’s not like they’ve co-opted anything.
If you take the trans-exclusionary and anti-sex work attitudes out of radical feminism you still have a whole lot of either bioessentialism and/or gender essentialism, which is an integral part of radical feminism, and also still harmful.
Radical feminism is based on treating masculinity as the Other, which is fucked for several layers of reasons. Starting with the fact that this approach is just repackaged gender essentialism and also pathologizing half the world’s population in a monolithic fashion is rank assholery.
here’s my one whole discourse post for pride month. you fucks will never ever ever wean off the radfem shit if you keep trying to give “cis men are evil” nuance. no, it’s not bad because they could be closeted or questioning, it’s bad because gender essentialism is a fucking brain poison and it makes you stupid
Like and reblog if your account is a safe space for trans lesbians. It feels like trans lesbians in particular get shamed and ridiculed a lot by people in and out of the community. If you’re reading this I want to let you know you’re valid and I hope your safe and doing well.
Have you been on Reddit? Nearly all of the lesbian or female centric subreddits has transwomen in it. r/lesbians has scores of those marginalized transwomen you’re discussing. There is virtually no talk of actual female homosexuals.
Lesbian = female homosexual. Well at least that’s what it used to be.
“We are shamed and ridiculed” well I see a lot of that ‘boner euphoria’ and how HRT gives transwomen periods, so it’s a total mystery why you get such a bad rap.
Reminder the Helen Joyce claims trans rights activism is funded by a globalist Jewish conspiracy, which is literally the same belief held by white nationalists. It should come as no surprise that hatred of jews isn’t the only part of Nazi ideology Joyce wants to emulate here.
people on here will be like fuck terfs im not a terf im just a misandrist i just think men are icky and evil and womanhood is inherently suffering and victimhood and i will be loud about it and form much of my personality around this
