Me? I’m dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It’s the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they’re going to do something incredibly… s t u p i d.
Not that I don’t love the movies, but I kind of feel like Elizabeth and Will’s places should have been switched at the end of At World’s End. Like, Will never gave a damn about pirating, he was just there for Elizabeth. Elizabeth, on the other hand, LOVED the sea, loved adventure and piracy, and there’s no way she’d just stay on the land for TEN YEARS at a time for Will. Both of them would be utterly miserable in that situation and, though the ending was bittersweet, it was NOT supposed to be an unhappy one.
What I’m saying is, Will is absolutely the type to play the dutiful husband and father waiting on the shore for his love (he literally already had ten years of practice waiting for Elizabeth as a child), and Elizabeth was already the pirate king, so being sworn to sail the seas for years at a time would have been the tragic other side of her devotion to adventure. The only reason they were switched is because of stereotypical gender roles.
im glad you’re all talking about pirates of the caribbean, because i want it known
The plot might’ve gotten too complicated for most people to follow, but it was actually so fucking cool????
Because Davy Jones was a sailor, right? He fell in love with the sea.
Specifically, the sea goddess Calypso. And of course, that’s already romantic, a sailor in love with the sea…
But then it gets even better.
Because in order to be with her, he must become the ferryman of all who die at sea. And with this duty, he is then cursed, and cannot step foot on land…except, once every ten years, the only time when he can see his beloved sea goddess.
but because the sea is wily, mischievous, playful and wicked at heart, she fails to meet him.
and in his rage, he convinces all the pirate lords to bind her into human form. but he still loves her, and out of guilt, he carves out his own heart and stuffs it in a box full of love letters for her.
and then he goes on to abandon his duty, entrapped in his own bitterness, enslaving souls to himself and his ship…
and isn’t that the irony?
he felt abandoned and betrayed by the sea, and thus, he chose to abandon all the souls lost at sea, the people he had once sworn to protect and lead to the next life?
THAT SHIT IS SO SICK.
It’s so old world romantic.
i am adamant on this.
Pirates of the Caribbean wasn’t expected to be successful. Pirates were just not considered to be marketable anymore, they were like cowboys.
But this movie comes along, that puts the spirit of adventure into our hearts, and has this just…love, this real affection for an epic quest centered around sailing treacherous waters and the depths of the high seas.
Jack Sparrow, in love with the sea himself, Will Turner, the classic romantic after the damsel in distress, and Elizabeth Swann, defying that role and searching for an adventure of her own.
It’s like a love letter to the past, to the mysteries of the ocean, the dazzling fascination, the morbid attraction, the dizzying fear that all sailors knew every time they stepped foot on a ship.
it was an homage to some of the grand legends and stories we used to tell about the old world, a place that was fascinated with what could lie beyond vast swaths of perilous waters.
i know 2 and 3 were complicated, but…i actually have a fondness for the lore.
i wish they would remake it, and maybe make that amazing lore more clear and less muddied by convoluted inter-politics.
I think Davy Jones is suuuuch an interesting character, and his romance with Calypso was so thematic and fitting and so appropriate to the subject matter, and to the spirit of adventure, and it simply is not talked about enough.
“our flag means death what we do in the shadows and good omens should be the new superwholock” WRONG our flag means death black sails and pirates of the caribbean should be the new superwholock except now they’re all pirate media with canonically queer people in them. like I cannot BELIEVE how soon you people forgot that jack sparrow is literally canonically gay divorced
like okay to elaborate on this obviously they couldn’t go super explicit because this was disney in 2003, but in the original idea for the film jack and captain barbossa were like. confirmed as having been in a relationship and while a lot of it was obviously cut what you need to know about the original pirates of the caribbean set was that it was like. almost lawless so some of that did make it through to the film like for example this line
and just in how the two of them interact with each other like in this shot for example
and we see more of this in the later movies like this bit in at world’s end
and this bit in on stranger tides
sorry for the long post I’m just very passionate about this and literally no one talks about this for some reason. like my darling tumblerinas gay pirates have been real since 2003
Being a pirate meant lots of looting, ships, battles and ron -don’t forget this marvellous drink. The rest of things in life didn’t exist for you, and it involved love. All you had had was some affair with good-looking men, but you had never been in love. Until you met Will Turner, Bootstrap Bill Turner’s son, someone completely different from you but the man who you’d fight the seven seas for.
“What an horrible taste in men do you have…honestly, he’s sometimes from both sides of conflicts but most of the times he knows what he’s doing, at least I guess.”
Not that I don’t love the movies, but I kind of feel like Elizabeth and Will’s places should have been switched at the end of At World’s End. Like, Will never gave a damn about pirating, he was just there for Elizabeth. Elizabeth, on the other hand, LOVED the sea, loved adventure and piracy, and there’s no way she’d just stay on the land for TEN YEARS at a time for Will. Both of them would be utterly miserable in that situation and, though the ending was bittersweet, it was NOT supposed to be an unhappy one.
What I’m saying is, Will is absolutely the type to play the dutiful husband and father waiting on the shore for his love (he literally already had ten years of practice waiting for Elizabeth as a child), and Elizabeth was already the pirate king, so being sworn to sail the seas for years at a time would have been the tragic other side of her devotion to adventure. The only reason they were switched is because of stereotypical gender roles.
