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The newest edition of the DC Encyclopedia has Eobard on the cover.

I recently got this for Christmas. The Flash characters that appear in the book (with comparisons to their entries in the 2008 book) are: 

• Abra Kadabra: 5′ 10″, 125 lbs. Green eyes, bald. 
• Abra Kadabra (2008 Encyclopedia): 6′ 6″, 209 lbs. Blue eyes, black hair. 
• Captain Boomerang/Digger: 5′ 9″, 167 lbs. Brown eyes, brown hair. 
• Captain Boomerang/Digger (2008): 5′ 9″, 167 lbs. Brown eyes, brown hair.
• Captain Boomerang/Owen: Gets a couple brief mentions in Digger’s writeup.
  
• Captain Boomerang/Owen (2008): 6′ 1″, 190 lbs. Gray eyes, red hair. Gets his own writeup. 
• Captain Cold: 6′ 2″, 196 lbs. Blue eyes, brown hair
• Captan Cold (2008): 6′ 2″, 196 lbs. Brown eyes, brown hair. 
• Cicada: Brief writeup in the back of the book 
• Cicada (2008): 6′ 1″, 180 lbs. Blue eyes, white hair. 
• Cobalt Blue: 5′ 11″, 179 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair.
• Cobalt Blue (2008): 5′ 11″, 179 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair.
• Dr. Alchemy: Brief writeup in the back of the book.
• Dr. Alchemy (2008): His real name is listed as Albert/Alvin Desmond. 5′ 11″, 171 lbs. Green eyes, red hair. The red hair is pretty much exclusive to Alvin (Albert has black hair) so I guess the stats provided are Alvin’s, but I guess both men could have the same height, weight, and eye color. 
• Flash/Barry: 5′ 11″, 179 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair. 
• Flash/Barry (2008): 5′ 11″, 179 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair. 
• Flash/Jay: 5′ 11″, 178 lbs. Blue eyes, grey hair (formerly blonde????)
• Flash/Jay (2008): 5′ 11″, 178 lbs. Blue eyes, brown hair with grey temples.
• Flash/Wally (listed as Wally West): 6 ft, 175 lbs. Green eyes, red hair. 
• Flash/Wally (2008): 6 ft, 175 lbs. Green eyes, red hair.
• The Flash of China: Brown eyes, black and purple hair. No height/weight listed. Debuted in 2016. 
• Fiddler: Brief writeup in back of book
• Fiddler (2008): N/A
• Folded Man: Brief writeup in back of book. 
• Folded Man (2008): 5′ 11″, 182 lbs. Brown eyes, black hair. 
• Girder: Brief writeup in back of book. 
• Girder (2008): 7′ 8″, 1,500 lbs. Glowing yellow eyes, metallic hair. 
  
• Golden Glider: 5′ 5″, 117 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair. 
• Golden Glider (2008): 5′ 5″, 117 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair. 
• Goldface: Brief writeup in back of book.
• Goldface (2008): 5′ 9″, 180 lbs. Brown eyes, brown hair. 
• Godspeed: Brown eyes, black hair. No height/weight listed. Debuted 2016. 
• Gorilla Grodd: 6′ 6″, 600 lbs. Gray eyes, black hair. 
• Gorilla Grodd (2008):  6′ 6″, 600 lbs. Gray eyes, black hair. 
• Heat Wave: 5′ 11″, 179 lbs. Blue eyes, no hair. 
• Heat Wave (2008): 5′ 11″, 179 lbs. Blue eyes, no hair. 
• King Solovar: N/A
• King Solovar (2008): 6′ 5″, 603 lbs. Black eyes, grey hair. 
• Impulse (Bart): Yellow eyes, auburn hair. No height/weight listed. 
• Flash/Bart (2008): 5′ 11″, 178 lbs. Yellow eyes, brown hair. (Note that this is his “aged-to-adulthood” body.) 
• Kid Flash (Wallace): Brown eyes, black hair. No height/weight listed. Debuted 2014.
• Kid Flash (2008): N/A. Would have been Bart if the book had been published a few years earlier. 
• Lady Flash: Brief writeup in back of book 
• Lady Flash (2008): 6′ 1″, 155 lbs. Brown eyes, auburn hair. 
• Liberty Belle II: 5′ 9″, 142 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair.
• Jesse Quick (2008): 5′ 9″, 142 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair.
• Magenta: 5′ 7″, 134 lbs. Blue eyes, purple hair. 
• Magenta (2008):  5′ 7″, 134 lbs. Blue eyes, purple hair. 
• Max Mercury: 6′ 1″, 188 lbs. Blue eyes, grey hair. 
• Max Mercury (2008): 6′ 1″, 188 lbs. Blue eyes, grey hair. 
• Mirror Master/Sam: 5′ 10″, 175 lbs. Brown eyes, brown hair. 
• Mirror Master/Sam (2008): 5′ 10″, 175 lbs. Brown eyes, brown hair. 
• Mirror Master/Evan: Brief mention in Sam’s writeup
• Mirror Master/Evan (2008): 5′ 11″, 173 lbs. Brown eyes, brown hair. 
• Murmur: 5′ 8″, 155 lbs.  Brown eyes, black hair. 
• Murmur (2008): 5′ 8″, 155 lbs.  Brown eyes, grey hair. 
• Linda Park: 5′ 6″, 120 lbs. Brown eyes, black hair. 
• Linda Park (2008): 5′ 6″, 137 lbs. Brown eyes, black hair. 
• Pied Piper: 5′ 10″, 158 lbs. Blue eyes, red hair. 
• Pied Piper (2008): 5′ 10″, 158 lbs. Blue eyes, reddish-blonde hair. 
• Plunder: Brief writeup in back of book. 
• Plunder (2008): 5′ 11″, 190 lbs. White eyes, no hair. 
• Johnny Quick: N/A. 
• Johnny Quick: 5′ 11′, 170 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair. 
• Eobard/Professor Zoom the Reverse-Flash: 6 ft, 195 lbs. Blue eyes, white hair. 
• Eobard/Revese-Flash (2008): 5′ 11″, 179 lbs. Blue eyes, reddish-blonde hair. 
• Daniel/Reverse-Flash: 5′ 10″, 175 lbs. Blue eyes, brown hair. Debuted 2012. 
• Replicant: 7′ 5″, 325 lbs. Mirrored eyes, no hair. 
• Replicant (2008):  7′ 5″, 325 lbs. Mirrored eyes, no hair. 
• Rose and Thorn: Green eyes, brown hair. No height/weight listed.
• Rose and Thorn (2008): 5′ 7″, 140 lbs. Green eyes,  blonde hair as Rose, red hair as Thorn. 
• Savitar: Brief writeup in back of book.
• Savitar (2008): 6′ 4″, 220 lbs. Light blue eyes, black hair. 
• Shade: 6′ 2″, 170 lbs. Grey eyes, black hair. 
• Shade (2008): 6′ 2″, 170 lbs. Grey eyes, black hair. 
• Patty Spivot: 5′ 3″, 133 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair. 
• Patty Spivot (2008): N/A
• Tar Pit: Brief writeup in back of book
• Tar Pit (2008): Variable height and weight. Yellow eyes, no hair. 
• Thinker: Clifford DeVoe and Cliff Carmichael are both mentioned in the writeup, but no height, weight, hair color, or eye color is listed. 
• Thinker (2008): N/A. 
• Top: Brief writeup in back of book.
• Top (2008): 6 ft, 179 lbs. Blue eyes, brown hair. 
• Trickster: Writeup mentions both James and Axel, with slightly more focus given to James. However, the stats belong only to Axel: 5′ 7″, 150 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair. 
• Trickster (2008): The stats are still Axel’s: 5′ 7″, 150 lbs. Blue eyes, blonde hair.  However, the writetup is still a pretty even split between Axel and James. 
• Turtle: Green eyes, grey hair. No height/weight listed. 
• Turtle (2008): N/A
• Weather Wizard: 6′ 1″, 184 lbs. Blue eyes, black hair. 
• Weather Wizard (2008): 6′ 1″, 184 lbs. Blue eyes, black hair. 
• Iris West: 5′ 6″, 130 lbs. Blue eyes, brown hair. 
• Iris Allen (2008): 5′ 6″, 130 lbs. Blue eyes, brown hair.
• XS: Brown eyes, black hair. No height/weight listed. 
• XS (2008): 5′ 6″, 135 lbs. Amber eyes, brown hair. 
• Zoom/Hunter: Brief mention in Eobard’s writeup. 
• Zoom/Hunter (2008): 6′ 1″, 181 lbs. Brown eyes, brown hair. 

Curiously absent from both books: Fallout, Peek-a-Boo, Rainbow Raider, and Blacksmith. 

Weirdest changes between books: 

1. Abra Kadabra lost 8 inches and 85 pounds, and he also apparently lost his hair. 
2. Captain Cold’s eyes changed color from brown to blue (though I actually prefer the idea that he has blue eyes). 
3. Jay’s original hair color went from brown to blonde somehow. 
4. Murmur’s hair went from gray to black (though him having black hair makes more sense based on most of the depictions of him). 
5. Eobard grew an inch and gained 16 pounds. 
6. Linda Park lost 17 pounds. 

Other observations: 

1. Heat Wave being only 5′ 11″ always seems weird to me. I’m not sure why, but I always picture him as being really tall—like, 6′ 4″ to 6′ 6″. 
2. Pied Piper being 5′ 10″ makes him taller than I picture him. For whatever reason, both he and James are really short in my mind. No idea why. 
   
3. There is no way that Axel is 5′ 7″ if Evan and Heat Wave are 5′ 11″. When he’s drawn next to them, he’s MUCH shorter than they are. I’d say he can’t be much over 5′ 3″.
4. Golden Glider is tiiiiiny. She weighs the least out of all the listed Flash characters listed and is shorter than everybody but Patty Spivot. Heck, she’s only two pounds heavier than Damian Wayne (who’s two inches shorter than she is.) 
5. Sam and Evan are within one inch and three pounds of each other. No wonder Evan fit into Sam’s costume! Also, both men have brown hair and brown eyes. 
6. I generally picture Mark/Marco with brown eyes, not blue eyes. (Using comic arc as a benchmark here is basically useless, since artists change characters’ eye colors all the time.) 
7. Even though Iris is usually drawn with brown hair and blue eyes, I almost always picture her with red hair and green eyes (I guess because Wally has red hair and green eyes?) 
8. It seems weird that the Top doesn’t have green eyes. 
9. Barry and Eobard are exactly the same height and weight (at least in the 2008 Encyclopedia). Odd, that. Although it does explain how Eobard fits perfectly into Barry’s old costume. 
10. Where did Owen get his red hair from? Both his parents are brunettes. 
11. DC Encyclopedia writers like Cobalt Blue much more than I do. 

Excellent work recapping all the stats, and thank you for letting us know what’s in the new book!  I’m frustrated that Roscoe’s relegated to the back of the book again, as he was in the last edition…but at least it’s better than being left out entirely, as he was in the New 52 edition (no surprise).  And it’s frustrating that people as major as Roy and Blacksmith aren’t there either.

-Okay, the Kadabra thing is weird, even if him losing his height is more in line with the way he’s drawn (he should be towering over virtually everyone).  He has lost his hair during some periods, so maybe that’s what the writer was thinking about.
-I’m sure Eobard will never stop lording his extra inch over literally everyone.

-I’ll never stop chuckling about Len complaining that he’s taller than Mick when he sees their diorama in the Flash Museum :>
-Yeah, Lisa is tiny and I guess that makes sense for a figure skater, at least if they do pairs skating…which she doesn’t, but eh.  She could.  Either way, Len and Roscoe should be absolutely towering over her, and they really don’t look that much bigger than her.
-inb4 Evan is retconned as a mirror duplicate of Sam.  I won’t suggest it to DC if you won’t.
-Iris isn’t biologically related to Wally unless that got retconned, so it isn’t a surprise they don’t look alike.
-Roscoe’s been shown with green eyes in a few issues, but that isn’t official.  I agree that he should have them though, it fits him better thematically.
-Red hair comes from mutations on a particular gene or two, and I think brunettes can still carry it – not certain how it all works, but I know that genetics is more complicated than what we were taught in high school.  I think it’s that a child of brunettes is unlikely to have red hair, but it’s not impossible.  Both my parents are brunettes and so am I, but my hair has natural red highlights which show up in the sun (and my parents lack that).  My DNA test says there’s only a 6% chance I’d have red hair based on my genotype, but that’s still more than zero, and Owen may have beaten those odds.
-I’m always here for Cobalt Blue snark!

“inb4 Evan is retconned as a mirror duplicate of Sam.  I won’t suggest it to DC if you won’t” 

Oh, man, that would be awful (and something I could totally see DC doing, sadly). Evan has a really interesting backstory, and it would be a pity if that, and his uniqueness in general, got retconned out to make him a duplicate of Sam. That definitely wouldn’t help with the way that the two of them have seemingly been blended together into one character since Flashpoint. 

Hopefully they won’t go that route if they ever do bring Evan back. (I would be very surprised if they brought him back at this point, but then again, they brought back James and Roscoe after over a decade and Eobard and Sam back after close to three, so maybe DC will surprise me after all.)