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Members of the Waffen-SS’s elite “Dschungel Kader” alongside Japanese occupation troops in the former French Indochina, 1960. Operating against the American-funded Viet Minh guerilla army, the Germans’ superior parachute tactics and combined-arms expertise soon ended the civil conflict and secured the Greatest East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere’s hold on the resource-rich nation.
One of my cousins is a German-born mischling who somehow got himself caught up with the Waffen-SS (this was after Himmler’s execution in ‘56, and the subsequent relaxations of the Nürnberg Laws). He’d shown such promise in training that they selected him for the Dschungel Kader (incidentally, a lot of German Jews and part-Jews ended up serving with the Kader) and he was part of the third contingent of German troops sent to Indochina. I have some of his letters, and if you don’t mind I’ll reproduce a passage:
“23. July, 1960. My dearest sister. We had a hard piece of work against us today. Encountered our first American advisers– leather-tough special troops [spezialtruppen is the word he used, which I assume refers to Army Special Forces] in very odd striped camouflage. They were weighted down with more equipment than I have seen in three months, grenades, knives, compasses, ammunition bandoliers, rucksacks and mines, anti-tank launchers. Our entire platoon could only kill three of the four in three hours of firefighting, and we lost six of ours. Our local assistants [exact trans.] had no trouble tracking the last; they are loaded heavily and move like beasts. Americans cannot fight in jungles properly, not at all.
[…] We did finally get our hands on the fabled new American automatic rifle, known as the M-16. It is a beautiful thing, light and easy to fire with practically no recoil. I would have taken one, but the ammunition is of a remarkably strange caliber, much different than our Kurz round. As it is, we sent them back for analysis…”
The letter goes on, but I feel that that’s enough. Anyway, just posting these online is enough to get HUAC down your throat. And my family’s connections to Germania have already gotten us investigated multiple times. The war rages on, I guess…
wait i am so confused, the Nazi scum had soldiers operating in Việt Nam all the way into the 1960s ?? or am i missing something ?
I’m with you ^^^ doesn’t sound right more like commando us or British with US funding south Vietnamese troops
I assure you that both I and the-alt-historian provide only the most accurate and well-researched alternative history posts.
Bullshit, this is Reich propaganda. First and foremost, American forces were horrifically rare in Indochina. The DeGaulle government, operating out of Neo-France, sent the majority of troops, while the Americans provided the logistics and equipment. The guys described in that post were probably Legionnaires recruited fresh from the Second Canadian Civil War or San Francisco Insurgency. They were damn good troops, but they were better suited to the rapid-deployment and mechanized warfare that Neo-French troops saw during the many battles of Quebec.
Secondly, Reich forces only took the Southern half of the country. The Viet Minh lost US funding after Fritz Kuhn was elected as president in 1964, and the U.S. devolved into its own civil war, but the north of the country remains a lawless wasteland to this day. I don’t know if half the country being the stomping ground of the Minh sounds like victory to you.
Propaganda? Dude, I’m sorry but I know my cousin and I know what he did. I’m sure you’re right about the Americans, I have literally thousands of letters and photos and the Americans show up precisely four times, and they stop showing up at all after fall of 1963. My cousin (Jakob R. Meier, look him up, he’s on the Iron Cross registry) fought against Legionnaires, who are referred to quite highly in his letters (he calls them “the worthiest of foes”, and compares them to Thermoplyae’s Spartans) , but I thought the letter referring to the Americans was more interesting, that’s all. Legionnaires were a penny a bushel compared to Americans.
Also, I know the Reich forces only took the South half of the country; didn’t stop the Oberkommando from declaring total victory. Jakob was quite bemused at that.
Literally I never disputed or even mentioned anything you bring up in that post. You sound like a Yankee spoilsport of the highest order.
Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:03:28
