somedeafgirlsblog:I am making this post for @friendless-safari with whom I am currently playing thro
I am making this post for @friendless-safari with whom I am currently playing through Pokemon RBY with. I figured I’d post it here in case anyone else was interested, since the only glitches I’ve found online are from Viridian Forest or Cerulean City. I’m sorry in advance for not paying closer attention to the first two trainers! Also, I am currently playing through Red, so the Pokemon the trainers have in the other games may be the same or slightly different.
Here’s a little added info for in case you’ve never done a Pokemon glitch before. You will need an Abra or some Pokemon that can use Teleport. An LDR trainer is a Long Distance Range trainer and refers to a trainer that sees you the moment they pop up on the edge of your screen. To activate the glitch, you must approach the LDR trainer, but the moment they pop up on the edge of your screen, you need to open your menu (requires impeccable timing and possibly multiple attempts) and use teleport. This way, they will have sighted you (you will see the exclamation point pop up over their head after you exit the menu), but you’ll have already teleported. Make sure Vermilion City Pokemon Center is the last Pokemon Center you have visited before attempting this glitch. After teleporting, continue following the instructions. Your menu may not work during this glitch - don’t worry about it. If you step in the grass and encounter a wild Pokemon, the glitch breaks and you’ll need to restart. When you decide which trainer you want to do the glitch with, it is important that you do not walk up beside them, but instead step into their line of sight and make them walk up to you. Continue following the instructions. When the menu opens by itself, close it and the Pokemon will appear. Ta-da! Feel free to message me if you have any questions.
DISCLAIMER: All glitch Pokemon are level 7 by default. When battling the trainer, every time you growl at the opponent’s Pokemon, the level of the Pokemon you’re attempting to glitch-encounter drops by 1. If you growl at it six times, it will be level 1 when you encounter it. However, the game is not programmed to handle a level 1 Pokemon. So if you catch it at level 1, and in its first battle it gains enough experience (56 points, I think) to hit level 2, something will short-circuit and you will end up with a level 100 Pokemon with an inevitably crappy moveset. You have been warned!
I don’t normally hop on to things that involve conversations between others but I can help a little bit here!
I’ve studied Pokemon glitches extensively (and don’t claim to be an expert, just a fan) and recently got all 151 Pokemon on my Pokemon Red with zero trading and I got very very familiar with the long-distance trainer glitch (also called “the trainer escape glitch”).
So um!
First,a link that helped me understand a little more about the glitch in general.
It goes into a little too much detail in parts, though, and the basics are covered up there ^ by the op. Just for extra reading if anyone is interested. :D
One thing I’d like to add, too, is that later in game (or via trading after defeating Surge) a Pokemon knowing Fly works a lot better than one with Teleport. Teleport shouldonly be used if Fly isn’t available.
Dig can also be used in caves the same way as Fly and Teleport, too! The long-distance trainer glitch works even underground! Obviously only compatible trainers work, but there are some to be found in Rock Tunnel and Victory road in case you accidentally battle and defeat the other trainers earlier in the game. Just a fun little note. :D
That said!
Some mistakes were made in the post above and I just want to point them out; glitches can get very frustrating if you think you know how they work but they proceed to not do the thing. So I can save you some trail and error by offering advice from my own miserable failures and hours of yelling at my poor 3ds.
This is about to get kind of long-winded too, so I apologize in advance. I was craving an in-depth explanation and answers when I first started to glitch the heck out of my Pokemon Red so that’s what I’m hoping to provide here.
1. The game isn’t programmed to handle level one Pokemon.
False! (Though this is also what I thought at first and it led me being very upset over a Staryu.)
The game is programmed to handle level one Pokemon. What it cannot handle is a level one Pokemon in the medium slow experience group. That’s a very important distinction. Catching a level one Staryu will not result in a level 100 Staryu, but catching a level one Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise can result in it jumping to level 100.
2. If you earn enough exp to get to level two (56 exp), the game boots the level one Pokemon to level 100.
Also false! Definitely false! Do not do the thing!
You have to earn less than enough to go up a level. If you earn 54 or more exp the Pokemon just goes to level two and then levels normally. AKA, that chance for an instant level 100 Pokemon is now gone. Considering how you need a trainer for the long distance trainer glitch and how few trainers are available in RBY, ‘using’ one up and having it go to waste is a very bad thing and not fun to discover after the fact. You have to earn less than 54 exp on a medium-slow growth rate Pokemon to get one at level 100. The warning about bad moves still holds true, however, as there is no move relearner in gen I.
If you have any trouble getting less than 54 exp (especially before it’s an easy matter to get back to route 1), just send out the level one Pokemon against anything to the west of Cerulean and then immediately switch to all five of your other party members before defeating it. The collective experience gained by each Pokemon should be less than twenty and having your level one Pokemon lead the battle means it won’t have to take any hits.
In regards to useless movesets, I’d also like to add that Pokemon that evolve via stones rarely learn anything via level up anyway. A quick check on Serebii’s gen I Pokedex will tell you if you’re concerned. Victreebel, for example, does learn a few moves while Arcanine and Poliwrath do not.
So if you’re going to glitch your way to an Arcanine and don’t care about being overpowered, might as well glitch to a level 100 one. Heck, Ember is deadly on a level 100 Arcanine.
Before I forget, I know a lot of people (including myself before I did some digging) think that a level 100 Pokemon can’t earn gen I’s equivalent of EVs and are therefore weaker than those that are hand-raised.
That’s also false! A level 100 Pokemon still earns EVs and the game still counts them up, it just doesn’t tally them up and implement them in the stat screen or in battle. If you pop the lil bugger into the PC and withdraw it, however, the game rights itself and the Pokemon gets all the stat increases it’s earned just like it had been leveled up the old-fashioned way. So glitched level 100 Pokemon can still be just as powerful as any non-glitched ones with a few visits to the box and around twenty elite four victories. :D
3. Encountering a wild Pokemon breaks the glitch during the period where your start menu is disabled.
No, surprisingly! Encountering a wild Pokemon does nothing to the glitch at this stage. I didn’t give it a second thought when I first walked through the glitch myself for a Mew, and running into a few wild Pokemon on my way to the dummy trainer did nothing. As long as your start menu is still not working, the glitch is still working just fine.
4. Your start menu may not work.
Your start menu 100% will not work. If you start menu is still functioning you did something wrong. The glitch only works because the game thinks you’re in a battle with the glitching trainer, at which point you would have no start menu and the only way to “end the battle” is to fight a different trainer. Only after you’ve defeated the dummy trainer will the game give you back your start menu.
5. The list of trainer yields up there.
This is a very very loaded issue that you may be aware of, but I just wanted to clear it up a little for anyone else reading this.
The is literally no limit to the Pokemon you can encounter with the long distance trainer glitch. Missingno.? Yep. Mewtwo? Catchable. 44HY? LM4? Charmander? Yes and yes.
The game chooses the Pokemon you encounter with this glitch by the special stat of the last Pokemon battled.
After battling the dummy trainer used in the glitch, encounter a wild Pokemon and then go back to trigger the glitched Pokemon encounter- you’ll run into a completely different Pokemon than if you had just battled the trainer. I discovered, curiously, about half the Spearows just west of Cerulean City spit out a Gengar by playing around with this. Some low-leveled Ekans did the same. I also caught an Exeggutor from the same area.
Gengar, I might add, is both trade-exclusive and in the medium-slow experience group, meaning a level 100 one is easily attainable as early as before beating Misty and visiting Bill in Red and Blue. It’s also compatible with a ton of TMs to fix his moveset, though I’d personally wait on the TM-training until after you’ve used Missingno to clone them for multiple use.
That said, later in the game via the Ditto glitch (which is essentially the same as the long distance trainer glitch; you just battle a wild Ditto after your start menu comes back and then trigger the encounter) you can literally manipulate the encountered Pokemon into anything. That includes glitch Pokemon or Pokemon that aren’t normally catchable in your version. Since Ditto copies the stats (including special) of the Pokemon it transforms into, you can choose a Pokemon with a special stat corresponding with a Pokemon’s hex number. That sounds complicated, but it’s basically a matter of “if an opponent ditto transforms into a Pokemon that has x as its special stat, the encountered Pokemon will become y.”
A list of special stats and the Pokemon you get for them can be found over here. It’s really super easy once you get the hang of looking out for certain special stats!
That page also goes into more detail about the Ditto glitch in general, too, if you want to read up in preparation! The downside of the glitch is having to wait until Fuchsia City/Cinnabar Island for wild Dittos, but it’s a blast once you notice your Pokedex filling up and you realize unlimited Missingno.s (and in turn master balls and rare candies) are within your grasp.
Especially seeing as Missingno. can’t be encountered in any other way in Yellow.
The Ditto trick is much easier in Red and Blue as Dittos can be found more easily; wild Dittos in Yellow are only found on the bottom floor of Cinnabar Mansion, which will then need to be escaped from via an escape rope after the Ditto is encountered.
But!! All of that said, just using the other trainers for their Pokemon yields is still super fun. Also worth noting is that by letting your Pokemon faint against an opponent’s Pokemon, you can vary the result a little. For instance, the Gambler mentioned with the Bellsprout and Oddish?
If you lose to his first Pokemon instead of fighting until his last, you’ll black and lose half your money but you’ll encounter a Growlithe instead of an Onix. This is again because his two Pokemon have different special stats, causing the game to throw different Pokemon. Losing in a battle against a trainer also does two things: first, it can yield a different Pokemon and second, it means you can battle the trainer again for the sake of further long distance trainer glitches or Ditto tricks. Losing doesn’t interfere with the glitch at all. :D
If you’d like, someone’s already mapped out all of the Pokemon trainer yields in the entire game, including what losing to their first, second, ect., Pokemon will result in. I think it’s only 100% accurate for Red and Blue, but I know a lot of trainers in Yellow share the same teams, so it’s probably decently accurate for it, as well.
This is the massive image.
When I say massive, I mean it’s literally the entire Kanto region, including the insides of buildings and caves, with additional Pokemon sprites and notes. It’s huge and may cause your computer to lag a bit but it’s got a ton of information.
Also, all the trainers shown with orange boxes around them are trainers than can be used for the long distance trainer glitch! It was super helpful to me when I was trying to fill my Pokedex. :D
It even remains helpful to me now as I try to get a complete gen I living dex up and going!
Trial and error with trainers can be something of its own reward, though, too, so feel free to ignore the image if you want to be surprised by the encounters. c:
Also don’t forget that encountering Missingno, even via these glitches, still adds 128 to the items in your 6th bag slot. So one rare candy still turns into 129, no Cinnabar Island needed! Useful for leveling up those level seven Pokemon, or even duplicating TMs for those useless moveset Pokemon.
So!
I think that’s all I wanted to add! :D
If I’ve said something wrong though, someone please feel free to correct me!
Also, good luck to the both of you on your RBY playthroughs- the old games are still ridiculously fun and the easier access to glitch information makes them even more so.
Happy glitching! :D
