#cyanide speaks

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Turning anon off for a while, because after yesterday and some conversations I’ve had with friends since I got that anon hate, I don’t have the patience to deal with people who either are so immature/cowardly they won’t put their name to their claims or people who just want to hate for the sake of hating. Don’t have the time for that shit here. You genuinely want to spread awareness about something to me, have the spine to own it.

neurodivergent-selfship:

ryanmoody:


Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth - USA Up All Night Promos featuring Gilbert Gottfried & Doug Bradley

Gilbert Gottfried (1955 - 2022)

@cyanide-latte@seeyouinyournightmares HAVE Y'ALL WITNESSED THIS YET, I’M DYING-

I’m torn between absolute delight at the chaotic nature of this clip and the unedited voice, and utter heartbreak about Mr. Gottfried. ; ;

spookyscaryslashy:

slutforguts:

cookerthecrafter:

cognitty:

baka-daa:

multifandomgimmedatrn:

vileandvenom:

Tagged by @shunukitrash to list my current 5 favorite songs! Thank you ❤❤

1. [The System Of] Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether- The Alan Parsons Project
2. Step By Step- The Alan Parsons Project
3. Games People Play- The Alan Parsons Project
4. Sirius/Eye In The Sky- The Alan Parsons Project
5. Old And Wise- The Alan Parsons Project

tagging:@theimpossiblescheme@sethsevolution@appalachian@gimmedatrn@seasidefanasties@aaronpullinteeth

1. Santana- Maria Maria ft. The Product G&B

2. Flo Milli- Up In The Party

3. Nine Inch Nails- Sanctified

4. Hozier- Movement

5. Tender- Afternoon

Special shout outs

Aaliyah- Try Again

Joji - Run (a friend of mine played this song around me and I was OBSESSED)

Jacob Banks- Chain-smoking Your Love

Ciara- 1, 2 Step ft. Missy Elliott

Tagging:@takottai@romeoandromeo@teaologyzzz@krismas0arson@baka-daa@brayxkun@olivuoil@deadhead404@something-something-the-big-gay@buckyshusband0@redheadjustin

oof, this is hard.. lemme tell you that this is not at all in order

1. Monika LIU - sentimentai

2. Sonntag - frog and toad

3. Jimmy Urine - fighting with the melody

4. Depeche mode - should be higher

5. Villagers of ionannina city - nova

tagging:@milfho,@cognitty

easy!!

tagging : @x-littlemoth@immortal-velociraptor@cookerthecrafter

Thanks for the Tag @cognitty!!!

  1. Ride by Twenty One Pilots
  2. Migraine by Twenty One Pilots
  3. What’s Inside a Girl by The Cramps
  4. Ribcage by Andy Black
  5. Rhiannon by Fleetwood Mac

@frenziedslashers@ajokeformur-ray@moon-of-desire@bubbastit@slutforguts@brandnewhuman.@ashyslashers

No pressure, if you want to great! If not, great!

Thanks for tagging me @cookerthecrafter!

1. The Foundations of Decay - My Chemical Romance

2. R U Mine? - Arctic Monkeys

3. The Family Madrigal - Encanto

4. Risqué - Cute Is What We Aim For

5. SAD! - xxxtentacion

I tag @spookyscaryslashy@elbowmacaronis@wanderbreadsworld and anyone else who wants to do it!!!

I got tagged by @slutforgutstsand@x-littlemoth thank you both! In no particular order

  1. Air Catcher - Twenty One Pilots
  2. The Foundations of Decay - My Chemical Romance
  3. Dead Walk - RedHook
  4. Frankenstein - Stitched Up Heart
  5. Ghost Love Score - Nightwish

Tumblr is not cooperating with tagging people but I’ll do my best:

@ace-of-hearts-and-spades@cyanide-latte@myers-meadow@spookykittyboo and anyone else who wants to!

Oooh! My current top 5 are

  1. Blinding Lights by The Weeknd
  2. Pain by Three Days Grace
  3. Sleepwalking Past Hope by H.I.M.
  4. Wish I Had An Angel by Nightwish
  5. True Disaster by Tove Lo

And I think I’ll tag @changeling-selfship@thelivemouse@my-horror-slasher-ocs@your-mxnd-is-mxneand@abagoforeos (with the usual disclaimer you don’t have to do this, just wanted you to know I was thinking of you!)

spookyscaryslashy:

cyanide-latte:

Interest has been shown and the thought won’t leave my brain so I’m putting this on the table for discussion.

First let me be transparent: if allowed I will talk for ages about how people aren’t taught critical thinking and media analysis and if they are that they aren’t applying those tools where it counts. It’s something I see so frequently and I’ll get so driven up the wall about and I’ll lament for ages the way that educational systems have failed to teach these tools or how little push there actually is on a widespread scale to learn and implement them.

But over the last 24 hours with instances on several fronts and in several fandoms, an additional thought has repeatedly been popping up that I think needs to coexist with this discussion.

And that is that there is a human being behind every take you disagree with.

It’s easy to focus on the frustration and the issue and wanting to push for ways to improve the situation to the point I think sometimes it’s easy to forget the individual people.

While I don’t intend to point fingers to any one example (because again, I’ve been seeing this sort of issue in multiple fandom spaces on multiple platforms over the past day,) I feel like it’s still something to bring up. Just hear me out on this. Fandom isn’t necessarily a space where the intent is to always analyze and think critically about what we consume, but utilizing those tools can provide a more enriching experience with the source material, open up new discussions with other fans, and allow for a greater understanding of the source material and its creators and its impact(s).

But just as much as that, fandom isn’t necessarily intended for that level of engagement, at least not as a mandatory requirement. Many fans don’t consume a thing they enjoy for the sake of deeper thought and analysis, and this means that many times their opinions, headcanons, elements they enjoy, and understanding of the source material is going to differ drastically from that of a person who does those deeper dives.

And that’s fine.*

There is a caveat there and I’ll get to it, but I really would like to see this point as the main one for consideration in this discussion. Not everyone consumes movies, shows, books, podcasts, games, etc. with an automatic need or desire to analyze the media on a deeper level. Heck, even people who DO have that tendency are going to encounter things that they just engage with on a level of trying to simply enjoy it.

And that’s okay. Not everyone has had the opportunity to learn those things. Not everyone wants to always dissect everything they engage with, and trying to do that anyway is exhausting. (And if you’re trying to do that with the intent of seeking media purity, it’s doubly exhausting because you’re chasing something that cannot exist, and I would like to suggest that you reevaluate this because it WILL rob you of your ability to enjoy ANYTHING.)

And I think it’s important to remember that when we hit that point. That there’s another person. That no matter how much it may cause us frustration when we encounter people who show signs of not knowing or understanding the same things we do about something we’ve taken the time to really break down and understand, there’s still another person and we don’t know the circumstances behind why their experience is different nor are we entitled to know. I mean, YEAH, it’s frustrating when prevailing ideas about the source material within a fandom become commonplace and are either blatantly wrong/ignorant or don’t show enough analysis. But I feel like we also need to remember to be mindful of individual people even when expressing our frustrations and dislikes of ideas or attitudes that lack understanding.

Now. Here’s that *caveat.

When someone’s lack of understanding, lack of thinking, lack of being willing to go beyond the surface and understand the impacts of themes and ideas in media, lead to that someone causing harm to themselves and others, then there is a greater issue that I think should be addressed.

I’m not talking about “this person has a headcanon about this character that is ignorant of character history and I don’t like it so I’m going to get on their case about it”. I’m talking about, someone isn’t taking the time to listen and think about and do some sleuthing on any media that they’re engaging with that has real life negative consequences and impacts on other people, and they’re unlikely to stop and reevaluate their engagement and behavior unless someone who does have a better understanding of those issues says something. Additionally, do they have individual opinions of their own in their lack of understanding that they’re causing harm with, whether intentionally or unintentionally? Because I see that happen too, where something gets misconstrued or misunderstood in a harmful way and the person with that misunderstanding can go on to harm others with it.

For many, a positive change can be made by asking the question(s) “are you aware that this thing contains harmful ideas that have real-world impacts?” “Are you aware that your engagement with this material supports a creator(s) who is weaponizing their platform?” “These harmful opinions and thought processes are baked into the source of the media you’re consuming and they have real life impacts; have you been taking the time to see if it is also working its way into your opinions and treatment of others?”

When those questions get asked, it can lead to changes that are positive or it can lead to an understanding that that individual may willfully choose not to reevaluate how they may be causing harm because they won’t let go of whatever caused those harmful ideas to take root in them. And that is a different discussion entirely, but it’s important to remember that this is a caveat to consider.

But ultimately, TL;DR— I think the complaint of “none of these people are using critical thinking or analyzing media is frustrating and it needs to change” can and does need to begin coexisting with the idea “an individual person may not know how or choose to engage critically with the media they consume some or all of the time and that’s okay and I can respect and consider them even if I disagree with their takes on it.”

Someone’s always gonna have a different opinion and you can’t FORCE anyone to have the same take as you. They have a different background and different life experiences shaping the way they relate to these characters. Someone shipping a pairing you don’t like or thinks some character didn’t deserve their redemption arc are not worth picking fights over because those are harmless. Save your breath for conversations that matter. Save your breath for helping someone understand the implications and real-world consequences of irresponsible media creation. Or to help people understand what responsibly-created media is trying to open them to, the worldviews they hadn’t considered before and the issues they didn’t realize were not just fiction.

I’d also like to add a point for the people who do think critically about the content they consume and engage with their favorite stories this way, that you’re allowed to have fun, and that interacting with others—including the people you’re trying to educate—should be because you love the material itself. When someone is clearly passionate about something it makes people willing to listen (as opposed to someone coming at them with negative or even aggressive energy). Give people the benefit of the doubt that they’re not being willfully malicious. Pairing your love with something while acknowledging it’s flaws just makes your delivery more accessible.

If you’re trying to get someone to understand a book/movie/show/etc that you don’t like because of how dangerously flawed it is, you need to be passionate about the cause you’re advocating for. I aggressively abhor movies like Split that vilify DID and I tell people not to watch it. I myself do not have DID but I do have one of the other scary/evil/ugly mental illnesses, and what harms one of us harms all of us. It’s important to me that we challenge toxic representation of debilitating mental illness, and people listen to me when I talk about this because I approach them with the assumption that they barely understand what DID is or why movies like this have real-world consequences.

YES, OH MY GOD THANK YOU SPOOKY, YOU GET IT

An IRL friend I usually have these discussions with also wanted me to throw out there that there’s a level of weaponized incompetence and willful ignorance that does occur within fandom and is its own problem, and that that can often jade people who care about engaging in critical thinking and analysis to the notion that we need to be mindful about the other person we choose to speak with.

And I think they’re absolutely right, and that is most certainly an issue as well; but between their suggestion that there needs to be more gentle encouragement for the parties in a discussion in a fandom to be up front about their level of understanding (ex: two people may love Teen Titans but one may only have watched the 2003 cartoon while the other may have watched the cartoon and also read comics and articles and history wikis and videos on it) and especially your reminder that the more passionate and excited and willing to share that a fan is with someone who may not be as critically engaged can open doors and grab people’s attention…? I think that can play such a huge hugedifference in helping to open people up to the idea of further discussion and thought, especially if they can be shown that that canbe a rewarding way of engaging with the media!

Of course, there’s always going to be people who don’t want to or won’t put in that same level of effort with the same piece of media you may have in common, and that’s okay too. I won’t say that sometimes it might not be disappointing, but I think it’s okay if now and then someone has a boundary of “i just want to enjoy this and not think too hard about it”. Everything I’ve seen lately has been a good reminder that it’s okay for people to set that boundary sometimes, and it’s good for others to respect that. (Again, the previous caveat I brought up still applies, but you get my drift. As you said, give people the benefit of the doubt that they’re not being willfully malicious)

And please remember everyone, as Spooky said, critical thinking and deeper analysis of the media you engage with doesn’t mean tearing it down and finding everything wrong with it. Let it be something enriching and fulfilling because you love it. It really does have the power to change minds and open doors for discussion better than outright attacking someone or giving them the third degree for something they may not know.

Interest has been shown and the thought won’t leave my brain so I’m putting this on the table for discussion.

First let me be transparent: if allowed I will talk for ages about how people aren’t taught critical thinking and media analysis and if they are that they aren’t applying those tools where it counts. It’s something I see so frequently and I’ll get so driven up the wall about and I’ll lament for ages the way that educational systems have failed to teach these tools or how little push there actually is on a widespread scale to learn and implement them.

But over the last 24 hours with instances on several fronts and in several fandoms, an additional thought has repeatedly been popping up that I think needs to coexist with this discussion.

And that is that there is a human being behind every take you disagree with.

It’s easy to focus on the frustration and the issue and wanting to push for ways to improve the situation to the point I think sometimes it’s easy to forget the individual people.

While I don’t intend to point fingers to any one example (because again, I’ve been seeing this sort of issue in multiple fandom spaces on multiple platforms over the past day,) I feel like it’s still something to bring up. Just hear me out on this. Fandom isn’t necessarily a space where the intent is to always analyze and think critically about what we consume, but utilizing those tools can provide a more enriching experience with the source material, open up new discussions with other fans, and allow for a greater understanding of the source material and its creators and its impact(s).

But just as much as that, fandom isn’t necessarily intended for that level of engagement, at least not as a mandatory requirement. Many fans don’t consume a thing they enjoy for the sake of deeper thought and analysis, and this means that many times their opinions, headcanons, elements they enjoy, and understanding of the source material is going to differ drastically from that of a person who does those deeper dives.

And that’s fine.*

There is a caveat there and I’ll get to it, but I really would like to see this point as the main one for consideration in this discussion. Not everyone consumes movies, shows, books, podcasts, games, etc. with an automatic need or desire to analyze the media on a deeper level. Heck, even people who DO have that tendency are going to encounter things that they just engage with on a level of trying to simply enjoy it.

And that’s okay. Not everyone has had the opportunity to learn those things. Not everyone wants to always dissect everything they engage with, and trying to do that anyway is exhausting. (And if you’re trying to do that with the intent of seeking media purity, it’s doubly exhausting because you’re chasing something that cannot exist, and I would like to suggest that you reevaluate this because it WILL rob you of your ability to enjoy ANYTHING.)

And I think it’s important to remember that when we hit that point. That there’s another person. That no matter how much it may cause us frustration when we encounter people who show signs of not knowing or understanding the same things we do about something we’ve taken the time to really break down and understand, there’s still another person and we don’t know the circumstances behind why their experience is different nor are we entitled to know. I mean, YEAH, it’s frustrating when prevailing ideas about the source material within a fandom become commonplace and are either blatantly wrong/ignorant or don’t show enough analysis. But I feel like we also need to remember to be mindful of individual people even when expressing our frustrations and dislikes of ideas or attitudes that lack understanding.

Now. Here’s that *caveat.

When someone’s lack of understanding, lack of thinking, lack of being willing to go beyond the surface and understand the impacts of themes and ideas in media, lead to that someone causing harm to themselves and others, then there is a greater issue that I think should be addressed.

I’m not talking about “this person has a headcanon about this character that is ignorant of character history and I don’t like it so I’m going to get on their case about it”. I’m talking about, someone isn’t taking the time to listen and think about and do some sleuthing on any media that they’re engaging with that has real life negative consequences and impacts on other people, and they’re unlikely to stop and reevaluate their engagement and behavior unless someone who does have a better understanding of those issues says something. Additionally, do they have individual opinions of their own in their lack of understanding that they’re causing harm with, whether intentionally or unintentionally? Because I see that happen too, where something gets misconstrued or misunderstood in a harmful way and the person with that misunderstanding can go on to harm others with it.

For many, a positive change can be made by asking the question(s) “are you aware that this thing contains harmful ideas that have real-world impacts?” “Are you aware that your engagement with this material supports a creator(s) who is weaponizing their platform?” “These harmful opinions and thought processes are baked into the source of the media you’re consuming and they have real life impacts; have you been taking the time to see if it is also working its way into your opinions and treatment of others?”

When those questions get asked, it can lead to changes that are positive or it can lead to an understanding that that individual may willfully choose not to reevaluate how they may be causing harm because they won’t let go of whatever caused those harmful ideas to take root in them. And that is a different discussion entirely, but it’s important to remember that this is a caveat to consider.

But ultimately, TL;DR— I think the complaint of “none of these people are using critical thinking or analyzing media is frustrating and it needs to change” can and does need to begin coexisting with the idea “an individual person may not know how or choose to engage critically with the media they consume some or all of the time and that’s okay and I can respect and consider them even if I disagree with their takes on it.”

got some thoughts munching on my brain about the way we all talk about critical thinking and media analysis and I may need to vomit it out later

Some Firestarter 2022 thoughts, now that I’ve had a chance to sleep on it. These will be largely positive points, I’ve not had many things crop up yet about the movie that bother me.

⚠️ ❗❗ SPOILERS BELOW ❗❗⚠️

  • Compared to the book and the original ‘84 movie adaptation, this movie is like a modernized version but on speedrun
  • The '84 movie is closer to the book in terms of following the plot structure and points, this film deviates quite a bit from that, mashing a few things together where convenient, removing some points entirely and condensing Charlie’s power development down to a “training montage”, but the heart of the story is still present in this adaptation
  • That being said I think this movie handled the portrayal of the various powers far better
  • I have issues with the modernization and that’s probably my biggest complaint since the original book and the MKULTRA experiments are contextually crucial to the original time period
  • Might have worked if Vicky and Andy were portrayed older but they were like in their mid-30s so it doesn’t really work
  • Kind of wish we’d gotten more of an explanation there or something because even saying that it was an attempt at reviving the MKULTRA projects would have been SOMETHING
  • The decision to make Cap Hollister a woman was an interesting one and I think, given how crunched for time the story got in its allotted hour and a half, it did make it smoother or more believable for the character’s beliefs, motivations and attempts to connect with Charlie
  • Zefron did well as Andy McGee, I really enjoyed seeing him in the role
  • Was a little bothered and heartbroken to see Andy use the push on Charlie, but I figured that was going to be inevitable after the second time the character stated he’d never choose to use the push on his kid
  • Would have liked to see more of the echo and ricochet effects of the push, especially since Andy mentioned that he has no idea how much his powers might fuck up someone else’s brain, but meh
  • While I feel like we missed out on seeing the uniqueness of Andy and Vicky’s relationship, I do enjoy seeing Vicky actually get impactful and significant screentime, as well as seeing her actually use her TK in self-defense
  • A cat dies, and you can tell from the build-up that it’s going to happen but it still wasn’t great to see
  • On that note, there’s a fair amount of grisly wounds we see in this movie, including the kid from the Lot Six experiments who gored out his own eyes
  • Not sure what was going on with the characters who were supposed to be versions of the Manders and idk how I feel about that
  • This version of Charlie is somewhat older, far darker and angrier compared to the book and OG film, but it fits with the rest of the movie and leans more into Dr. Wanless’s suppositions of how Charlie is becoming a young woman and thusly, her powers are growing into something even more fearsome
  • There’s implications that both Vicky and Andy had some psychic experiences prior to being tested on with Lot Six, suggesting Andy has always had some low-level precognition and clairvoyance
  • This movie showcases not just Charlie’s pyrokinesis but also her TK, low-level TP, clairvoyance, and warning precognition
  • It also has her inherit the push from Andy, which seems a bit odd, but I can dig it
  • A good chunk of the rising action showcases Charlie on her own, setting out to infiltrate the Shop(?) and save her dad, and while there’s an argument that this breaks suspension of disbelief, I feel like it’s not a bad way of showcasing just how drastically everyone continues to underestimate Charlie
  • John and Cody Carpenter were both involved in the music for the movie, which was super cool (especially when you consider John was originally tapped to direct the '84 movie but ultimately didn’t due to circumstances,) and a lot of the scoring feels close to that for Halloween 2018 without being too interchangeable

And now this brings me to the biggest, most vital change this movie did to the story

… *inhales*

JOHN RAINBIRD

  • I’ve always been highly uncomfortable with the way this character was handled in the '84 movie and especially in the book
  • The way Rainbird is handled in this movie is drastically different to both and I actually prefer this version of the character, hands-down, no contest
  • Michael Greyeyes was perfect for the role
  • Rainbird is a very sympathetic character in this film and it’s made clear the Shop used and abused him in the past and this time is no different
  • The most fascinating change I wish we could have seen more of is the fact he mentions to Vicky that there were “lab rats” that the Lot Six compound was tested on prior to the college co-eds, like they had both control and variable groups to test
  • The mentions of people being tested against their will is hefty enough but there is a subtextual suggestion in the way he talks about it to imply that missing indigenous people were used as those “lab rats” and that hit like a fucking gut punch
  • It really doubles down on the fact of the Shop using and abusing Rainbird, as well as the organization’s corruption and Dr. Wanless’s regret and self-loathing over everything to do with the Lot Six experiments
  • Rainbird appears to be telepathic, and perhaps an incredibly powerful one at that? I really like this concept and the way it plays into his character’s complexity in regards to his feelings towards the Shop, the McGees and especially his interactions with Charlie
  • The climatic moment of the film where he offers himself in quiet surrender to a rampaging Charlie and she chooses to spare him was easily one of my favorite moments
  • And the silent sort of understanding and communication that passes between them in that moment and the final scene as he picks up an exhausted Charlie and carries her away from the devastation she’s wrought honestly works so much better for the fact that it IS silent. Nothing else is needed. I love that~

All in all, I was excited for this movie but somehow kept my expectations low enough that I wound up enjoying it immensely. Again, it’s wildly different in many ways to the book and to the '84 adaptation, but I think it really does keep a lot of the core of the story there and for the most part I either enjoyed or didn’t mind the changes. Wish I could have seen it in theaters for the opening weekend but this was a long work weekend, so I watched it with the spouse last night after work via Peacock. I do highly recommend giving it a chance.

death-cannot-kill-you:

thanks!!!!!

Last song: I think you can all guess, but Foundations of Decay by My Chemical Romance

Last movie: Hocus Pocus

Currenty reading: After the Fire by Will Hill

I’m not tagging 9 people because that’s scary so @wolfie979@imawake-butatwhatcost@neurodivergent-nesamone

Cut the post bc it was getting long but thank you @hyper-revenge-sio for the tag~

Last song:Hellraiser III: Hell On Earth opening titles overture

Last movie:Firestarter(2022)I just finished watching this I am not okay I need to lie down and scream silently

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Reminder you’re never obligated to do these tags, I was just thinking of you. @changeling-selfship@thelivemouse@my-horror-slasher-ocs@susan-snail@abagoforeos@murderousxcoffee

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