#dream smp tommyinnit

my scrunkly has become a test subject

he stands in a field. yet no flowers bloom, because they died with the boy that grew them.

Welcome to a bored analysis of C!Wilbur Soot, c!Tommy, the “afterlife” and c!Wilbur cares for c!Tommy or not.

[Note]if I forgot an important detail I apologize, I still need to catch up on recent streams, also this contains a few small theories I have regarding the “afterlife”

Alright so…Wilbur Soot.

When I first saw his revival I honestly was surprised with the way he went about it, but after hearing about his version of his afterlife with the whole train station thing it made sense.

He never really found peace after dying in L’manberg’s second death. Hence why Ghostbur was even a thing in the first place. And I don’t know about you but almost 13 years of isolation with not much company, it could do a lot to a person.

And then we have Tommy danger-Kraken Innit.

The kid who’s been dragged through hell and back kicking and screaming. Who has basically nothing to his name but still fought for so many people, places, and things for far longer than anyone should have.

And what was his personal purgatory?

A void of pure nothingness, he hears things, but he sees nothing but a pitch black abyss.

Now, I believe that the Wilbur in Tommy’s purgatory is still the same Wilbur who was revived. But it’s just that they both saw two different perspectives, but since we don’t exactly know what went on between them I can only assume that they both were under the impression that they thought the other was seeing what they were seeing.

Now I kind of did a little research on dream meanings for this

(And yes I’m well aware of the fact that dreams aren’t the same as Death but just bear with me here)

For Wilbur I researched about train stations and waiting.

Train stations: “…A train station represents a transitional period in your life. You need to take a short break to reassess your situation and determine your path and goals.”

Waiting: “To dream you are waiting is indicative of issues of power/control and feelings of dependence/independence”

Now Wilbur defiantly has some issues to go through about Power and control, and I would say he does have some clear signs of dependence when it comes to characters such as Tommy.

Now for Tommy I researched the void/abyss

The void: “If feared: fear of losing control, loss of identity, fear of failure, meeting those dark fears or worries, we hide in our depths; lack of confidence, we fear death in some form and are afraid of the hugeness of the unconscious”

Tommy was very afraid of the void from when we saw him in purgatory for the first time, and when he was revived you were able to see the fears that were mentioned

Fear of losing control: I’m pretty confident in saying that c!Tommy is one who gets manipulated the most, and at times even being the scapegoat for conflicts.

It feels as though Tommy’s losing power over himself because he’s either being manipulated into doing something that doesn’t really benefit him. Or blamed for a conflict that he was only really apart of and not really starting it only joining in when things get rough.

fear of failure: This mostly pertains a lot with Wilbur, he’s afraid of disappointing one of the few people he still believes in, when Wilbur used the whole “Family dynamic” against Tommy because Tommy didn’t want to get him stone Tommy immediately went on the defensive and in the end just agreed to get the stone.

Worries and lack of confidence: this kind of goes back to the “fear of losing power over himself” Tommy has to worry about his life on a daily basis because he doesn’t want to go through any of the trauma’s he’s been through over again.

Another this bit about what the void could possibly mean is that it’s says that even though Tommy has fought so many wars he doesn’t have anything to show for it other than trauma and the lack of closure he tried to achieve but ended up dying instead.

My theory with the purgatory is that it customizes its self based on the person and what they have failed to accomplish (or what they have yet to accomplish revved duo’s case)

For Wilbur it’s the fact he never thought about the consequences of his actions and struggle to Reevaluate his issues with power and control and his dependent nature on other people.

For Tommy it’s around the fact he never got the closure and had to spend time with his unresolved traumas and issues.

And because of this fact they can’t move on to the afterlife because of what they went through and neither not having the true closure they needed they can’t truly find peace.

Now that I got my purgatory rant out of the way, this being up the next part of this rant…

Does c!Wilbur care about c!Tommy?

I’m under the belief that he does,

but because of the the fact Wilbur’s been doing nothing but thinking about the things he’s done and seeing Tommy accomplish his goals at the end of the disc war.

He feels as though Tommy doesn’t care about Wilbur anymore or at the very least doesn’t need him anymore.

Now I’m not excusing the fact that Wilbur is still manipulating Tommy and it’s still fucked up.

But if you saw a lot of the recent streams between c!Wilbur and c!Tommy, It’s pretty obvious in the way he talks with Ranboo, how he doesn’t want Tommy to join las Nevadas without him, how he seems to fall back into his Pogtopia tactics to keep Tommy by his side.

And Tommy and Wilbur’s interaction in purgatory did not help with Wilbur’s thought process, since Tommy seemed to very much not want to be there with Wilbur while Wilbur seemed to be a bit of the opposite with the cards and “playful” banter.

He feels as though he needs to use his manipulative tactics otherwise Tommy would leave him.

what’s really funny/irritating to me about this situation is that this is literally the opposite of the actual case.

Tommy literally talked with Foolish saying:

“But what this is, it’s gonna be about- not giving him a second chance, isn’t giving him a third chance, it’s not about chances! … it’s about making sure you don’t give up on the people you careabout.”

Tommy does care about Wilbur, and the fact that Wilbur can’t see that due to the years of isolation and unresolved traumas and issues he has, he can’t fully comprehend that “hey maybe I don’t have to manipulate the gremlin child into staying”

And why does Tommy stay with Wilbur?

Well besides his talk with Foolish, I think it goes back to the lack in confidence, Tommy has been manipulated and used as a scapegoat so much he’s basically accepted the fact people’s opinion of him will ever change. So he probably thinks that if he tried talking to Wilbur about it it’s very likely he wouldn’t believe it at all. (Kind of like how it was in Pogtopia with Wilbur doubting Tommy’s loyalty and input) So Tommy’s stuck in this loop of just taking it and just going with what Wilbur says. 

Summary:

While Wilbur does indeed care for Tommy but it’s still unhealthy with how  Tommy feels as though he needs to follow Wilbur in order to show he cares.

To end off if anyone needs clarification on any part of this analysis brain-dump, or have a theory about the opposite side feel free to comment on it or send a DM, I like formulating ideas and theories.

Tommy n Shroud ❤️