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Is Reiner’s promise to Ymir still relevant?

(This is an update on my oldpost)

In the recent 137 chapter Reiner almost died again being surrounded by titans. Ancient titan shifters came to help - one of them was Freckles Ymir who saved his life. Reiner was obviously surprised as you can see above.

Now I’m aware I might be delulu, but I think this is the perfect opportunity to address the promise again after being saved by Ymir.

Now some people wonder: What promise am I talking about?! So here’s a little trip down memory lane…


Reiner’s mission has always been to get back the Founder in order to avoid the rumbling. However, the consequences of this mission was that Paradis would be doomed. And that means Historia would be in danger either. Because not only Marley, but the whole world hates Paradis. Without the Founder Paradis loses its protection. Reiner, Bertholdt and Ymir were aware of that when they kidnapped Eren in season 2. That’s why Reiner and Ymir wanted to take Historia with them - she’d been safer with them than being alone in Paradis without the protection of the Founder.

So we record: Reiner’s mission to retrieve the Founder has always the consequence to jeopardise Paradis and Historia. Because without the protection of the Founder the other nations can attack and exploit them forever. They fear and hate Paradis. Udo once said that Marley treats Eldians good in comparison to other nations:



Anyway, back to topic: Ymir knew Historia would be in danger if Reiner’s mission was a success, that’s why Reiner gave Ymir the promise to protect Historia regardless.

However, Reiner failed his mission in season 2. Eren managed to escape with the help of the scouts. When Eren controlled Dina Reiner, Bertholdt and Ymir felt the coordinate and realised their theory was right about Eren being the founder. Then, Ymir commented Historia was safe for now with Eren (the Coordinate) staying on the island.

However, in rts the promise became relevant again when Reiner, Bertholdt, Zeke and Pieck tried to retrieve the Founder once more. Because if they would have been successful to kidnap Eren, Paradis and Historia would be in danger again. Before the fight started Reiner reminded Bertholdt of the promise he had given:


At this point I want to make clear that Reiner was even determined to fulfill his promise in warrior mode. In the end Ymir sacrificed her life, so he better be determined to fulfill it.

But the fact it has been brought up again means that Reiner took it seriously.

Now many years have passed and the promise wasn’t brought up again. Because there simply wasn’t the opportunity to address it since they weren’t close to retrieve the Founder again.

The closest we got was when Marley invaded Paradis right before the rumbling. But they failed yet again.

And now, right NOW after 137, there is the next and probably the last opportunity the promise could have relevance. Why?

After Zeke’s death the rumbling stopped. Jean blew up Eren’s titan’s head. I guess Eren is pretty much done and will die next chapter (I believe in Reiner Helos theory btw).

But the rumbling being stopped and Eren being dead would have the consequence that Paradis is in danger again. Eren genocided a lot people, but not the whole world population. There are still many people left who could harm Paradis. Unless they’d be like: “Ok, never mind, we’re good now”, but I could imagine they now hate Paradis more than ever. As a consequence, Historia would be in danger again either.

And here’s where Reiner’s promise is relevant again. It was nice Ymir saved Reiner last chapter and I hope it reminded him of it again. And it’s nice to see Ymir doesn’t support genocide either and I wouldn’t have expected otherwise from her. Because even if it harms Historia’s safety genocide is just insane.

I wonder what Ymir would have told Reiner in 137 if she was able to talk to him.

Now imagine Reiner kills Eren next chapter and through that titan powers cease to exist. Don’t know if that’s possible, just a thought. Titan powers are the reason everyone fears Paradis. What I wonder though is if the world still hates Paradis if titan powers are destroyed. I couldn’t blame them at least after Eren almost genocided the whole world lol.

With two chapters left I’m afraid not everything will be concluded, but let’s see what Isayama has planned.

But either way, Reiner’s whole arc has always been about becoming a saviour.

OK, you know what, I just created my ReiHisu/ReiKuri discord server anyways, I don’t care if there will be barely anyone.

Here’s the invite link if anyone would like to come to ship Reiner and Historia in peace and to connect with fellow ReiHisu fans.

https://discord.gg/pjGHRKNrYe

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