#is he just going to straight up introduce himself as sauron

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mag-lore:

I recently posted about Amazon not having the rights to call Celebrimbor Tyelpë in Rings of Power, and I started thinking about what else the fandom takes for granted about the Second Age, but Amazon can’t touch. I essentially just took my existing SA knowledge and looked through LotR to see what I could find. You’ll notice that most of this is elven related, as most of my knowledge is about them. Please add anymore you can think of!

(note- I don’t know how ip rights work, I’m just going off my belief that if it’s not stated in LotR or The Hobbit, but it is mentioned elsewhere, Amazon can’t use it. Please correct me if this is wrong, that’s just my understanding of it!)

Things about the Second Age and related characters that is not explicitly stated in LotR-

- Gil-galad son of… Anyone. LotR doesn’t say anything about his father. Fingon is mentioned in the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, Orodreth is in Peoples of ME, and the others (Finrod, Fëanorian) are in other HoME. So Amazon can’t take a stance on that issue

- Sauron is not called Annatar anywhere in LotR. So … I don’t really know what the hell they’re going to do with that. It is said that he seduced the instructs the elves, but he’s not called Annatar.

- Finarfin is refered to as Finarphir, not really that big of a change, but Galadriel can’t be called the daughter of Finarfin, instead she is “of the royal house of Finarphir”

- Finrod gets like three mentions overall? We’re told he’s Galadriel’s brother, he was King of Nargothrond, he saved Beren’s life, and he’s somehow related to Gildor. Tolkien clearly thought of Finrod as being in Finarfin’s place while writing LotR, as there are a couple mentions of the golden house of Finrod being the only Noldor with blonde hair. That’s it. That’s all the details we get.

- On a similar note, Galadriel’s other brothers are not mentioned. So if the rumors are true and this “Adar” character is her brother, he’s either Finrod or an oc

- Celebrimbor is refered to as a descent of Fëanor, Curufin is not named. This doesn’t like affect the current timeline, but it would affect any backstory/flashback they plan to add.

- The Elessar stories are all in Unfinished Tales. The version with Celebrimbor and Galadriel could have a great place in a show set in the Second Age. They’re both given dialogue and characterization. Celebrimbor making the Elessar could have been a great plot line, but no. That’s not in LotR so it can’t be used.

- Sauron’s amazing dialogue given to Ar-Pharazon while attempting to seduce him is all in the Silm. In my opinion that is some of the best dialogue Tolkien wrote and could have been amazing to hear on screen. But alas

- I know there were rumors that the first episode would feature the First Age and the crossing of the Helcaraxë, but… In my findings, the Helcaraxë isn’t talked about in LotR, at all. I couldn’t find a single mention to it. The First Age info isn’t really any better, we’re mainly told that Morgoth was defeated and Thangorodrim was broken. There are mentions of other things in the First Age, but not enough for a story.

- Important First Age characters that could play a role in Galadriel/Elrond/Celebrimbor/Gil-galad flashbacks but cannot appear because they are not named in LotR- Fingolfin, Fingon, Aegnor, Andreth, Angrod, Orodreth, Turgon, Elenwë, all the sons of Fëanor… Probably more and probably some places/battles too

- Another First Age note- if they are going to show the Helcaraxë, they’re going to have to explain why they’re all there in the first place, but the darkening, the rebellion, the first Kinslaying, and the burning of the ships are not talked about in LotR (at least, not in any detail)

- Celebrimbor’s death is not detailed in LotR. There is nothing about the torture for the knowledge of the rings. Also no banner :(

- Miriel is nowhere to be found, so I’m not sure how they’re going to handle Pharazon claiming the throne and all that.

I’m sure there’s much more, especially relating to Numenor, but this is just what I found on a quick glance

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