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Jane Goodall talked to Morning Edition’s Rachel Martin about her new memoir The Book of Hope – a meditation on how to remain hopeful when the headlines just keep getting worse.

“If we all lose hope, we’re doomed,” she says. “I’ve met so many people who don’t have hope, who say they feel helpless and hopeless. And I say to them, ‘Well, that’s because we’re always being told think globally, act locally.’ But quite honestly, if you think globally you’re just so depressed.” Acting locally, though, can inspire others to do the same, leading to what Goodall calls an “upward spiral.”

Hear the conversation here.

– Petra

Hello! I’m back from vacation – and hella psyched to come back to a book as fun and sharp and layered as Colson Whitehead’s new heist caper Harlem Shuffle. Check out his interview with Fresh Air’s Terry Gross here. He was also on Morning Edition – and you can find our critic Denny Bryce’s rave review here.

– Petra

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