#oh my fucking gosh
That quote ‘women are unaware how much men hate them’ and it’s pretty apt right now.
Over the last few years I’ve spent time looking in manosphere circles and this stuff has been brewing the last few years.
There are compilation videos on YouTube by MGTOW (men going there on way) of women that they hate. Mostly tiktoks about dating and feminism. The comments are full of men who talk about how much they hate 'modern women’, they hate that were in the workforce, they hate that women have 'high standards’ for dating, the gate childless women, they hate career women, they hate single mothers, they hate religious women 'chameleons’ they call them, they hate slutty women and they hate that we can divorce now. A lot of them hate their own female relatives.
It’s a real visceral hatred. One comment was a guy saying he only spoke to women when he imagined them as an inferior being. Another said all he imagines when women speak was whether or not his dick fits in her mouth. They discuss rolling back the clock on women’s rights or talk about women causing the downfall of the west.
They lament the lack of pure women, saying even 18 year olds are 'ran through’, used up, smashed, have '1000 cock stare’, unable to pair bond, hypergamous whores. Women over 30 are dried up hags who are hysterical, bitter Karen’s destined to either die with cats and wine or divorce rape a beta.
When you look at their profiles a lot seem to normal guys. You wouldn’t spot them in the wild. And there is a lot of them. People obsess about white male republicans but a lot of them aren’t. A lot of these manosphere channels are run by black men. A lot of comments are left by Indian men who complain about Indian women getting 'tainted’ by Western feminism. Stuff like fresh and fit is a starting point but these guys get crazier the more you follow the algorithm. Some are religious but a lot aren’t. I saw a lot of 'i hate Muslims but Islam is right about women’.
There’s a black manosphere guy who films foreign women in his Uber and asks them 'why aren’t American women feminine anymore?’ and puts up the videos despite them saying they’re uncomfortable
They share tips on getting a young, untainted wife from poorer countries. A lot share videos of their trips to South America or Asia surrounded by young women (sometimes VERY young).
You also have the tradmen, who claim to care for women but also believe they are inferior and illogical, best kept at home to serve and raise babies. They will say they value women’s natural role’, but it’s telling that this role requires financial dependence and an inability to leave no matter what (these guys get angriest about divorce). These are the ones who feel most cheated that an income is no longer all a man really needs to land himself the attractive 20 something he feels he deserves.
Then you have guys really angry about the dating market, whine about Chad and Stacey, the 80/20 rule, height standards and hypergamy. They talk about living for the day women 'hit the wall’ and they can laugh at their teenage crush getting older and less attractive. I’ve seen comments where they hope women ask them out, so they can have the satisfaction of turning them down cruelly.
They can’t be normal about anything. One Brit talked about going for a walk, and said all the 30 something women he encountered looked miserable. A woman posts a video of her dog and they assume she’s fucking it (dogpill they call it, pornrot more like). A woman posts a video for women about life over 30 and they swarm the comments to say how unattractive she is and that women expire.
There are lots of alpha male type accounts on twitter, usually fronted as fitness advice for men. But there are a lot of posts about women being illogical, childlike, simple minded and often just evil. Lot of younger guys follow these and again, chat about how to bring women to heel.
I know as a woman that being aware of this is very straining for mental health. But I don’t think pretending these guys are a handful of gross yet mostly harmless trolls is a good idea. And they aren’t just cis white men in their mums basement either. The subway shooter was deep in this manosphere stuff, as was the Toronto van killer, yoga shooter and more I’m sure.
A lot talk about wanting sons, but also how they’d never ever want a daughter. The hate is that deep rooted. The she’s someone’s daughter’ isn’t going to help them see women’s humanity.
Keeping women dependent is what a lot of these guys want. And some don’t even want a wife out of it, just putting women back 'in their place’ is enough to make them happy. They love watching videos of women being upset, revel in it.
Removing the right to abortion is one step, they are already talking about repealing women’s right to vote and a lot want women out of the workplace.
Like idk what the solution is, but these guys are out there and would like to get more extreme.
