#ship debate

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snelbz:

dracolovebot:

open-at-the-close:

romaisamaria:

romaisamaria:

Azriel when Elain is kidnapped:

I’m getting her back. Even if I die while doing so. I don’t care. As long as I save her.

Azriel when Gwyn is kidnapped:

Let’s save Eris instead. She’s fine.

The thing that makes me laugh the most about the whole “gwynriel” argument is that, the whole Blood Rite situation happened after Solstice.

You know? Those three pages where people started to believe they’re mates and what not?…After the scene that everyone started shipping them because before that no one gave a damn?

So… if you’re argument is that they’re mates or that he might feel something for her, then his reaction was 100% hilarious compared to his reaction when Elain (a woman who’s mated to another male) got kidnapped. Also… the “Elain was a damsel in distress” blah blah is honestly stupid. First of all… Gwyn was saved by Nesta and Emerie.. she didn’t survive the Blood Rite alone. She was “training” for what? Three months?

Elain “the damsel in distress” who hated war…who had no training and never ever ever picked up a weapon.. ended up stabbing the King of Hybern. Yeah.. she did that. Alone.


Say you only ship Gwynriel because you hate Elain and pack it up.

Also.. friendly reminder… neither Elain nor Gwyn is a device to help “fix” Azriel. Or make him better… of softer.. or any of that bullshit.

It’s 2021…is about time you guys stop using female characters to fix men. Fuck that.

Also… I havent tagged neither Gwynriel or Gwyn so I dont know why you’ll coming to my post to make some dumbass comments.

Elriel shippers have been minding their own business for like 4 books… leave us alone, we like peace but we do know how to throw hands.

THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY.

Maybe Gwynriel is endgame. SJM likes to throw curve balls at us all the time, but she is not his mate. Not unless there is something seriously wrong with his protective instincts.

We have seen him be protective of Elain’s mental and physical well being. We have not seen him be protective of Gwyn, at all. Unless you count when he found her in the most traumatic scene imaginable, when he quickly killed the men, gave her a cloak and then passed her off to Mor and left!

It’s all well a good to say she can take care of herself, but so can Feyre and Nesta and their mates are still overprotective bastards.. because they’re fae and that’s literally what the bond does. The point is, he did the bare minimum when he first saved her, then didn’t talk to her again for two years, then he did not bat an eye when Gwyn was kidnapped. Could they still have a romantic relationship? Sure, but no part of their history sounds like mates.

THIS.ALL OF THIS.

I’m an elucien/elriel equal opportunist, but this is the discourse I’m here for.

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