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Aaaaaah, this is such important and good news.

As someone with complex health needs, it really is heartening to finally see so much progress being made with research and the results finally confirming what many of us suspected: that our complex ailments are the result of viral infection.

Still an absolute mother fucker for those affected, but still, progress!!

Please open and read the article, because the headline doesn’t do the results justice at all:

Becoming EBV-positive resulted in a 32-fold increased risk of later developing MS as opposed to remaining EBV-negative. The next-strongest known risk factor for MS is having a set of genes that encode for proteins found of the surface of certain immune cells. People with a particular set of these immune cells, who have a homozygous genotype for the HLA-DR15 allele, have a threefold increased risk of MS.

That is. Do you know how ludicrously strong a result that is. And they did some clever analysis to prove that it was EBV (mononucleosis/glandular fever) rather than any confounders:

Ascherio’s team examined antibodies against cytomegalovirus, another saliva-borne virus that has also infected most of the world’s population, to serve as a negative control. Individuals who were CMV-negative at their first sample showed no increased risk of MS if they later became CMV-positive.

MS is thought to have a long prodromal phase, meaning the disease could affect the immune system years before symptom onset and diagnosis. Could the EBV-MS relationship be reversed? Perhaps people who have MS but don’t yet show symptoms are more likely to develop an infection such as EBV. To rule this out, Ascherio’s team looked at 30 MS patients, and 30 healthy controls. They used a search tool called VirScan that enables the detection of any antibody raised against any protein in any of the ~200 viruses known to infect humans. The only virus to show significantly increased presence in MS cases was EBV.

Like, I have a degree in statistics, and I am comfortable with saying that this paper has shown that EBV causes MS. And in excellent concurrent news, Moderna has just started phase 1 trials of an mRNA vaccine against EBV! The future is now!

There’s actually been a lot of recent advances showing that ailments we had a hard time understanding or treating before are actually due to variant immune responses to one of the nine human herpes type viruses [The family that included EBV HSV and Chicken pox] and that these conditions are also far more common than previously thought.

As a side note to do with Corona, and these viruses [together], which is just personal observation from my own life, and the people around me, and should be taken as such:

I -personally- have noticed a trend of people who have been infected with corona suddenly developing worsening symptoms or life-threatening health episodes caused by these other viruses, and suspect that Coronavirus does something that affects some people’s immune response to these existing viruses, because the number of people around me who suddenlydeveloped shingles, or suddenly developed viral meningitis [diagnosed as being HSV despite that they’ve had that since high school and are grandparents now], or suddenly had symptoms that would align with one of these viruses causing nerve damage or even affecting their vision -all only after having been exposed to corona virus, or all after the pandemic started regardless of symptoms of covid- is just WAY too damn many to be a coincidence, for conditions and complications that are supposedly so rare that my doctors won’t explore them properly. 

It seems to be doing something to affect the normal/healthy ability for people’s immune systems to suppress these viruses -which stay in the body- the way they regularly would, and the doctors around me seem to be really resistant to admitting it is a problem even once they are forced to diagnose and threat the abnormal symptoms of these herpes family viruses spreading places they shouldn’t. I’d put money on them trying to avoid a huge panic and a huge uptick in demand for antivirals right now, even if it means under-treating patients who might go blind or might have recurrent viral meningitis.

Fibromyalgia was already thought to be a complication of the long term, and even ongoing, nerve damage caused by the chicken pox virus.  It was alreadysuspected that a lot of cases of recurrent meningitis were actually viral and should not be being treated with antibiotics at all. Progress on this has been slow but the evidence is there.

And while it’s speculation on my part, I’m going to betthat the number of people who develop complications from EBV or HSV or Chicken pox is about to SKYROCKET, and the percentage of people diagnosed with fibromyalgia, MS, chronic fatigue and other chronic viral inflammation is about to as well. To the point where the world will be forced to treat these viruses as the public health crisis they have beenforsome of us all along. The problem is easy to ignore and downplay when it’s just a few people -and mostly women- becoming so disabled they can’t live normally, but what percentage of the population suffering from these things does it take for there to be systemic change in how it is diagnosed and handled?

And I wonder how much the ‘Trumpets’ who are insistent on partying and not taking this virus seriously would suddenly change their tune if they realized it could mean having huge visible cold sores or herpes outbreaks suddenly be a monthlyexperience for them for the rest of their lives, or could mean one of those viruses might suddenly spread to their eyes, lungs or brain when they were previously healthy and previously had a proper immune response. All in a pandemic with doctors who already refused to take those possibilities seriously enough to treat them in time to prevent disability and death and who are currently run down and exhausted of all energy or resources.

oh, yeah, my dad got COVID and it unvaccinated him. he got the shingles vaccine and nope! covid undid it and he was having shingles symptoms right on the tail of his covid symptoms. bad ones, too- trigeminal neuralgia in the face. I think there’s some other folks who have similar stories of people getting covid and losing immunity to viruses or post-viral symptoms.

(also- do most people not get monthly cold sores? is that abnormal?)

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