#theory policy

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  • BlastYoBoots:  so i was just talking to dandelionProphet about Seer and Mage stuff
  • dandelionProphet: as you do
  • BlastYoBoots: and mentioned how a guide doesn’t have to tell the truth
  • > a Seer uses their understanding of (and through) their aspect to guide others. there’s nothing in there about guiding them truthfully
  • > see: Terezi
  • and was thinking of Mind as façade and the multiple meanings and
  • just
  • FUCK
  • Mind is Lying
  • Heart is Sincerity
  • Dirkdestroys sincerity
  • == irony
  • dandelionProphet: oh god youre right
  • BlastYoBoots: AND destroys with sincerity
  • dandelionProphet: hes weirdly like one of the most sincere characters in homestuck
  • despite being such a prince about stuff
  • BlastYoBoots: his sincerity/insincerity duality was always amazingly done and evident
  • and I always could explain how that was Heart aspect related
  • but I didn’t put it together that it was LITERALLY that SIMPLE, fuck

I’ll add this to the Aspect Duality post because I’m a moron and it took me this many years apparently.

(EDIT:More clarification here)

THE DEVICEI don’t usually put images from the latest updates on main outside a read-more cut, but I’

THE DEVICE

I don’t usually put images from the latest updates on main outside a read-more cut, but I’m getting further people messaging in today saying they think THE DEVICE hidden under a sheet in HS^2′s latest – the one at the very center of the noncanon singularity, where they believe bringing Vriska and having something too important for Canon to ignore happen will make a difference – matches the shape of the Hiveswap door.

And it definitely, INTENTIONALLY matches the general SHAPE of the door as well as its “trapped under a tarp” aesthetic, but in Homestuck that’s no guarantee that the device is the SAME, much less even similar.

Plus, as much as a Hiveswap door gives things a “trading between worlds” feel in a story where we’re ALREADY bifurcated between Meat and Candy sides, and as much as Dirk is specifically afraid of Yiffy in a metatextual making-that-story-better-than-mine sense, there’s some reason to believe from Calliope’s language that the goal of the device is a bit more esoteric:

CALLIOPE: as far as everyone else is concerned, we might as well not even exist!
JOHN: is there no way we could let anyone know that we’re in here…?
CALLIOPE: almost certainly not!
CALLIOPE: there are very few ways for anything to escape the kind of predicament that we are in right now.

If the device’s purpose were to more or less directly enlist the help of those in Canon – at the present time, at least – or pull one of them away while shoving another in their place who could relay the status of their current predicament, then Calliope answering John’s question this way would be pretty weird.  Though, by using the weasel-wording “very few”, she does not rule OUT the idea that this device DOES allow SOMETHING to take place between Canon and Non-Canon.  Especially since, considering their goal:

CALLIOPE: as far as we have been able to sUrmise, the only remaining method for escaping oUr grim confinement depends on leveraging the UniqUe properties of this location to create an event of sUch catalcysmic proportions that it simply cannot be contained within the black hole any more.
CALLIOPE: something SO dramatic, so hyper-relevant, that it becomes ontologically impossible for anyone to ignore it.
CALLIOPE: for that, we need an individUal of sUfficient narrative cloUt, so to speak.

–could easily be accomplished by forcing all of canon to heavily, HEAVILY depend on noncanon, by inserting some crucial event or extraneous factor at some important time and place, important beyond even the typical canon-centric doomed timeline’s occasional importance to the plot.  Note, Calliope already mentioned, earlier in the conversation:

JOHN: you mean we ended up with the bad possibility.
CALLIOPE: not at all! since both possibilities depend on one another’s existence, it really doesn’t make sense to call them “right” or “wrong”. they both just “are”.

–that Meat and Candy could not exist without each other.  Which could just have to do with the fact that “choices” matter to Paradox Space, especially the choice to do something Heroic for the sake of reality or to relax and sit back, and that if it weren’t important enough to have required a choice, then it wouldn’t have been important enough at all.  But Terezi had interactions with people across BOTH sides of the coin flip, and Vriska specifically was able to get a message through to her on Meat Earth C from deep in Candy (which Calliope lampshaded she would have been very surprised to find out happened– another thing that makes Vriska powerful for sending things back and forth even if the “event” may or may not directly involve her, (edit:) not to mention John too with Breath’s mail/messages association!).

So, simply sending ANYTHING or ANYONE across the gap, if this tarped machine even DOES that, wouldn’t do on its own– it would have to be something important, important possibly to all existence.  If you wanted to get super-serious, maybe even the as-of-yet-unsourced final frog sent to young Jade.  Thus proving that without the Candy timeline, Earth C’s universe – not only the place of the kids’ victory, but the eventual birthplace of Calliope and Caliborn and the origin of Lord English – couldn’t exist at all, and consequently either forcing the Candy version of Earth C out of the singularity or forcing reality to acknowledge the fact that the WHOLE singularity – all of “non-Canon” – has relevance, and thus stability. Alt!Calliope would have made her fanfic-timeline come true.

But, that’s just one theory.  I wrote this post so y’all could reblog and debate other possibilities for both the machine under the tarp and the dramatic act of relevance that they intend to have take place.  Some sort of silly dramatic kiss?  Shoving Vriska into Hiveswap’s timeline?  An “oops, all Vriskas” disaster?  I’ll keep this up to date with some of your theories and addendums under the cut as y’all reply/reblog and send in asks.  What exactly do YOU think is the eventual, silly-serious-or-both purpose of all this bullshit?


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