“Oh you had a plague? Come back to us when you had a World War, brand new unconventional weapons, and a new international order.”
I apologize.
insert that YOU chihuahua post where theyre being pinned down i cant for the life of me find it
This one?
Oh, Charles. The hubris. Honey. You had to know this was a possibility. Why would you tempt Apollo like that.
I love how we don’t even need Apollo to be captioned, it’s just “he’s holding a dodgeball and looks Greek statue, of COURSE it’s Apollo delivering the gift of prophecy unto unsuspecting tumblr users”
Roe vs Wade is a Supreme Court ruling made on January 22nd 1973 and is the ruling that has upheld the prevention of abortion bans across America. Abortion is a very sensitive topic, and there are many people calling for a total ban on abortion, regardless of circumstances.
Roe vs Wade found creating state regulation on abortion infringed on a woman’s right to privacy, meaning that no individual state could place a total ban on abortion. It was deemed to contradict the fourteenth amendment which states “nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”.
In America they have a codified and entrenched constitution - this means it is written down and consistently referred to and is essentially a kind of “rulebook” from which all other judgements are made. The constitution is what is known as a sovereign body, this is the body with the most power (in the UK it is our Parliament). The Supreme Court is made up of 9 justices, always having an odd number so there is never a tie when making a decision. Each justice is appointed by a president and then has to be approved by the Senate to gain their seat. The Supreme Court’s job is to uphold the constitution and the laws written in it - theoretically placing them higher than the president themselves as they are the closest beings to the sovereign body. If a case is thought to be breaking the constitution it faces the Supreme Court (not every single one but I’m simplifying it) and they will deliberate and vote on whether they believe it to be unconstitutional or not and whether an amendment should be made to the constitution.
The constitution was written in the late 1700s and has been amended 27 times in the last 250 years. Arguably it is an outdated document but that’s a discussion for another time.
When the Supreme Court make a ruling it can lead to a constitutional amendment (rare) or it could set a precedent, and setting a precedent is exactly what roe vs wade has done.
So what is the leaked document?
On Monday the 2nd of May, a document was leaked from SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the United States) detailing their apparent plans to overrule the Roe vs Wade decision. Because Roe vs Wade was not written into the constitution, it wouldn’t take more than a majority vote to overrule it and it is something that has been a threat since it was first ruled. The 7-2 majority ruling in favour of preventing states banning abortion, allowed women autonomy over their bodies, it allowed them to make the choices that were right for them and not be dictated by governments who they didn’t support. But it also created an uproar of people who thought this was wrong. Women going to planned parenthood have been screamed at and verbally abused for making this decision for themselves (not to mention that planned parenthood does more things than abortion and contraception). And no woman wants to have an abortion. A woman wants an abortion the same way an animal in a trap wants to chew off its own leg.
In the leaked document it was shown that a majority ruling of 5-4 had ruled to overturn the Roe vs Wade decision, allowing states to regulate abortions as they wish. This decision was made by the 9 justices, 6 of whom are male and 3 of whom are female. There were 4 men and 1 women who voted in favour of overruling the case and all 5 of them were appointed by republican presidents. The most recent being Neil Gorsuch who was appointed by Donald Trump.
If this document is followed through there have been 26 states who are confirmed/highly likely to place a total ban on abortion, with no exceptions or exemptions. This means that you cannot get an abortion under ANY circumstances, including rape, incest or damage to the mother. That’s right, your doctor can tell you that carrying this baby to term will kill you and you will still not be allowed an abortion. In fact, in some states you can be charged with murder and the doctor can be charged with accessory to murder if you try. These will each get you longer sentences than what the rapist would get.
The main argument against abortion is “pro-life”. They are anti abortion because they claim that the foetus has a heartbeat and therefore having an abortion is “murder”. However, these groups only place their focus on an unborn cluster of cells. They do nothing to help or raise awareness about the number of children growing up in orphanages, foster care or unstable home environments. These are children who have lives they are currently living and can feel pain, however, pro lifers choose to place their attention elsewhere and leave these children to suffer. If they were genuinely pro life, they would care about the lives of those who are actually alive, not an embryo that has barely developed gills.
Furthermore, any bans placed on abortion is unlikely to prevent abortions. Instead it will force women to travel outside of the state, it will increase the number of back alley abortions and coat hanger abortions. It will also increase the risk of infection and death in a country that already holds one of the highest maternal mortality rates.
Some current abortion laws in various states:
A Michigan judge has given a convicted sex offender joint custody of a child born to a women he raped when she was 12 years old.
Texas has already placed a ban on abortion from after 6 weeks. Some women may not even know they are pregnant by then.
In Georgia, if you miscarry you could be liable for second degree murder. This could get you 10 - 30 years in prison.
In Arkansas, rapists are allowed to sue their victims if the victim wants an abortion.
In North Carolina, consent cannot be withdrawn once sex starts.
In Ohio, using birth control such as pills, IUDs etc. that can stop the fertilised egg from implanting in the uterus is considered abortion.
Alabama already has a near-total ban on abortion with no exceptions for rape or incest. Doctors could face 99 years for providing abortions.
Some quotes from 2019 republican senators about rape:
“Rape is kind of inevitable like the weather. If it’s inevitable, relax and enjoy it.” - Clayton Williams
“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that thing down” - Todd Akin
“Rape victims should make the best of a bad situation” - Rick Santorum
“Even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that is something that God intended to happen.” - Richard Mourdock
“If a woman has the right to an abortion, why shouldn’t a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman? At least the rapist’s pursuit of sexual freedom doesn’t result in anyone’s death.” - Lawrence Lockamn
If the government actually cared like they claim to, they wouldn’t be regulating women’s bodies and blaming them for something that takes two people to do. They would be investing in quality sex education, more sexual health clinics and providing free contraception to prevent unwanted pregnancies. But they don’t and they won’t and that is how you can tell that it is not about the baby but about having control over the woman.
The thing I find hilarious about Skyrim is how shocked everyone is that Dragons exist
“But how?! I thought they were a legend!” says the Dragonsreach guard, as Jarl Balgruuf sits below a massive dragon skull nailed to the wall.
“Dragons… preposterous. Children’s stories.” says another nord, as if nobody in the past 4000 years has ever spread word of the 200 dragon skeletons laying around outside Miraak’s temple on Solstheim.
“Pffft. Dragons my asshole.” says the Ivarstead mailman, as he goes to deliver a package to the Greybeards, whose entire shtick is that they speak dragon and use the dragon-made Thu’um.
In fairness, the cart drivers occasionally say “They say Markarth was built by the dwarves. Don’t believe a word of it though.” when Markarth was very obviously built by the dwarves and they have NO reason to doubt that, so apparently Nords are just stupid across the board. which checks out.
Parts….of Markarth were built by the dwarves….parts.
And, tbh op, most of Skyrim thinks the dragons are all gone, not that they never ever existed in the first place
This whole thread is a dumb take.
Yeah, any city will have to expand as time goes on. It’s still ridiculous to scoff at the idea of the Dwarves building it in the first place. Like, if someone said “the Aztecs built Mexico City”, you wouldn’t be like “that’s ridiculous, don’t believe a word of that”.
And there are some people who act like that. Like Proventus Avenicci dismissing the very idea of a Dragonborn as “Nord nonsense” while he’s standing in a room with a giant dragon skull. Hell, even the loading screen tells you that “most Nords believed dragons where only a legend until now”, and Ralof questions “could the legends be true?” the first time he sees a dragon.
Or, Non dwarves built a city on top of dwemer ruins, which is very obvious to anyone with eyes.
Proventius dismissed the dragonborn, not dragons.
The legends were about Alduin the world eater, not just the existence of dragons.
Except Markarth has a completely different aesthetic to every other Nord town, and any guard will warn you that there are Centurions under the city. Like, if it was public knowledge that there was a bunch of zombie Roman legionaries in the catacombs of a city, it would be fair to suggest that maybe the city was built by Romans.
That’s even worse! The emperors up until Martin were all Dragonborn, and it was not having a Dragonborn emperor that started the Oblivion Crisis. That’s not even ancient history at that point.
The loading screen is about as objective a source as you can get. It specifically says that most Nords thought that dragons were a legend.
Yes. And most thought the DragonBorn were only tied to Akatosh, the Dragon God of Time. That it was a reference to the covenant made between Akatosh and Saint Alessia. It is even specifically stated in-game that the tie to real dragons is almost completely forgotten even within scholarly circles.
I have already explained why despite all of these it makes perfect sense for them to not believe dragons exist. And on the subject of Markarth, I’m betting the VAST majority of the population of skyrim have never seen a dwarven ruin in their life. Not everyone is an adventurer. Most peasants, even irl, do not explore beyond their villages unless needed. It may be silly to us, the player, that someone can look at Markarth and not believe it was made by dwarves. But to the average carriage driver who doesn’t explore dwarven ruins? Completely believable. Especially considering literally all other dwarven ruins require you to leave the roads to find.
It is seriously not that hard to get if you pay attention to the game.
Doesn’t explain why he dismisses the idea of a dragonborn as “nord nonsense”. Even if he disagrees on where they get their name, he would have to be aware that they exist.
Every guard recognises Dwarven weapons and armour as Dwarven. Every blacksmith is capable of selling Dwarven equipment. Dwarven equipment is even used in Cyrodil, which has no Dwarven ruins. The Dwarves are not some obscure race that no-one knows about, they’re immediately recognisable and their goods are commonly used throughout the Empire.
The guards of Markarth are even able to mention Nchuand-Zel and Steam Centurions by name. This isn’t hidden knowledge. A carriage driver would need to talk to literally one Markarth guard to find all this out.
1) Proventus is an Imperial and shows multiple times to view Nordic tradition and beliefs as backwards savage nonsense. He was born in an Era in which the Dragonborn Emperors no longer exist and even worshipping Talos is forbidden. It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch for the term “Dragonborn” to have fallen out of common parlance. It has been over 200 years since the Oblivion Crisis (where the last Dragonborn Emperor, and the last Dragonborn to be seen since the third era, gave his life to end the Oblivion Crisis), and since even in the religion of the Empire (the 9 divines) the term “Dragonborn” came from the nords and the Akaviri, it is, again, fully believable that someone like preventus would dismiss it as “Nord Nonsense.” Again, he is kinda a fucking bigot who views Nordic beliefs as backwards savage nonsense.
2) Maybe so, but the Guardsman are soldiers of the Jarl and thus would have access to the best weaponry the hold has, and as is demonstrated multiple times, the Jarls do employ sellswords and adventurers to retrieve stuff for them from ancient ruins. It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to think Adventurers got them those weapons (or in the case of Markarth, they found them within the city). And of course the people who use said weapons would know them when they see them.
As for the Blacksmith, canonically, Dwarven smithing is a lost art. So again, it would have to come from adventurers and sell-swords.
And in Cyrodiil that is also obvious. Importation from countries that have said weaponry.
Dwarves actually are considered a pretty obscure race within the world. Very little is known about them, with even the greatest scholars on the subjects only being able to tell vague details about their culture and history (beyond what is known from them in certain historical events). They’re well-known in that people know OF them. But knowing they exist is a very far cry from being able to tell their archetecture at a glance, let alone being able to accept that they built and entire city ON THE SURFACE that Nords now live in.
They literally live in the city and take part in The Court Wizard’s study of the dwarven city and constructs. Of course they’d know about them. Just because a Carriage driver COULD ask them about it doesn’t mean they WOULD. Especially considering the Guards in Markarth are CORRUPT AS FUCK and that is not only well-known but the subject of an entire quest, The Forsworn Conspiracy.
Tell me, would you stop to talk to guardsmen you KNEW were corrupt assholes? Or would you, a lowly carriage driver they could disappear with no one giving two shits about it, just stick to your job and avoid them unless necessary?
1. I’m sorry, but are you seriously suggesting that 200 years after demons invaded the earth, people wouldn’t remember why they invaded in the first place? It was only the defining event of the era that led to the end of a dynasty that’s been in charge of the Empire since its founding! Even if you make the argument that Proventus is a bigot, he’s still supposed to be a learned man who is loyal to the Empire. Don’t you think he would have been taught about the Oblivion Crisis?
2. My point is that people clearly interact with Dwarven equipment enough that it is immediately recognisable as Dwarven. They are familiar enough with Dwarven aesthetics to immediately look at a Dwarven sword and go “yup, that’s Dwarven”. We even see this with Spellbreaker, the Daedric artifact, where guards will mention how it looks Dwarven, but there’s something more to it - not only are they familar enough to recognise it as Dwarven, but they can even recognise when there’s something off about Dwarven stuff. Even if that’s down to Daedric magic, that still means the guards are familiar enough with Dwarven stuff to know that they don’t usually emit the same magical effects as Spellbreaker.
The guards will tell the Dragonborn about Nchuand-Zel unprompted. Dwarven excavations don’t interrupt the silver mining operations, which is what the guards are corrupt in favour of - they’re bought by the Silver-Bloods, so why would them being corrupt prevent them from telling a carriage driver about the Dwarven ruins?
As fun as this argument is, all I can think of is the Mark Twain book The Innocents Abroad where he and his friends fuck with a bunch of tour guides by pretending they’d never heard of the most commonly-known shit. “Egypt? Never heard of it. Christopher Columbus? Who’s he? What’d he do?”
Maybe it’s the same with the nords and the Dragonborn. “Dragons? Never heard of them. Dwarves? What are those?”
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and I say, for the millionth time, bless your hearts this fandom is so fucking stupid.
