Yttd doodles cuz this last chapter was GOOD minor spoilers anddddd emotion route gang for life ✊ I TRIED TO PUT ALL MAIN CHARACTERS AND I FORGOT KAI AND HINAKO SORRY
I can’t believe this mother fucker didn’t even “die” from Alice,,,, he JUST JUMPED OFF A FUCKING BALCONY AND FACE PLANTED INTO A GARDEN EDGING FENCE. HOW DID-…….. WHAT.?
What’s the (in universe) point of Your Turn to Shine?
(Spoiler warning)
When Mishima’s story first came out, people immediately started theorizing about the island, the endings, Jin, Touko, and Rei, but with the addition of the Kai ending, we have a fraction of an answer and way more questions.
When the side game dropped, the biggest question was, “what’s the point of the simulation?” The Sara scene shocked people, wondering what she’s doing and at what point in time.
Allegedly? YTTS is supposed to be able to stand independently from YTTD, but I can’t believe there’s no overlap in new information.
When the protagonist (Mishima or Kai as of today) escapes, she tells a mystery person to delete the simulation and to start it again “as many times as it takes”. As many times as it takes to do what?
Previously, this was the only decent outcome to the game, but now we have two “good” endings where this scene doesn’t show up.
When Kai decided to stay on the island and be a chef, or when Mishima decides to stay and be a teacher, Sara doesn’t shut things down or interrupt at all. Does this mean that these are the results she’s looking for?
I saw someone in the YouTube comments say that Asunaro’s motto is about becoming who you want to be. I totally forgot since it’s been a while since I played the whole game. I would imagine that being an inspirational teacher is Mishima’s ideal lifestyle and being a respected head chef at a restaurant is Kai’s.
When they return to their normal lives, the simulation failed, but when they put their dreams first and grow into their fantasy, it’s a success?
In the endings which I assume are acceptable to “Sara?”, the PC meets the person they care about most. They look fantastic older to me. Sara is just herself with her hair down, maybe a bit longer, and non-uniform clothes, but Nao’s bangs and most of her hair texture are totally different, not to mention the clothes. She has an overall more mature vibe. Plus, she says she’s not in college anymore and is instead entering the workforce as a teacher.
But if Nao dies at the age of 19, how does Asunaro and/or Sara? know what she looks like past that age? Are they using AI to age her up? That’s very possible. I’d think that future endings will have different characters show up at the end e.g. Reko for Alice, but as of right now, it could be that YTTS takes place after the massacre ending and that the mystery person talking to Sara? is Nao.
Anyways, why does Sara? want the people to achieve development and pursue their dreams? Does she want to resurrect her dead friends as dolls? Is this her rebellion against Asunaro; forcing the participants to become happy, successful individuals instead of turning them into hardened killers? I believe Sara? is some sort of post-ending survivor version of herself.
Popular idea, but I think Jin, Touko, and Rei are participants of the Hades Incident, Touko being memorandum girl, Jin being the man whose views most align with hers, and Rei being the memorandum man. So he’s Meister, I guess. The man who created the simulation world. Mr. Rei Chidouin? Since he dies in every simulation, did Sara? rig the game against him?
There’s not a lot to go off of yet, and unless we’ll keep getting new routes within character stories, we won’t get much. When will these questions be answered? After the regular YTTD game ends? After you complete all the PC stories? It seems like all PCs learn the same info in their routes, so any conclusive ending can’t just be a normal route unless maybe it’s Sara’s or something because she might read the diary and recognize Rei’s name despite the memory erasure. Kai didn’t, but maybe he never knew it?
What do you guys think?
Hmm Mr. Chidouin is impossible that he is memorandum man or Rei because in japanese
their way of speaking is too different, the way of saying “I” both memorandum man and rei resembles Shin or Midori. But Midori is already confirmed by the sunnies to be there and Shin would have recognized him if he were Rei. So I guess Nankidai has in mind to pull off a twist like in 2-2 with percentages.
Touko and Jin I think they are connected with Sara by blood due to Kai’s comment about her.
Touko cannot be the memorandum girl because she is a 17 year old high school girl, while Touko is a college girl.
I would like it to be confirmed that is with a specific route like the Nao route, but there are contradictions, Sara is evil, Hinako is not the real Hinako, Sara has never even seen her how she looks in the video and Mai does not have the gloves, while in the video do.
Could it be, then, that Rei is the original Sou Hiyori? And I don’t mean Midori, I mean the human one before he turned himself into an immortal doll. Shin wouldn’t “recognize” him because he’d totally forget he even existed. Midori was allegedly supposed to be a participant along with the rest of them from the beginning until Alice “killed” him. At least, that’s the explanation we got, but the Alice thing was a setup. It could be that participant #13 is the guy on the bed in Miley’s office, who is Rei. Rei says he created the island, meaning he worked for Asunaro. Maybe he even started the AI initiative it’s built on. He could be a villainous character who was mind-wiped into being alright, like Meister, or he could be another Hayasaka who helped set things up and ended up getting put in the game himself.
It’s possible for Midori to be memo man if we assume he’s been rebuilding his body for a very long time, which is kind of implied. The problem is that memo man and Meister seem to be the same guy, which makes sense. MM supposedly won the Hades Incident which has control over the mafia as its prize, and Meister is in charge of the game if not Asunaro as a whole.
Mr. Chidouin appears dressed as Meister, but in his e-mails, he sounds like he works underneath other people. He could’ve been lying, but he’s too young to have been around that long, unless he also does the doll thing. Meister is depicted as having white hair, after all. And I feel like the motivations of doll Midori don’t match up with Meister’s. Plus, his reaction to being given that name at the start of ch3 implies that he’s also a subordinate under him.
Another thing is that YTTS is very low-spoiler for the main game, and we’re only two big updates in. If YTTD decided to, for example, make Megumi, Kugie, and real Hinako important on screen with more development, then I’d expect them to be worked into the game. Even Alice still goes by Gonbee Yamada.
I do think Touko and Jin have some significance, though. If Sara and Nao can show up as older versions of themselves, then the ages of the other two don’t have to match up perfectly with the memo. To me, Kai’s comment about Touko was that her determination and gumption reminded him of Sara, not that she physically looks like her or something. Sara’s mom is blonde as well, though, and we haven’t gotten content of her since the beginning when she was KO’d on the floor.
What’s the (in universe) point of Your Turn to Shine?
(Spoiler warning)
When Mishima’s story first came out, people immediately started theorizing about the island, the endings, Jin, Touko, and Rei, but with the addition of the Kai ending, we have a fraction of an answer and way more questions.
When the side game dropped, the biggest question was, “what’s the point of the simulation?” The Sara scene shocked people, wondering what she’s doing and at what point in time.
Allegedly? YTTS is supposed to be able to stand independently from YTTD, but I can’t believe there’s no overlap in new information.
When the protagonist (Mishima or Kai as of today) escapes, she tells a mystery person to delete the simulation and to start it again “as many times as it takes”. As many times as it takes to do what?
Previously, this was the only decent outcome to the game, but now we have two “good” endings where this scene doesn’t show up.
When Kai decided to stay on the island and be a chef, or when Mishima decides to stay and be a teacher, Sara doesn’t shut things down or interrupt at all. Does this mean that these are the results she’s looking for?
I saw someone in the YouTube comments say that Asunaro’s motto is about becoming who you want to be. I totally forgot since it’s been a while since I played the whole game. I would imagine that being an inspirational teacher is Mishima’s ideal lifestyle and being a respected head chef at a restaurant is Kai’s.
When they return to their normal lives, the simulation failed, but when they put their dreams first and grow into their fantasy, it’s a success?
In the endings which I assume are acceptable to “Sara?”, the PC meets the person they care about most. They look fantastic older to me. Sara is just herself with her hair down, maybe a bit longer, and non-uniform clothes, but Nao’s bangs and most of her hair texture are totally different, not to mention the clothes. She has an overall more mature vibe. Plus, she says she’s not in college anymore and is instead entering the workforce as a teacher.
But if Nao dies at the age of 19, how does Asunaro and/or Sara? know what she looks like past that age? Are they using AI to age her up? That’s very possible. I’d think that future endings will have different characters show up at the end e.g. Reko for Alice, but as of right now, it could be that YTTS takes place after the massacre ending and that the mystery person talking to Sara? is Nao.
Anyways, why does Sara? want the people to achieve development and pursue their dreams? Does she want to resurrect her dead friends as dolls? Is this her rebellion against Asunaro; forcing the participants to become happy, successful individuals instead of turning them into hardened killers? I believe Sara? is some sort of post-ending survivor version of herself.
Popular idea, but I think Jin, Touko, and Rei are participants of the Hades Incident, Touko being memorandum girl, Jin being the man whose views most align with hers, and Rei being the memorandum man. So he’s Meister, I guess. The man who created the simulation world. Mr. Rei Chidouin? Since he dies in every simulation, did Sara? rig the game against him?
There’s not a lot to go off of yet, and unless we’ll keep getting new routes within character stories, we won’t get much. When will these questions be answered? After the regular YTTD game ends? After you complete all the PC stories? It seems like all PCs learn the same info in their routes, so any conclusive ending can’t just be a normal route unless maybe it’s Sara’s or something because she might read the diary and recognize Rei’s name despite the memory erasure. Kai didn’t, but maybe he never knew it?
If it’s not Shunsuke (too sane) or Midori (too NATURALLY insane), then who is it? I’m now totally stumped - there isn’t a single member of the cast who’d be a likely candidate.
In fact, does it even matter? This detail could still be a red herring. However, that raises another question - why did Nankidai choose to only tell us how Asunaro got Miley and not Safalin? Emiri and Michiru’s backstories were both introduced at the same time, so there should (theoretically) be an explanation for her too… The focus on this specific detail seems pretty deliberate to me. What do you guys think?
This is kind of a crack theory, but once I saw official ensemble art by Nankidai and mistook Gin for Sue Miley at first. I noticed that they do look pretty similar.
Gin talks about his stepdad, who has been around since he was a baby. His mom appears in an official sketch, and she just has typical long straight hair, NPC stuff
But? Mayyybee they’re related in some way? Like maybe her fiancé is his biological father or something? Idk, but Gin has a very low survival chance, so he must have received a massive buff. This probably has to do with his little trip down to Miley’s office in chapter 2 where he must’ve learned something helpful or received something useful. You know, the room with the freakin’ mystery hospital bed figure that @grookles mentioned. We’ve never seen Gin’s collar, and he’s one of the few characters who can’t die outside of the ch2 mini games as of 31B, so maybe part of his equalizing buff is Miley protecting him from behind the scenes.
Once again this isn’t super solid and kind of crack-y, but I agree that there are a lot of fishy little details in this game that feel like they’ll be important later.
Do you ever just sit there and think how the message of yttd is that even in a horrible place like the death game, humans are all inherently good people? Joe, who spent a lot of his last moments trying to trick everyone into their graves to survive, leaves by saying that he’s not angry, and that he can’t see any of them as bad people, even the convicted murderer and the person who had made himself out to be an enemy of the whole group. And sure enough, Alice is a soft kind person at heart and so is Shin. Even within the confines of this death game, unbreakable bonds that last a lifetime form. Keiji, a man so convinced he’s a monster because of his past goes on to become a father figure. Qtaro goes from a realist willing to sacrifice the weak to someone who gives his life to protect them. Nao, even in the route where she succeeds in killing everyone for her own survival, tells Sara that she will bear the burden of guilt for her, so she won’t feel the pain. Sara, a person who had such a record of being a cold heartless person in the simulations, and in logic route had the opportunity to become that person, rejects the notion and strives to become better. Shin at his lowest moments, still finds it in himself to comfort Sara and to beg for Gins life. Mai doesn’t understand how she can be offered a hand of kindness after literally stabbing Qtaro in the back, but she takes it, and uses it to better herself. Kurumada starts as closed off and mean but comes to wholeheartedly care for every one of the dummies. The death game brings out the worst in people, but you can never kill the inherent goodness present in humanity, and that fucking slaps as a moral.
Me: Alice is a complex character. Probably one of the most inherently kind people in the death game, but also one who is racked with temperament. His want to praise others often comes with the accompaniment of putting himself down, and he’s prone to outburst and confrontation over things, big and small, insterspersed with overdramatic declarations, yet when his sister dies, it triggers a total shutdown in him, barely able to do anything but self-deprecate and lash out in a pattern that’s almost suicidal considering his attack on Gashu, and doesn’t even overcome this dark mental state. Instead he retreats from it by forgetting his pain. What would he do if he wasn’t offered this out I wonder? How long would he have wandered in misery? Is it possible for him to have faced his pain? If so what kind of person would he be? Because the Alice Yabusame we know, is a person who is constantly running.
Delighted to get an ask for our king Alice!! I’ll answer the second part of your question here, Anon.
For this question, I’d like to examine Alice’s characterization before and after losing Reko. Ironically, when we meet Alice, he has one of the healthiest attitudes towards dealing with pain. Even though he is a suffering prisoner, he doesn’t repress his feelings like other characters do. He is open and earnest. However, Reko’s death breaks Alice’s spirit like nothing else ever has. Losing his beloved sister means that he no longer sees a path forward, and he becomes desperate and vengeful. I view Alice as someone who began the Death Game with healthy priorities, but that falls apart if he loses the person he loved most.
