Why the authors of Miraculous Ladybug hate Felix so much
It’s obvious that Felix is important — and they can’t deny it, and couldn’t even resist making him to be the reason of a big Ladybug’s failure in season 4 finals. And they left him in that scene looking at the burning Paris side by side with her anyway (the scene from PV-trailer, where Ladybug looks at the burning city together with Felix-Chat Noir).
Funny dynamics, isn’t it?
But why? Couldn’t they use Lila as a villain-type role? Or even Chloe?
And why did they even brought Felix back after saying that he won’t appear in the show?
On my opinion, the answer is purely psychological.
Felix is like a first born son to show, that they had to give away and someone else raised him…) — and that is why we often see Felix as an older sibling in fanfictions — because the fans intuitively feel his status.
Felix is more mature in comparison to a playful and sheltered Adrien, who of course took some hardness from his father (that we saw for example when he made Lila get Mari back to school and some other moments), but still much softer then Felix.
Adrien has his feminine side a little too developed sometimes. That’s how he gives the ruling role to Ladybug, for instance, although they start out as equal partners. And even when she becomes a Guardian, Chat Noir whines and suffers from her secrets instead of making a firm stand.
But also being so soft as Adrien! They even made him a princess to be saved! Come on! Is this what you expect from the leading male character?
So while Adrien is nice and all, he can never reach Felix’s potential of freedom and inner strength (not to be confused with the bravery, ‘cause that he has).
I think the authors of the show hate Felix for this, for being strong, self-sufficient, extremely smart, playful in his own way, but strict at the same time, taking from life what he wants and making decisions that he considers necessary. And with all that inner depth and outer freedom they had to refuse him. Give him up for sweet Adrien.
So now that they were aloud to bring him back to the show, they can’t stand but show his strength and importance, even making him an antihero (not the villain, btw, ‘cause he didn’t actually hurt anyone directly, but left to the hero’s fight their own fights, and played on their weaknesses in order to get what he wants.
After all — nobody asked Ladybug to give him that miraculous.
Felix also has a great relationship with his mother, which makes him potentially much more adequate in building relationships with a girl, while Adrien’s position would be distorted by rigidity (taken from his father) on the one hand and infantilism on the other.
To naive children for whom this show is made, Adrinette couple seems perfect, but in practice the two would not last long together. At the same time Felix would found the way to conquer Mari if he wanted to and found how to build a deep relationship. And with passion everything would be good as well.
That’s why I love to write Canon Felinette much more then even PV. I mean, PV are sweet and classic, but Canon Felix, who returned to the show as an antihero has just SO MUCH MORE potential.
I can see him as a strong man next to Marinette, with this girl changing the direction of his actions with her warm heart, and he can be that internally strong support that she really needs. Because while Adrien-Chat says the encouraging words based by his belief he n good, Felix would make sure that the good would happen, no matters the ways of reaching it.
He also wouldn’t stop by her rejections like Adrien did if he fell for any of Mari’s guises — I’d rather expect him to trick her into falling in love with him — until it wouldn’t be important why and how their romance started.
Because we saw that he is ready to play till the end to reach his goal, and not only with honest and direct methods that both Marinette and Adrien mostly use.
And Mari herself — who can still phones and dress funny to sneak to Adrien’s house — much closer to Felix’s way of acting, so honestly — they would understand each other much better then the “go the higher road” boy — once they would have a common goal.
So I see I went a little further then just the “why the MLB-authors hate Felix” topic, but it’s all about the same. Felix has a strong position to be at the leading male role in this show, and they feel it, and they’ll use him as such, even if they will have to turn him to the other side of the barricades.
Just because they cant let him go from their mind.
Drama of life)
I prefer Felinette over Adrinette, because I feel like Marinette and Felix are more like equals than Marinette and Adrien. Adrien is attracted to strong, determined people (like LB and Kagami), because he’s not able to stand up against his dad. I don’t blame him, it’s not easy to stand up to your abuser, especially since it’s his dad and he wants to believe, that he loves him. But yes, even though he likes to think of him as Chat as some knight, he’s more like a damsel in distress.
That’s ok, I actually think the “Boys can be princesses in need of saving, too” thing good. Let him be in need of a saviour, that’s ok. But that also means that any romantic relationship he gets into (while beeing in need of saving) is doomed or will have at least major problems down the line (and I don’t trust Miraculous to deal with them appropriately). There would be a power imbalance and that can’t be a good foundation for any kind of happy long term relationship.
Felix on the other hand doesn’t sit around to wait for a hero to save him. He’s ready to make a deal with the devil if that’s what it takes. He and Marinette compliment each other, their strengths and weaknesses balance each other out. She has a strong moral compass and can set the goal and device a plan and he can make sure the plan goes through, maybe by using his own methods in some sort of grey area (well, as long as the goal is reached … You know )
I haven’t seen the finale, I just sort of know what happens, so I’m not sure if it’s just LB again or if Marinette also has some interactions with Felix, but there is a reason why Marinette and Felix are always bickering like an old married couple in fanfictions (I think I even once read one which wasn’t Felinette and they were still bickering): They have that energy and that’s so much more compelling than the way Marinette is constantly forced to stammer and stumble when interacting with Adrien.
And this is why the writers hate Felix: He’s a threat to Adrien’s status as male lead and as “perfect”. I somewhere read that Adrien is meant to be “perfect” and that “the world has to change, not Adrien”. Huh. Well, keep your perfect little pretty boy, I’ll prefer the mischievous gremlin any day. Felix is not “perfect” and he doesn’t need to be to be a much more interesting character than Adrien and that’s why he’s a threat. Well, I’m not even sure all the writers hate him, could just be one person ().
Adrinette is a teenage romance that probably wouldn’t last and might even end in a nasty breakup, but Felinette is a power couple. They challenge each other but they could also work together - and I still think they might work together with Nino and then share custody over Adrien.
Felix, sighing: You’re spoiling him, Mari.
Marinette, defensive: I’m not!
Adrien, beaming with a pastry in hand: Yeah, she is!
Always so good to have a conversation with you
I think the MLB main fandom also have reasons to hate Felix)
It’s like that…
MLB 10-14 fandom: Felix? Faugh! He is bad boy!
MLB 15-17 fandom: Felix? Well, he is kind of smart and even cool, but he is a villain, so…
MLB 18-21 fandom: Felix? He is hot! He could definitely shake it all more, if they returned him to the show
MLB 20-30 fandom: Felix? Obviously he is the only clearly thinking there. I’m not even sure Marinette deserves him, but if she gets her head out if her butt, it could work.
MLB 30+ fandom: Adrien? Who is Adrien? Ohh, right, it’t Felix’s baby-brother who is still punished in his room while the big boy making kids with Marinette!..
Why the authors of Miraculous Ladybug hate Felix so much
It’s obvious that Felix is important — and they can’t deny it, and couldn’t even resist making him to be the reason of a big Ladybug’s failure in season 4 finals. And they left him in that scene looking at the burning Paris side by side with her anyway (the scene from PV-trailer, where Ladybug looks at the burning city together with Felix-Chat Noir).
Funny dynamics, isn’t it?
But why? Couldn’t they use Lila as a villain-type role? Or even Chloe?
And why did they even brought Felix back after saying that he won’t appear in the show?
On my opinion, the answer is purely psychological.
Felix is like a first born son to show, that they had to give away and someone else raised him…) — and that is why we often see Felix as an older sibling in fanfictions — because the fans intuitively feel his status.
Felix is more mature in comparison to a playful and sheltered Adrien, who of course took some hardness from his father (that we saw for example when he made Lila get Mari back to school and some other moments), but still much softer then Felix.
Adrien has his feminine side a little too developed sometimes. That’s how he gives the ruling role to Ladybug, for instance, although they start out as equal partners. And even when she becomes a Guardian, Chat Noir whines and suffers from her secrets instead of making a firm stand.
But also being so soft as Adrien! They even made him a princess to be saved! Come on! Is this what you expect from the leading male character?
So while Adrien is nice and all, he can never reach Felix’s potential of freedom and inner strength (not to be confused with the bravery, ‘cause that he has).
I think the authors of the show hate Felix for this, for being strong, self-sufficient, extremely smart, playful in his own way, but strict at the same time, taking from life what he wants and making decisions that he considers necessary. And with all that inner depth and outer freedom they had to refuse him. Give him up for sweet Adrien.
So now that they were aloud to bring him back to the show, they can’t stand but show his strength and importance, even making him an antihero (not the villain, btw, ‘cause he didn’t actually hurt anyone directly, but left to the hero’s fight their own fights, and played on their weaknesses in order to get what he wants.
After all — nobody asked Ladybug to give him that miraculous.
Felix also has a great relationship with his mother, which makes him potentially much more adequate in building relationships with a girl, while Adrien’s position would be distorted by rigidity (taken from his father) on the one hand and infantilism on the other.
To naive children for whom this show is made, Adrinette couple seems perfect, but in practice the two would not last long together. At the same time Felix would found the way to conquer Mari if he wanted to and found how to build a deep relationship. And with passion everything would be good as well.
That’s why I love to write Canon Felinette much more then even PV. I mean, PV are sweet and classic, but Canon Felix, who returned to the show as an antihero has just SO MUCH MORE potential.
I can see him as a strong man next to Marinette, with this girl changing the direction of his actions with her warm heart, and he can be that internally strong support that she really needs. Because while Adrien-Chat says the encouraging words based by his belief he n good, Felix would make sure that the good would happen, no matters the ways of reaching it.
He also wouldn’t stop by her rejections like Adrien did if he fell for any of Mari’s guises — I’d rather expect him to trick her into falling in love with him — until it wouldn’t be important why and how their romance started.
Because we saw that he is ready to play till the end to reach his goal, and not only with honest and direct methods that both Marinette and Adrien mostly use.
And Mari herself — who can still phones and dress funny to sneak to Adrien’s house — much closer to Felix’s way of acting, so honestly — they would understand each other much better then the “go the higher road” boy — once they would have a common goal.
So I see I went a little further then just the “why the MLB-authors hate Felix” topic, but it’s all about the same. Felix has a strong position to be at the leading male role in this show, and they feel it, and they’ll use him as such, even if they will have to turn him to the other side of the barricades.
Just because they cant let him go from their mind.
