hey I just want season 4 to end because it’s a mess and both marinette and adrien deserve happiness and therapy.
so, here’s my proposal:
finish the show so we can do a fan-led and funded (because there’s like a ton of people in the fandom) remake with help from the great fanfic authors! let’s do a fix-it show where the characters are written consistently and with care and development, actual lore, and stuff!
idk just an idea because kuro neko just– I don’t even know anymore
As @tally_doodles from Instagram said so eloquently:but think about how sick it’s gonna look with them standing next to eachother like “yeh i’ve got The hottest date here periodt”
Or the adrinette fanart at the met gala that took so many hours with so many details because I don’t have any self-control. I used as reference some designs by Jean Paul Gaultier, David Koma and Dolce & Gabbana. But at the end of the day, let’s all pretend they’re Gabriel Agreste pieces of clothing and that these two are on a damn hot celebrity date.
a request for a romantic dance from @dimes1. supposed to be a simple drawing of a tango, but halfway through it became a waltz bathed in sunset light. (I heard a lot of wildest dream during the process and it influenced more than I thought) I was quite surprised because I usually avoid drawing with bolder play of lights and shadows because I don’t feel safe enough or when I try, I don’t think the result is beautiful. but I don’t know, I just loved the result. I think it was so romantic and intimate, like a movie.
I don’t know why, but the idea of roles reversed really wins me over.
since reflekdoll i’ve been thinking about what it would be like if everything were upside down from the start. Marinette a famous model who works for gabriel, received the miraculous black cat, who not so secretly has a crush on her crime-fighting partner, Misterbug.
And Adrien, a boy who is trying to get over the loss of his mother and father’s absence with work, balancing his double life with the miraculous of the ladybug, while having a crushing crush on his beautiful classmate, Marinette.
i don’t know, i love this plot. this cartoon is about adrien’s reaction to seeing his love of life posing as a goddess in a magazine and how he would freak out about it.
well I couldn’t resist, desire and my fertile imagination didn’t let me think of anything but a fae prince and a semi fae who would kick ass even the prince in question.
the big focus here for me was the clothes, I wanted to explore more mainly the prince costumes of Adrien, personally I see him wearing a lot of the Cardan Greenbriar wardrobe, black, black and glamour. using plenty of silver, and gold for royal celebrations.
Marinette’s clothes are common and daring. most with an opening in the back for her wings, wearing a guard combat outfit that purges the akumas, inspired by insect wings and patches of sheer fabric because nudity is common for fairies. I like to imagine that Marinette idolizes the High King (known as Gabriel) although no one knows he is responsible for all the evil in the realm, and loves to incorporate butterflies into his clothes as a way to honor him.
ps: oh yes, INCLUDES A CAT’S TAIL, YES. THAT’S RIGHT
Hi, look here again bringing mlb. This time Marichat. I saw the context of this drawing somewhere on pinterest and decided to redo it my way. It took a bit of work, I love their expressions lol. If you know what design I’m talking about and who the artist is, please repost giving credit to him.
After many hours here it is. A small version of the frozer episode, where in fact, it’s Adrien who looks bad at seeing marinette with someone else, but he wonders why. Maybe I’m a drama-hungry fan, but anyway, I’d love to see this version.
Vesperia and Queen Bee. Two queens, reigning in the same hive.
I just saw queen banana and when I realized I was already drawing these two sisters with the same miraculous (although I like the transformation of Zoe, my favorite is still Chloe’s) looking forward to what awaits them.
Here’s what to do to make these empty months pass in a healthyway:
-pick 3 animated (or not) series
-watch one episode of the one you chose first
-when you’ve finished, start the other one
For example let’s say the series you have picked have 10 episodes each season and 4 seasons in total (i’m just pretending that you chose an animated serie)
You will pass the first 4 months watching other series and maybe even joining their fandom, trying new things is always good!
Other months, you will watch and episode of Miraculous Ladybug every day and read a fanfic every week.
When you finish watching them, there will be only two and a half months till season 4
That’s approximately when summer holiday starts
Trust me, time flies very fast in summer :)
Good luck! I will do this myself too! Also here are a few suggestions for animated series:
I think the only way the reveal could stick before Hawkmoth is defeated, is for Gabriel to be revealed as Hawkmoth first. If LB/CN know who their enemy is, they could reveal to each other and work to keep the truth from their now known enemy. Turn the tables from EphemeralandChat Blanc.
The plan: partial Hawkmoth reveal, Adrien knows what he’s dealing with at home, all cards on the table for a full love square reveal, then mastermind the Hawkmoth takedown. Endgame.
Against the sentimonster theory and theorizing the directionality of the shows endgame:
In reaction to all of the Adrien!Sentimonster theories, I really hope the show doesn’t go there. As someone who grew up in a controlling and verbally abusive household, I think Adrien’s reactions to 1. getting told to do something by his father, 2. pushing back, 3. having his father speak even more firmly and decisively (while happening to rub his ring), and then 4. acquiescing are very true of abuse. Adrien is only 14-15. He’s lived a very sheltered life and right now, his father is all he really has in terms of traditional family. He knows that his father was/is greatly hurt by the “absence” of Emilie and is “doing what he can.” (Irl Gabriel is a garbage human). But to Adrien, Gabriel is his hurting but nevertheless controlling father. So I really hope the show would not go down the sentimonster path. It would simultaneously increase the horror of Adrien’s situation as a true pawn (and not just a model and spokesman for his father’s brand) and semi-negate Gabriel’s crimes as a child abuser. Part of the wonder of Adrien’s character is by all accounts he could thematically be the villain. Abused, missing mother, destruction abilities, bad luck. But that’s not who he is. He hasn’t been corrupted by his father’s blind ambition. Unless he was created by Emilie directly from her love, it doesn’t fit for him not to fully change to Gabriel’s will. And as we know from Voldemort, beings created through misguided love aren’t sustainable. I can’t see the sentimonster theory ending any other way then Adrien “dying.” Or at minimum forever being at risk of being controlled again, which is not a life he would want. I would hate for the show to go that way for Adrien’s sake.
Instead of that theory, what we have is a great on-screen depiction of daily micro-controlling abuse. Refuse, get overruled, acquiesce. We constantly see Adrien’s desire for freedom and validation and love outside of the home. The close bonding to the people who do truly love him. And a love for the parent who abuses him, like making excuses for Gabriel’s warped reasoning. This is something that may take a lifetime for Adrien to overcome; never mind his father also being Hawkmoth. He already has enough on his plate, let the boy be happy.
The ring rubbing could simply just be a habit/tick of Gabriel’s. When he needs parenting authority, he rubs his ring, thinking of his wife, who doubtless would know how to converse with Adrien better. We don’t see Hawkmoth rubbing his ring under his supersuit when he needs strength, it’s just with Adrien. When in doubt as a parent specifically, he invokes his wife’s metaphorical aid. (If not this I have another theory on this, see below**).
On the Endgame:
While speaking of Gabriel, after the double confirmation from Chat Blanc and now Ephemeral that Ladybug and Chat Noir can’t reveal their identities without Hawkmoth finding out eventually, I think the only way the reveal could stick beforeHawkmoth is defeated, is for Gabriel to be revealed as Hawkmoth first. If Chat Noir and/or Ladybug secretly find out who Hawkmoth is, you bet your ass Ladybug would be swooping into Adrien’s window to take him away from that monster. Hawkmoth won’t go down easy so I don’t think it will be a reveal and bam he’s in jail. The man has minimum two secret rooms in his house and countless resources at his disposal. If the pair know who their enemy is, they could reveal to each other and keep the truth from their now known enemy. As the show has now repeatedly confirmed, it won’t work if LB/CN don’t know what civilian to keep the secret from. Both times he found out and then was able to plan to use it against them, it was due to his actions as Gabriel and found out as himself/from Natalie, not during a fight as Hawkmoth where it would be fixed with the ladybugs. If they know, they can lie better. Keep the secret better. (And hopefully also get Adrien away from Gabriel). But also, as the fight scenes showed in Ephemeral, LB/CN are stronger when the truth is (even partially) out there. They will need their fully united strength to defeat Hawkmoth. Based on the rules the show has given so far, that’s the only way I can see a reveal going before Hawkmoth’s defeat. Hawkmoth reveal, Adrien knows what he’s dealing with at home, all cards on the table for a full reveal, then mastermind the Hawkmoth takedown. Having a partial/full LB/CN reveal led to Hawkmoth winning and making the Wish. Revealing him first would accordingly serve to turn the tables in LB/CN’s favor. And maybe that’s the show’s endgame.***
** Additional rings theory: either an incomplete but still powerful Miraculous with influence based powers (we’ve seen the two together but not both on one person I believe, or maybe there is more of the set). Or a copy of a miraculous or else some other powerful object outside of the miraculous that grants similar powers of influence and control. We know there are other Miraculous and other objects of power in world, so I could totally vibe with it being something else ancient and powerful outside of the miraculous/Sentimonsters. Further, Adrien is the only person who really says no to his father. Everyone else in Gabriel’s life is either on his payroll, pacified by his fame and wealth, or akumatized. The only time he needs extra influence is with his son. Hence conscious or not, he uses the ring to gain the upper hand.
***Had Gabriel one-sided revealed himself to Adrien in Felix, we might have been on this course already.
Why the authors of Miraculous Ladybug hate Felix so much
It’s obvious that Felix is important — and they can’t deny it, and couldn’t even resist making him to be the reason of a big Ladybug’s failure in season 4 finals. And they left him in that scene looking at the burning Paris side by side with her anyway (the scene from PV-trailer, where Ladybug looks at the burning city together with Felix-Chat Noir).
Funny dynamics, isn’t it?
But why? Couldn’t they use Lila as a villain-type role? Or even Chloe?
And why did they even brought Felix back after saying that he won’t appear in the show?
On my opinion, the answer is purely psychological.
Felix is like a first born son to show, that they had to give away and someone else raised him…) — and that is why we often see Felix as an older sibling in fanfictions — because the fans intuitively feel his status.
Felix is more mature in comparison to a playful and sheltered Adrien, who of course took some hardness from his father (that we saw for example when he made Lila get Mari back to school and some other moments), but still much softer then Felix.
Adrien has his feminine side a little too developed sometimes. That’s how he gives the ruling role to Ladybug, for instance, although they start out as equal partners. And even when she becomes a Guardian, Chat Noir whines and suffers from her secrets instead of making a firm stand.
But also being so soft as Adrien! They even made him a princess to be saved! Come on! Is this what you expect from the leading male character?
So while Adrien is nice and all, he can never reach Felix’s potential of freedom and inner strength (not to be confused with the bravery, ‘cause that he has).
I think the authors of the show hate Felix for this, for being strong, self-sufficient, extremely smart, playful in his own way, but strict at the same time, taking from life what he wants and making decisions that he considers necessary. And with all that inner depth and outer freedom they had to refuse him. Give him up for sweet Adrien.
So now that they were aloud to bring him back to the show, they can’t stand but show his strength and importance, even making him an antihero (not the villain, btw, ‘cause he didn’t actually hurt anyone directly, but left to the hero’s fight their own fights, and played on their weaknesses in order to get what he wants.
After all — nobody asked Ladybug to give him that miraculous.
Felix also has a great relationship with his mother, which makes him potentially much more adequate in building relationships with a girl, while Adrien’s position would be distorted by rigidity (taken from his father) on the one hand and infantilism on the other.
To naive children for whom this show is made, Adrinette couple seems perfect, but in practice the two would not last long together. At the same time Felix would found the way to conquer Mari if he wanted to and found how to build a deep relationship. And with passion everything would be good as well.
That’s why I love to write Canon Felinette much more then even PV. I mean, PV are sweet and classic, but Canon Felix, who returned to the show as an antihero has just SO MUCH MORE potential.
I can see him as a strong man next to Marinette, with this girl changing the direction of his actions with her warm heart, and he can be that internally strong support that she really needs. Because while Adrien-Chat says the encouraging words based by his belief he n good, Felix would make sure that the good would happen, no matters the ways of reaching it.
He also wouldn’t stop by her rejections like Adrien did if he fell for any of Mari’s guises — I’d rather expect him to trick her into falling in love with him — until it wouldn’t be important why and how their romance started.
Because we saw that he is ready to play till the end to reach his goal, and not only with honest and direct methods that both Marinette and Adrien mostly use.
And Mari herself — who can still phones and dress funny to sneak to Adrien’s house — much closer to Felix’s way of acting, so honestly — they would understand each other much better then the “go the higher road” boy — once they would have a common goal.
So I see I went a little further then just the “why the MLB-authors hate Felix” topic, but it’s all about the same. Felix has a strong position to be at the leading male role in this show, and they feel it, and they’ll use him as such, even if they will have to turn him to the other side of the barricades.
Just because they cant let him go from their mind.
Drama of life)
I prefer Felinette over Adrinette, because I feel like Marinette and Felix are more like equals than Marinette and Adrien. Adrien is attracted to strong, determined people (like LB and Kagami), because he’s not able to stand up against his dad. I don’t blame him, it’s not easy to stand up to your abuser, especially since it’s his dad and he wants to believe, that he loves him. But yes, even though he likes to think of him as Chat as some knight, he’s more like a damsel in distress.
That’s ok, I actually think the “Boys can be princesses in need of saving, too” thing good. Let him be in need of a saviour, that’s ok. But that also means that any romantic relationship he gets into (while beeing in need of saving) is doomed or will have at least major problems down the line (and I don’t trust Miraculous to deal with them appropriately). There would be a power imbalance and that can’t be a good foundation for any kind of happy long term relationship.
Felix on the other hand doesn’t sit around to wait for a hero to save him. He’s ready to make a deal with the devil if that’s what it takes. He and Marinette compliment each other, their strengths and weaknesses balance each other out. She has a strong moral compass and can set the goal and device a plan and he can make sure the plan goes through, maybe by using his own methods in some sort of grey area (well, as long as the goal is reached … You know )
I haven’t seen the finale, I just sort of know what happens, so I’m not sure if it’s just LB again or if Marinette also has some interactions with Felix, but there is a reason why Marinette and Felix are always bickering like an old married couple in fanfictions (I think I even once read one which wasn’t Felinette and they were still bickering): They have that energy and that’s so much more compelling than the way Marinette is constantly forced to stammer and stumble when interacting with Adrien.
And this is why the writers hate Felix: He’s a threat to Adrien’s status as male lead and as “perfect”. I somewhere read that Adrien is meant to be “perfect” and that “the world has to change, not Adrien”. Huh. Well, keep your perfect little pretty boy, I’ll prefer the mischievous gremlin any day. Felix is not “perfect” and he doesn’t need to be to be a much more interesting character than Adrien and that’s why he’s a threat. Well, I’m not even sure all the writers hate him, could just be one person ().
Adrinette is a teenage romance that probably wouldn’t last and might even end in a nasty breakup, but Felinette is a power couple. They challenge each other but they could also work together - and I still think they might work together with Nino and then share custody over Adrien.
Felix, sighing: You’re spoiling him, Mari.
Marinette, defensive: I’m not!
Adrien, beaming with a pastry in hand: Yeah, she is!
