Okay imagine if there was like a second sandboy episode only this time Ladybug’s worst fear is Chat Blanc
I mean the possibility of Sandboy 2 coming in season 4 is not that impossible considering the fact that they made 3 episodes of the old villains in s3 amirite??!!
Maybe I’m slow but I just watched Puppeteer 2 for the first time and I am freaking out! I have not seen any posts about this and I’m not convinced I’m the only person who saw this!
So about 5 mins into the episode Adrien and the others enter an elevator on the floor of celebrities. And there is a moment where we are shown camera footage of them being replayed
We know this is the celebrity floor because we can see the wax figure of Chloe’s dad on the right.
This scene is so out of place in the episode and the only moment we are shown that there are cameras in the building. So why was it even relevant in the episode at all? Why is the fact that a camera is in front of this elevator relevant?
Later, when Adrien goes to play his prank on Marinette we see the same wax figure behind him.
So we know that when they were attacked they were on the same floor that has a camera directly in front of the elevator…
The elevator they both transformed in.
Please send me posts about this! I have not seen any posts about this!
What if Nathalie is a senti created by Emilie because she was dying? And the reason Nathalie looked worried in the trailer is because fixing the Peacock miraculous means she won’t exist anymore?
Upon first inspection it seems like her miraculous tool should be her tail… whatever it is. After all, there’s nothing obvious sitting on her back or hip like the other users have.
I don’t think it’s the tail because I can’t identify it as an actual specific object like the other tools. It doesn’t look like bolas or a whip or anything, so could it be that those three balls are the tool and her tail is just a belt holding them? Could they be juggling balls or something? I’ve seen fan designs from before we knew anything about Tigresse of the tiger miraculous being circus themed, and juggling balls could be used to trip someone or as projectile weapons.
Another possibility is that her gauntlet is the tool. I haven’t seen anyone else mention this yet, but it looks like she only has claws on one hand; the black one. When she slashes the air, both give off light, but I managed to screenshot her open hands in the part where she makes her tail.
As you can see, the left one is unremarkable, while the right, where the miraculous is, is bejeweled with sharp gold claws, but ends at her forearm. Maybe this glove is her tool.
The three balls on the end make the tail definitely seem to be some type of tool to me, that type of decoration is not normal. I’m 50% sure it could be a bolas of some type, and if it’s not that it’s likely a whip.
However I also remember someone once saying something about the leaked concept art (not the promo image I mean actually concept art) and how the tail reminded them of a cat toy?
The glove being so clawed and decorated, though, does raise a point that it might actually be the item.
Basically that’s four options, 3 of them the tail.
I don’t know if it’s lazy or clever, but it seems the Tiger weapon MIGHT be a homage to Thundercats’ Tygra weapon
It is a “handheld” that extends inthe whip thingie, with the three balls either remaining together or becoming a bit separated, becoming essentially a cat nine o’ tails.
Of interest is that Tygra also used the whip to become invisible
WAIT A FREAKING MINUTE DOES THAT MEAN THE TIGER IS GONNA BE A FREAKING THUNDERCATSREFERENCE?!?!
I have never seen Thundercats but oh chaos from what you’re saying…this might just be it.
@sparklyaxolotlstudent I’ve never seen Thundercats so this never occurred to me but… that seems really correct??? Wow. Invisibility is the most popular theory for Tigresse’s power, and it makes perfect sense considering Juleka’s personality, tigers being associated with stealth, and Reflekta’s power of hiding in plain sight juxtaposed with flamboyancy.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she activates her power the same way as Tygra because that’s exactly how Multimouse activated Multitude. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see Polymouse properly activate her power with a “special cutscene”, but maybe she’ll do it too. Or maybe she doesn’t do that because the Extra™️ dances don’t fit her Get Down to Business style.
I’ve been working on a miniseries of theory posts about how every superhero’s themes are in reference to something from pop culture or mythology. I’m trying to use these connections to predict what they might be able to do. So far, I’ve only posted Minotaurox and Coq Courage, but I’m working on the last two we don’t have info on, and once season four ends, I want to explain every reference in every hero. I think what you just said might be what Tigresse Pourpe’s reference is. That leaves only Polymouse for me to figure out, and it feels like her reference is on the tip of my brain.
Upon first inspection it seems like her miraculous tool should be her tail… whatever it is. After all, there’s nothing obvious sitting on her back or hip like the other users have.
I don’t think it’s the tail because I can’t identify it as an actual specific object like the other tools. It doesn’t look like bolas or a whip or anything, so could it be that those three balls are the tool and her tail is just a belt holding them? Could they be juggling balls or something? I’ve seen fan designs from before we knew anything about Tigresse of the tiger miraculous being circus themed, and juggling balls could be used to trip someone or as projectile weapons.
Another possibility is that her gauntlet is the tool. I haven’t seen anyone else mention this yet, but it looks like she only has claws on one hand; the black one. When she slashes the air, both give off light, but I managed to screenshot her open hands in the part where she makes her tail.
As you can see, the left one is unremarkable, while the right, where the miraculous is, is bejeweled with sharp gold claws, but ends at her forearm. Maybe this glove is her tool.
I’ve seen a few people mention this connection and I believe it’s correct: Coq Courage is based around the symbol of the rooster in Japanese mythology. It’s believed that a rooster awoke the sun goddess, Amaterasu, and pulled her from her cave. Because of this, roosters symbolize courage.
For that reason, I’ve theorized in the past that the power of the rooster is illumination since roosters “bring” the sun, so the ability might be controlling light in some way, which connects to his akuma, but it’s possible that it’s something to do with courage because of his name. What synonyms for courage end in “ion”? Uh… let me use Thesaurus.com here… “determination” or “resolution”? I wouldn’t call these exact synonyms but they could be candidates too.
(The screenshot of the intro is taken from Alfrely on YouTube’s s4 opening analysis video where they stitched the frames together since you can’t see much of him at once)
When I first saw him I was confused about his pose. It looked he was whip nae-naeing or something. After an embarrassingly long time I figured out he’s probably striking a kung fu style pose. (I flipped the second image for the sake of matching more closely). Shaolin monk robes, which are often orange, could be an inspiration for his costume, although his “pants” rise higher, going all the way above the knee. Either way, this design represents chicken legs so they might’ve taken some liberties to convey that.
I think the most popular theory for his tool is some variation of archery equipment, which would be sick, so I kinda hope that’s right, but it’s not really in line with what we’ve seen from the rest of the heroes so far. Support I’ve heard for that theory is that the miraculous is a thumb ring and thumb rings can be used in archery, and while we’ve never seen the ring in its true form, we’ve seen Marinette and Chloe’s disguised forms, and it’s not that type of ring. It’s just ornamental. That being said, the shape to the left of his torso that you’d think is his arm looks very inorganic/straight-edged and it dips in at the top, so it might actually be a quiver. Or it could be a different tool. Or he might have some sort of armor on his arm(s). Once again, there’s no predicting tools for sure. Sometimes they’re straightforward, but most of the time they’re supremely random. I do like the idea of long-distance though, because most of the current heroes are close-quarters, and as an akuma he uses a lot of projectiles while standing in one place.
Back to the illumination thing. Here’s some random bs I can connect back to that which may be foreshadowing or it may be me making stuff up. In Horrificator, Nathaniel is holding up a light reflector on set. It’s super minor but I thought it was interesting since he usually hangs in the back doing his own thing when the whole group does something together. The logo on his shirt is a reference to a real band called Magma, and this is kind of a stretch, but he gets explosively angry something something bright scarlet hair something somethingfiresomething light. Also look at angey Orikko hehe cute.
The biggest source of evidence would be his akuma. As Evillustrator, his biggest weakness was darkness because he needed a light source to use his powers. All the other classmate akumas/heroes so far have displayed their respective hero themes as akumas in some way, even if it was by subverting or twisting it, so I think this is a fair connection to make.
This concludes my analysis. Let me know who I should do next!
Edit: stuff worth mentioning that I only thought of afterwards. 1) I remembered @zivazivc ‘s theory for the tool being badminton equipment. I like that one because it would fit with the theme of toys, it’s random but there’s a connection, and it’s long-distance like I said above. 2) I think it’s very interesting that his silhouette is cut off the way it is. Everyone else except Ryuko, who is totally covered, has their head showing in their section. Even Traquemoiselle, who is almost completely covered, has an ear and some hair. But with Coq Courage they only show his torso/leg. Maybe they weren’t finished modeling him before the intro deadline, or maybe they’re deliberately hiding something.
Edit 2: okay it’s been months since I posted this but I saw someone suggest that his tool could be a kite and I actually really like that. It’s unique, fits under “toys”, and it feels appropriate. I recall Astruc saying that none of the miraculous grant the power of true flight, which only power ups can give, but a kite could represent the gliding type of “flight” chickens are capable of the way the Spider-Man-like yo-yo and top represent the way ladybugs and bees can fly. It’d also tie back to Reverser when Nath built a kite strong enough to support Chat in the air out of a bunch of random crap on a brief elevator ride. Seriously, why does no one ever talk about that?
Also, completely unrelated, but I always see people drawing the rooster miraculous looking similar to Marinette’s disguise mode since we’ve only ever seen her and Chloe’s, but I’d like to remind everyone that Mari’s camo tends to be very minimalistic. Hers has one chain between two simple rings with little hearts on them, but Chloe’s has two chains in a triangle, and the rings have one small honeycomb (top) and one big one (bottom). I think the real deal probably looks more similar to Chloe’s, especially since it needs to have five sections that flash when the holder has to de-transform, which I predict would be on the panel(s).
So I’m sitting here, thinking about the heroes we haven’t seen yet in light of Gloob’s constant teasing, and the possible themes and inspirations for them. A lot of the heroes we’ve already seen have themes connected to or entirely based off various mythology, and I’ll make a post about as many of those references as I can think of after s4 is over. So I’m using this train of logic to try and figure out something about the rest of them. And I feel something familiar at the edge of my brain about Stompp…
I have a straight up brain blast. All the way back to good ol’ American public elementary school where they drilled this into us for some reason. The United States folktale of Paul Bunyan and Babe the Blue Ox. (The art below is by Angus McBride)
Paul Bunyan is a legendary lumberjack, superhuman in size and strength. His best friend is a blue ox named Babe that he rescued from a snowbank and raised on his own, growing from a sickly “babe” into a strong giant as well.
I always thought it was interesting that they chose to make Stompp blue, at first thinking that they and Roaar were just changed to unnatural bright colors to avoid having half the cast be boring shades of brown-ish and orange-ish since Kaalki, Xuppu, Orikko, and Barkk take up umber brown, yellow, orange, and sienna brown. I bet this is a part of it too, but the choice of blue specifically for the ox paired with Ivan and Stoneheart makes me think there’s more to it.
Stompp is easily one of THE cutest kwamis imo,,, Anyways, Stoneheart’s power is growing in size when he gets hit. I’ve seen people theorize that Minotaurox’s power will also have to do with growing in size. It would parallel the akuma as well as Polymouse’s power that allows her to shrink down and Horrificator’s power of growing and shrinking in response to others’ fear. Before, I stayed away from theories like this because I thought it was too similar to the akuma. Most of the hero powers are tangentially related to their respective akumas powers, but usually not in a way you could predict. But, when you take the parallels and the myth into account, it admittedly does make a lot of sense. If this is true, then I hope there’s more to it than just super size and strength, like how Polymouse can clone, not just shrink.
I made a half-joke in one of my previous theory-type posts that I hope one of the heroes has a giant axe. If anyone would have one, it would be Ivan since Paul Bunyan is a lumberjack. That being said, the good guys so far all have tools you can’t really do serious damage with, like toys, musical instruments, and defensive weapons. Also sometimes they’re really random. It’s near impossible to predict these correctly.
One last thing. The shapes around Minotaurox’s torso and arms in the silhouette remind me a bit of his Kitty Section stage costume. This isn’t anything serious, but I think it’d be neat if he took inspiration from Marinette’s design for his hero costume.
I can’t wait to see him appear in the show, and let me know which other new heroes you’d like to see a separate theory post about!
Edit: I just realized that I never mentioned my theory for his theme. My favorite one I’ve seen is fortification.
