Fun fact, the last two part of the dialogue is actually localization exclusive lol.
in the original JP dialogue, Maya instead calls him a “hard-working prosecutor” instead of “Nick’s secret fanboy” as an attempt to cheer him up by appreciating him somewhat (lol).
VERY VERY rough translation :
so anyway localization-exclusive fanservice strikes again, god bless.
Did I call my nearest newspaper seller to see if they had the SF chronicle and then get my mother to drive me there at 10:45 just to get the Wrightworth newspaper?
Phoenix and Edgeworth’s perfume merch description shares the same ending-line.
rough translation :
Phoenix’s :
“A gentle and clean water-marine scent that gradually forms a scent of raspberries and peaches. The passion for truth is in its lingering musk.”
Edgeworth’s :
“Elegant floral scent, reminiscent of the sharpness of logic and noble elegance. A vivid contrast between citrus at first and then flowers second. Gradually forms a sweet scent of chrysanthemum(?). The passion for truth is in its lingering musk.”
Bonus : the way they arranged the perfumes for display purpose. (defense and prosecutors are actually from two different perfume sets)
The blue-silver knight clip on his tie from one of its early concepts, possibly referencing Edgeworth’s custom chess set and similarities to Edgeworth’s clothing design in Phoenix’s final design.
“It is one of the severest tests of friendship to tell your friend his faults. So to love a man that you cannot bear to see a stain upon him and to speak painful truth through loving words, that is friendship.” - Henry W. Beecher
source : Gyakuten Saiban Fanbook by MediaWorks, presumably 1st issue
heyo! a little bit of extra interesting info about this particular quote,
while it is true its Henry W. Beecher’s quote, the statement in this pageisactuallyareference to it and not an entirely direct word-per-word translation.
try translating each JP lines yourself as there’s actually some extra words put in there thatmay pique your interest hahaha.
i’ll edit the original post to signify this.
here’s the quote in text :
友人にその欠点を教えるのは、
友情のもっともきびしい試練の1つである。
もし相手に腹が立つとか持たらしいというのなら、
つかつかと近づいて激しい言葉を浴びせるのは 何でもない。
だが友人を愛するあまり、
友人がにけがれるのを見るに耐えきれず、
その痛ましい真実を愛の言葉で告げる。
これこそ真の友情である。
しかしそうした友人を持っているものは ごく僅かしかいない。
われわれの敵はつねに、
そのままでいいとしか考えない、
剣の先を突きつけながら。
i notice this post got quite the attention so i’ll inform you of this again that the words above are notdirect translation of Beecher’s quote, but its paraphrasing it.
Here’s a translation to the words above in its entirety (and what they imply) :
“It is one of the severest tests of friendship to tell your friend their faults and shortcomings.
If you are annoyed with someone, or if they seem to have a problem with you and if you are angry at them, its easy to just walk up to them and give them a hard time.
But when you love your friend so much, you can’t bear seeing them in pain, you tell them painful truth through loving words. That is what true friendship is all about.
However, only a few people are lucky enough to have such a friend. Our enemies would think that its okay for us to remain the same,
While they’d point their swords at our backs”
as you can see, some of the lines were not in the original Henry W. Beecher’s quote,
however it actually gave the quote thats paraphrased even more depth as it gives the audience the perspective of Edgeworth’s position and Phoenix’s care for him.
how Edgeworth was lucky to have Phoenix as his friend, who cares for him so much he’d rather confront him with painful truths directly about his errors through‘loving words’ instead of just letting Edgeworth succumb to the dark of his Demon Prosecutor ways that they both know would eventually hurt Edgeworth himself in the end.
“There’s no denying they’d make an extremely handsome couple”
Source : Issue #72 of Nintendo Gamer magazine, February 2012
oh yea just a heads up, “Nintendo Gamer” was a gaming magazine published in the UK that mainly covered Nintendo-based video game consoles and software.
so the magazine were not directly words from officially-licensed Nintendo themselves, but only focused on Nintendo gaming in general, reviewing games and having funny articles.
just to clarify since ppl got carried away and think Mx.Nintendo themselves said it askjjkas-
So Phoenix’s favorite food, in case you don’t know, is Apples, all of Phoenix’s cafe menus are all apple-flavored/themed.
Thats normal and all but seems like theres rumor that he really like crunching through all thatred stuff huh? especially with frills on itand he bit into it like its his enemy.//lol
(image above from @/riamuyumemi on Twitter)
Edgeworth having a slice of apple on his crepe thooo-
Note :
The word 《赤いヤツ》AKA“red stuff” has double meaning with“red one/red guy”
The word 《ガリガリ》 means both “crunching through (food)” in this context but can also mean “obsessively/selfishly”, thus the alternate text can have an alternate meaning such as : “It must feel nice obsessively/selfishly eating that "red guy”.
So Phoenix’s favorite food, in case you don’t know, is Apples, all of Phoenix’s cafe menus are all apple-flavored/themed.
Thats normal and all but seems like theres rumor that he really like crunching through all thatred stuff huh? especially with frills on itand he bit into it like its his enemy.//lol
(image above from @/riamuyumemi on Twitter)
Edgeworth having a slice of apple on his crepe thooo-
Note :
The word 《赤いヤツ》AKA“red stuff” has double meaning with“red one/red guy”
The word 《ガリガリ》 means both “crunching through (food)” in this context but can also mean “obsessively/selfishly”, thus the alternate text can have an alternate meaning such as : “It must feel nice obsessively/selfishly eating that "red guy”.
Bonus : Edgeworth delivered a basket of Apples in one of possible scenarios of the Forbidden Hospital Scene (from AA spin off manga, i forgot which one oops but i remember its 4-panelled ajksjasj-)
Most popular court/investigation partner-combos and which do the people want to see more of in future investigations? (multiple answers allowed)
Translation of titles :
Phoenix Wright & Miles Edgeworth (The fateful rivals & childhood friends combo!) – 230 votes
Phoenix Wright & Maya Fey (Attorney and assistant, straight-man and jokester!?) – 140 votes
Miles Edgeworth & Franziska von Karma (The presumptuous prosecutors combo!) – 71 votes
Rough translation of readers/voters’s comments under Phoenix and Edgeworth :
The strongest duo to pursue the truth, not to win or to lose the trial (30s / Male)
I want to see a cooperative play with these two who trust each other! (20s / Female)
I would like them to investigate together in the investigation part. like in AAI series, with these two walking around !? (20s / Female)
The relationship of two close friends who are also rivals is such a classic. Although they are adversaries in terms of their positions, they still share the same attitude to investigate the truth of the case. I’m always fascinated by the interaction between the two. (30s / Male)
I started playing Ace Attorney because I like these two. (20s / Female)
source : Famitsu popularity poll 2016
as of the making of this post, Phoenix and Edgeworth has only investigated together ONCE in the mainline games.
Most popular court/investigation partner-combos and which do the people want to see more of in future investigations? (multiple answers allowed)
Translation of titles :
Phoenix Wright & Miles Edgeworth (The fateful rivals & childhood friends combo!) – 230 votes
Phoenix Wright & Maya Fey (Attorney and assistant, straight-man and jokester!?) – 140 votes
Miles Edgeworth & Franziska von Karma (The presumptuous prosecutors combo!) – 71 votes
Rough translation of readers/voters’s comments under Phoenix and Edgeworth :
The strongest duo to pursue the truth, not to win or to lose the trial (30s / Male)
I want to see a cooperative play with these two who trust each other! (20s / Female)
I would like them to investigate together in the investigation part. like in AAI series, with these two walking around !? (20s / Female)
The relationship of two close friends who are also rivals is such a classic. Although they are adversaries in terms of their positions, they still share the same attitude to investigate the truth of the case. I’m always fascinated by the interaction between the two. (30s / Male)
I started playing Ace Attorney because I like these two. (20s / Female)
in the german version when maya and will powers discuss edgeworths and phoenix relationship he asked “Ist dieser Typ… Ihr Freund?” which means “is that guy your friend?” BUT friend and boyfriend means basically the same in German so when you are referring to your “Freund” it can be both. And because of the whole unnecessary feelings thing I thought powers though edgeworth is phoenix boyfriend lol.
(conclusion in the german version the scene sounds even gayer)
Two of guest arts from the Gyakuten Saiban Fanbook.
the left was made by Tatana Kana from NITRO+CHIRAL (yes, the same company behind Dramatical Murder), Tatana Kana was the artist for the VN BL game on Steam and PS2, “Togainu No Chi/Lost Blood” made by the same company.
the second guest art was made by Ellie Mamahara, as you can tell from the artstyle, she’s a BL doujin artist with works such as “Alley of First Love” and“Wisteria Manor”
Interviewer: And in the eyes of Naruhodō, Mitsurugi is…
Takumi:I’m sure he thinks Mitsurugi is a pretty cute guy (laugh). Mitsurugi’s characteristics only really started to show from Gyakuten Saiban 2 (Ace Attorney 2 - Justice for All) on.
everybody knows this iconic narumitsu hinting by Shu Takumi himself but i think more people need to know the actual context in what this “cute guy” actually means.
so adding extra context, this was the previous question. (sourced from gyakutensaibanlibrary)
so Shu Takumi projects himself a lot onto Phoenix when writing his game, and in his perspective Phoenix would think Edgeworth is cute.
that we know already, but what does he actually mean by “cute guy”? Edgeworth’s appearance being good looking?
hm.. well, knowing that its Takumi himself who’s looking at things through Phoenix’s eyes, i think theres a much more higher possibility.
and that its not necessarily his handsome face, but its Edgeworth’s demeanoris cute.
in the same interview, Takumi reveals that Edgeworth was originally this perfect stiff character with no flaws that is untilhe saw one of Suekane Kumiko’s comics with Edgeworth depicted as a Steel Samurai fan. due to this, Takumi realized that Edgeworth is much more interesting when he has this different sides to him, having “weaknesses” makes him “cuter”.
in conclusion? Edgeworth being a Steel Samurai geek gives such an opposite vibe to Edgeworth’s character, “double-faced”, he has stiff and cold manners in court and yet also has more vulnerable and human side in a form of being such a nerd, thus “a cute guy”.
so “cute” doesn’t necessarily mean by his looks per say, but “cute” like looking at an excited puppy type of cute, like looking at a sneezing kitten type of cute.
TL;DR, Phoenix is aware of Edgeworth’s gap-moe and he thinks its cute.
Source of interview : Gyakuten Saiban Fanbook, ISBN4-8402-2446-3,
“It is one of the severest tests of friendship to tell your friend his faults. So to love a man that you cannot bear to see a stain upon him and to speak painful truth through loving words, that is friendship.” - Henry W. Beecher
source : Gyakuten Saiban Fanbook by MediaWorks, presumably 1st issue
heyo! a little bit of extra interesting info about this particular quote,
while it is true its Henry W. Beecher’s quote, the statement in this pageisactuallyareference to it and not an entirely direct word-per-word translation.
try translating each JP lines yourself as there’s actually some extra words put in there thatmay pique your interest hahaha.
the words from this page paraphrased and is a direct reference to Henry W. Beecher’s quote which is :
“It is one of the severest tests of friendship to tell your friend his faults. So to love a man that you cannot bear to see a stain upon him and to speak painful truth through loving words, that is friendship.” - Henry W. Beecher
source : Gyakuten Saiban Fanbook by MediaWorks, presumably 1st issue
