Me (an autistic lesbian) watching stranger things: “wow robin . You’re too relatable right now. ”
Tell me that you’re [ not -neurotypical] : and haven’t had this convo irl?Lie to me. I DARE YOU
I’m loving the new season so far. On ep 3 right now- so much to analyze(tell you guys ,all about it later) . Back to ignoring tumblr and avoiding spoilers. See ya later.
May be wrong but whatever XD I will mention movies said to inspire s4 as well. Also throwing in some of my crack theories in the small chance they’re right. This will be just a quick rundown of ideas. I will also briefly discuss leaks, merch etc so just warning you now. To not read-if you don’t want to see that.
- Eddie may die . he has a skull with lighting on it (on his d&d book). This is probably hinting he dies in the (lightning filled) upsidedown. Billy had a skull tatoo before he passed away, ( so it has precedence) . Eddie may distract the bats with his guitar (inhibiting their echolocation) and sacrificing himself to protect the others. maybe another hint he dies is how bob died and was a vampire for Halloween (vampires = bats /un-dead).
- satanic panic is alive and well, and false rumors about the hellfire club(being linked to chrissy or others de*ths spread). S3 foreshadows the satanic panic (and it’s historical ties to d&d). In the 80s (on 20/20) was literally a “news report” claiming d&d was correlated to :Satanism, witchcraft, necromancy, m*rder, being gay (rolls eyes the homoph*bia of conflating that with the others), and many other things. The gang probably first gets involved to clear eddie and Co.
- I feel like we will hate Jason and Freddie. My guess is Freddie with his school newspaper and Jason with his popularity help spread the satanic panic and witch hunts. Their names are probably from the villains in the freddy vs Jason franchises . Which is why I think we will dislike them. Also maybe a weird coincidence but in friday the 13th: Jason and the heroine chris were enemies. Despite in st, jason/chrissy dating. Could just be an Easteregg but maybe Jason is a jerk of a bf to chrissy. We also have nancy and Freddie working on the newspaper- and given how elmstreet is inspo. Freddie and nancy probably don’t get along. Similar to freddy kreuger and nancy thompson -in elmstreet.
- appears like max and Co break into the counselor’s office. My guess is: they look at the psych notes of the missing students for leads . Maybe that’s where the drawing of the creel house comes in? Chrissy or someone else may have had nightmares of the house before they’re attacked by vecna. The ripped drawing is also a callback to nancy finding the ripped photo of the demogorgan and later investigating it. So the drawing probably is what causes robin and nancy go to pennhurst (mental hospital) ,in addition to the creel house.
- already explained 2 possible theories for vecna. Skip this bullet point if you want to avoid leaks. Ok so if leaks are true. My theory is then …henry creel, later peter ( who maybe changed his name to start fresh ) worked at hnl as a guard. And prob had powers and became vecna when trapped in upsideown. Since vecna is based on freddy k… St’s vecna’s backstory is probably based off the freeddy k comics. Freddy was a boy with ab*sive (step) dad, he was bullied because his dad was in an mental asylum (victor). He later becomes a dream-monster who targets kids with similar ab*sive backgrounds to himself. Explaining why the monsters targeted: Will, el, billy, max, chrissy etc. The clock immagery of the monsters- may be correlated to the m*rders and the cursed creel clock). maybe it’s like a metaphor for being stuck in the past ( to the creel m*rders)? “Wanting to turn back the clock” to a better time. Vecna also makes dreams based on peoples’ fears, secrets,etc. And s1-3 made direct references to Alice in wonderland/wizard of oz (which have dream worlds). And if vecna is a ruler of the upsidedown it could explain why the upsidedown monsters already mirrored the fears of el, hopper, and the byers boys in s1-3. Silent hill is st inspo: the alternate version of the town (silent hill) is filled with monsters and they reflect the tra*ma of various towns people. This alternate version of silent hill was first made by an ab*sed psychic kid . Apparently Peter can also manipulate minds /memories too which mirrors the mindflayer’s ability to do so. And I already explained this , plus the alternative crack theory that could be connected to the creels in part 2: about a time paradox/loop-Here.
- there’s most likely a lot of infighting in the government and that is shown via sullivan’s team attacking the cali/owen’s base. People think the sbp gang save her. But I think its more likely she uses the fighting between gov agencies as an opportunity to escape and head to Hawkins… maybe even hitchhike like s2.And she only reunites with sbp later. I also think el may have shaved her own head trying to “turn back the clock” to a time when she had powers while in the lab. She may try anything to regain her powers and help her friends. A few movies involve a character having a breakdown and cutting their hair (most likely El). She probably gets her powers back when in the sensory tank (called nina). Since the hnl-pre teaser has the opera song sung by nina - and the character NINA had repressed memories- El may recollect something before her powers reactivate (probably involving the lab massacre). In assasains creed: a character also sees their repressed memories/ past while in a water tank . Also I think it’s interesting that creel can mean ‘fish trap”. An nina can mean “enclosure of fish"” (and el is stuck in a tank like a poor fish in an aquarium). :(
- vecna forces El to have a vision of the rainbow room. The inception totem is a and eye imagery of El/vecna is a hint of this. What may be weird is the person playing chess looks like Will. But could be a coincidence. However it is weird that when max enters a vecna dream- the grave of billy changes to William. Or the fact the creel clock also says “williams”. linkhere
- I do wonder if jonathan and Will have vecna flashbacks of their pasts as well ,in part 2. Especially regarding lonnie. Because some s4 movies have trippy dreamscapes - one film “the cell”: involves a dream memory of an ab*sive, h*mophobic father hurting his young son. Bill and Ted’s bogus journey: teen turns into little kid, chased by giant rabbit monster, told he’s a horrible big brother, is harassed by older relative (in dream flashback)- reminds me of jonathan, etc. Also some trippy swing flashbacks - in “terminator 2 ” and “ enter the void” (so mike or Will?). I agree with 0aurelion-solo theory that Will’s true sight may let him eventually see past the illusions/break the code (of the dream) like Alan turing. Because in d&d truesight allows you to see past illusions.
- the fake name used for filming s4 was “ocerat”, an anagram for tareco- in d&d he’s a “wizard hunter”. He believes the world would be a better place if he could k*ll all wizards. He often would st*lk his victims for weeks and try to isolate them to attack them. He obviously isn’t a fan of El (a mage). But… is sullivan’s group just getting rid of the byers cause they know too much? Why not be subtle and make it look like an accident *like what they did to Hammond? Barb? Etc? Are they unaware El isn’t there? If sullivan’s crew attack the base and house at the same time: that would ring alarm bells for me, that something else is going on. Maybe the sbp crew doesn’t realize sullivan is after them for other reasons. I mean will is a “wizard” -could be a part 2 twist. And since Utah (suzie’s house) is between California and Indiana. It appears the sbp crew is going to Indiana maybe to warn their friends they are in the “eye of the storm”. A monoply card claimed suzie would help them find el… but idk if it will be that simple … maybe they learn El isn’t even at the base anymore. And or …
- crack theory: I still think there’s a strong chance suzie and her family may be spies and working for the gov. May betray the sbp gang initially. Theory and reasoning here. If not her- I do wonder if there is some other betrayal or spy. It’s a common theme in the s4 films. Even the s4 videos store has a movie poster about a undercoverspy gf , and another film poster about basketball.
- hopper’s imprisonment probably has parallels to el’s time in the lab (especially cause irl: soviets experimented on soviet prisoners in the “psychic armrace” ). But in the show they use the soviet prisoners to train and weaponize the demogorgan. If what david said is true: We probably see flashbacks of vietnam ,his dad,sara. Along with possibly solitary confinement in the prison etc. I think vietnam/prison scenes may be pretty messed up if in the show (just from the s4 movie selection). Historically the usa also did questionable experiments on vietnam soldiers as well. So his time in the war (buzzcut , being trained to be a weapon) probably echos el’s time being in the lab , and being trained to become a weapon/experiment.
- also not sure if it’s symbolic or something else. We see a Russian doll at the creel house. And in the st mobile game Victor’s favorite food is a Russian dish borscht. So is it just simple easterggs, are they of Russian descent - or is there some type of parallels/symbolism we will see later on in the season relating to the creels and the soviets. Perhaps all 3 storylines: lab , creels, and soviets are all linked via experimentation gone wrong.
-the creels probably will have parallels to: the byers and el (which we’ve already seen), along with max , maybe chrissy and her ab*sive mom. And I think I heard Eddie had an ab*sive dad too. So there may be parallels there as well…
- Max seems to be having nightmares connected to vecna- before they realize it’s supernatural in origin. She obviously is grieving and vecna’s pursuit of her probably is a metaphor of survivor’s guilt , tra*ma , etc. It’d be interesting and cool if Max and Nancy bonded over this commonality (since they both suffered through it). Wouldn’t it make sense for Nancy to be super protective of a red-head after what happened to Barb? Not sure if they’d do it- but it’d be nice if Nancy was like a mentor-friend to Max.
- Lucas’ pursuit of basketball and popularity echos how steve who was on the basketball team and learned popularity is over-rated. And being your authentic self is the best thing to do. I think Lucas’ is still very loyal to his friends even when on the team. But is initially torn. And quickly sides with his friends. Hopefully he gets some good characterization like s2.
- I think Hopper may escape on his own, he also may use fire as an escape method. We saw in the trailer- an explosion in a snow covered place. We already see hopper using a flamethrower etc. Also, there’s little evidence for it … I just worry the joyce/murray’s rescue mission won’t go as planned. It could. It just seems … too easy tbh. I kind of wonder if joyce is stuck in russia at the end of s4.because of a st comment of hers. Plus, their plane literally crashed so…
- I still wonder if in part 2: Will and el are captured at the end of the season by brenner (where he may have restarted his program at pennhurst mental asylum ). Or maybe Will goes with Lonnie and El goes with Brenner. Especially if joyce is m.ia. Mkultra historically did experiments in mental asylums. Lucas made a joke in s1 , that el is from pennhurst (foreshadowing?). There’s movies where questionable guardians, dead beat dads etc- got custody. Plus s4 films where psychiatrists do unethical supernatural experiments on patients.
-crack theory: I still wonder if chrissy’s death will be faked (and they find her in water like Will). And at the end of the season it’s revealed she’s at pennhurst (where Brenner may have restarted his program).Theory and reasoning here. Ofcourse 50/50 chance she may be another Heather but we will see.
-kali may return in s4 part 2 or s5. It was foreshadowed: Kali also wants to take down Brenner and suggested to El they work together to do so. Maybe they team up again?Not to mention in a season exploring El’s past: why not bring back Kali? Or maybe in s5 she helps the gang rescue El- if El’s in need of rescuing. Plus, in s4 bts: there was a pic of a guy that looked very similar to axel (Kali’s friend ) in Hawkins.
- not really a theory but alot of s4 films have plays, musical numbers, drawings, etc foreshadow huge plot points later. So obviously we will pay attention to the d&d game and anything similar for foreshadowing.
- alot of s4 films have a boy or boys be bullied due to h*mophobia so I feel like given how Will has been bullied in the past he may also be bullied similar to el (just for different reasons).especially after the Alan Turing project. Ofcourse mike and Robin may be bullied for similar rumors? But more likely Will , just given the fact he has a history of being bullied. Also a few films , the boy snaps and beats up the h*mophobic bully or the bullied kid snaps and attacks the bully over very very messed up jokes about him and his family. Whether it happens is hard to say. It may happen in s5 or 4 . Who knows.
- I think jonathan is struggling alot and argyle helps him. Maybe , and hopefully, we get more insight on Jonathan’s character and past because of it.
- based on the s4 films: the byers dinner scene is either going to be cute or dysfunctional as heck. Maybe be related to Will’s b day? We already know the creel dinner doesn’t go as planned - could be a loose parallel??
- part 1: most of the canon couples breakup /or struggle in their relationships. Part 1 probably has ambiguous byler scenes too. And Part 2 m*leven and others may break up.
- crack theory I hope is wrong and probably won’t happen. elmstreet dream warriors is said to inspire s4. In that film nancy tompson (who nancy wheeler is based on) is killed in a dream by freddy k (who vecna is based on) specifically after doing an investigation at a mental hospital -correlated to a character named Kirsten (chrissy?). I feel like the duffers love Nancy too much to do this(nor do this to any other original main). She’s my favorite girl in the show so I’d be really upset If it happened tbh. Probably have nothing to worry about. But just in case.
- and who is in front of the car on fire… honestly there’s so many possibilities. Fire was first associated with Will.But has frankly been associated with various other characters since then. So it could be theoretically anyone. Heck… there’s 2 s4 films that have someone (In a dream world) burn alive the fake-dream- version of their ab*sive relative. for all we know it’s simply a vecna dream. Could be Will or a different victim of vecna? Or just something more realistic we wouldn’t expect . Of course could be the more obvious predictable choice - since el has messed up cars before ,using her powers in s1 . We will just have to wait and see.
- 8 minute clip that was on youtube-skip if you haven’t seen it. we also saw the parallels between the m*rder scenes: with victor creel (at the house) and el (at the lab). We have shots of both El and Victor’s backs (as they stare at a window) and bodies are at their feet. It also reminds me of how Will’s back is shown as he stares at a window (while possessed). It Appears el/victor were either possessed during these events. For example when Will was possessed he also caused a massacre at hawkins lab-which could be a parallel to El. Or maybe victor/el were tricked by vecna/henry/peter into seeing things that weren’t there- and thus hurt innocent people. Some leaks say- el didn’t do anything and she was just framed. But I’m not sure tbh. It’s possible. I think it’d make more sense if it was one of the former explanations- just based on what’s in the clip (el smiling after wards). But again we will see.
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ID: [a lineup of eleven, max, Nancy, Robin, Erica, Joyce, and Chrissy from stranger things in that order (left to right). Each one is dressed as a different vocaloid. Eleven is miku, max is flower, Nancy is gumi, Robin is una, Erica is Rin, Joyce is Meiko, and Chrissy is Luka.] /End ID
Shitpost page + close up of wills shirt and the reference of said shirt
ID: [ a page of digitally drawn messy sketches of characters from stranger things four. They are very low effort. The first is of Will, wearing a tshirt that on the front says ‘act faggy’ and the back says ‘enrich your life engage shamelessly with homosexuality’. Below him is a picture of Jonathan and argyle, both high, with rainbow smoke behind them and labeled ‘California girls we’re unforgettable’. Then there’s a drawing of Mike as a 2000s emo, and a drawing of Lucas labeled ‘Lucas I love you’, and a drawing of Steve and Robin with hearts around their heads, both thinking ‘boobies’. The second image is a closeup of the Will drawing, and the third is a reference of the text.] /End ID
