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Hello there. May i ask you what the main differences between Asatru and Vanatru are? Also, i feel very attracted (spiritually speaking) to Pagan Religions, but i am utterly confused by the number of different faiths around. How could i figure out which Religion suits me best?

Hi higurethestillwind,

Keep in mind that these definitions are kind of fuzzy, so they are not going to get 100% agreement from the respective branches.

What falls under Asatru depends on what area you are in and who you are talking to. Many people use it as the default term for all of Norse-Germanic paganism, or do not know that there are terms for other branches. In some places, it represents generic Heathenry, while in other places it’s regarded as being a bit more new-age and occult-flavored than generic Heathenry (with some Asatru authors pulling ideas from Neo-Wicca and Ceremonial Magic while dressing them up as authentic Old Norse concepts). Additionally, Asatru tends to focus predominantly or exclusively on Icelandic source material. Many times the Aesir are given prime importance, and other Deities are given notice specifically because they joined the Aesir. There is a tendency I’ve noticed more towards a “warrior mindset” and a focus more on Gods and the community (and group politics) than there is on nature, the earth, local landvaettir and other vaettir, etc. (In the USA, at least. Asatru in Iceland itself seems to be very nature-focused.)

Vanatru is the branch of Heathenry that focuses more (though not necessarily exclusively) on the Gods who are members of the Vanir. Who is considered “part of the Vanir” gets debated quite a lot. Freyr, Freyja, and Njorðr are all considered Vanir without argument, and the list grows from there depending on who you are talking to. There’s a bit more of a focus on nature, the earth, seasons, and there can be more of a focus on fertility. Vanatru seems to pull heavily from Swedish sources (where Freyr was the “top god”) and some Anglo-Saxon sources, particularly regarding the alfar (who, given that they are ruled by and closely tied to Freyr, are featured heavily in Vanatru). For some people, Vanatru will look like “Vanir-flavored Asatru”, while for other people it might look like Northern Tradition Paganism or be closer to general Neo-Paganism. (If I was going to practice Vanatru, mine would basically be Swedish-focused Forn Sed/folketro.)

I don’t know if you are aware that there are many other variations besides these two, as well as just being a “general Heathen”. You don’t have to pick either Asatru or Vanatru.

higurethestillwind requested further detail on branches of Heathenry. (Thanks to my good friends in the Heathen Scholars group for their assistance - particularly hedendom, @myriadhallauglokadis, den-frusna-eken, @thorraborinn, and Ryan Smith.

Keep in mind that these definitions are kind of fuzzy, so they are not going to get 100% agreement from the respective branches. 



What falls under Asatru depends on what area you are in and who you are talking to. Many people use it as the default term for all of Norse-Germanic paganism, or do not know that there are terms for other branches. In some places, it represents generic Heathenry, while in other places it’s regarded as being a bit more new-age and occult-flavored than generic Heathenry (with some Asatru authors pulling ideas from Neo-Wicca and Ceremonial Magic while dressing them up as authentic Old Norse concepts). Additionally, Asatru tends to focus predominantly or exclusively on Icelandic source material. Many times the Aesir are given prime importance, and other Deities are given notice specifically because they joined the Aesir. There is a tendency I’ve noticed more towards a “warrior mindset” and a focus more on Gods and the community (and group politics) than there is on nature, the earth, local landvaettir and other vaettir, etc. (In the USA, at least. Asatru in Iceland itself seems to be very nature-focused.)

Vanatru is the branch of Heathenry that focuses more (though not necessarily exclusively) on the Gods who are members of the Vanir. Who is considered “part of the Vanir” gets debated quite a lot. Freyr, Freyja, and Njorðr are all considered Vanir without argument, and the list grows from there depending on who you are talking to. There’s a bit more of a focus on nature, the earth, seasons, and there can be more of a focus on fertility. Vanatru seems to pull heavily from Swedish sources (where Freyr was the “top god”) and some Anglo-Saxon sources, particularly regarding the alfar (who, given that they are ruled by and closely tied to Freyr, are featured heavily in Vanatru). For some people, Vanatru will look like “Vanir-flavored Asatru”, while for other people it might look like Northern Tradition Paganism or be closer to general Neo-Paganism. (If I was going to practice Vanatru, mine would basically be Swedish-focused Forn Sed/folketro.)

Continental Germanic (can include Gothic, Alemanni, Saxons, Cherusci, Cimbri, Heruli, Ingvaeones, Irminones, Istvaeones, and others. Information about many tribes is so sparse that more often you see a lot of combining what is known about different tribes into a sort of Pan-Tribal-Everything-That-Existed-In-The-Bounds-Of-Modern-Germany, or concentration on one of the more famous tribes that have more surviving information about them. Note that some tribes are both Continental and Germanic, but are broken out into separate groups further on in this list.) You’ll end up having to learn German for this, as much of the good information on the Germanic tribes is not available in English. Resource post here.

Frisian - aka Dutch Heathenry. This focuses on Frisian Deities, folklore and folk tradition, with a particular focus on the Netherlands. Wodan and the Wild Hunt, the veneration of oak trees for Donar. There is some overlap/importation of Deities from Celtic tribes to the south. These twolinks are to Wikipedia but give you a quick feel for some of this. I also have a list of reading resources here. You’ll have to learn Dutch for this, because most of the information is not available in English.

Frankish - French Heathenry, focusing on the Franks obviously, and the Merovingian kings. Again, there are some similarities with the related Germanic tribes, but given where France is, there was cultural exchange with local Celtic peoples (particular the Gauls). The upper classes converted to Christianity fairly early on, while old beliefs and practices persisted in the lower classes for quite some time and ended up having to have laws put in place to try to suppress them and expedite conversion. Resources post is here. You’ll have to learn French for this. Also be prepared to be digging around in a lot of Christian-oriented texts, ecclesiastical histories, etc, to find snippets about older folk beliefs and practices.

General Heathenry - doesn’t fit into any particular branch. May research many different areas but not concentrate exclusively on one particular region.

Anglo-Saxon (Fyrnsidu and Theodish) - obviously, concentrates on Anglo-Saxon practices and beliefs. Anglo-Saxon Heathenry is quite distinct, culturally, due to the history of the area and the cultural exchange. Several variants of this branch exist, including Fyrnsidu (which seems to be the AS version of Forn Sed, concentrating on folklore and folk traditions) and Theodism, which is very very different. Differences in Theodism are a highly hierarchical structure including thralldom (which may have labor duties and not simply signify “learner/seeker/probationary member”), rigid adherence to thew (local customs) to dictate ethics and proper practice and ritual observance, sacral kingship, and a focus on community (you cannot be solitary). Theodism, in my experience, has a very hierarchical and legalistic, rigid feel to it in comparison with… pretty much every other branch of Heathenry, as it tries to reconstruct pre-Christian social order as well as religion. I believe it was founded by Garman Lord as a reaction to traditional Gardnerian Wicca. Honestly, I would contact hangedwoman for better information about Anglo-Saxon Heathenry, as someone who practices ASH will be better informed than someone who does not. This post has a resource list for Anglo-Saxon Heathenry.

Folketro/Forn Sed - many variants throughout Scandinavia, each according to their geographical region (and the name changes slightly accordingly). This is more focused on folk belief and practices in the respective country. There is more inclusion of later folklore and traditions, less inclusion of New Age beliefs and practices, and less of a focus on the Iron Age (or pre-Iron Age). You are also more likely to find people practicing folk magic than ceremonial magic that’s been dressed up in Norse clothing and terminology - so, more traditional trolldom, klogefolk techniques and so on. Here too, you’re going to have to pick which country you want to focus on and start learning the language because otherwise most of the materials will be inaccessible to you. Denmark, Norway, and Sweden all have official groups (some of which you cannot join unless you live in that country - Norway’s is that way due to the legal system in Norway regarding religious groups). I am uncertain whether there are formal groups in the Faroes and Orkneys. There may be a more traditional group in Iceland but Iceland is mostly dominated by the Asatruarfelagid.

Urglaawe - Pennsylvania Dutch Heathenry. There is a concentration of the goddess Holle. Honestly, I would rather you read their introduction to their tradition rather than trying to summarize them, since I have very limited knowledge of this branch. Resources on this post. You will need to build contacts with the existing Urglaawe group in Pennsylvania, and likely will also have to learn Deitch. A lot of this tradition is still oral.

Alps - I don’t have much information about this branch. The only group I’ve seen that is accessible online is Firner Situ. Alps Heathenry is more of a blend considering that the area was a blend of Germanic, Celtic, and Roman peoples. There was a lot of cultural diffusion. This was possibly the entry point area for Germanic peoples on the continent using Hercule’s Club amulets to represent Donar, the use of bracteates, the presentation of and worship of the Matrones, and other things that suggest Roman influence or cultural exchange.

Visigothic - like it suggests, a concentration on the Visigoths. This is a branch that is particularly popular in Latin America. I unfortunately don’t have ready-made resources for this, as I haven’t ever interacted with the Visigothic branch before. I have been told Valmir Vala and Esteban Sevilla from Kindred Irminsul in Costa Rica are both good people to contact for more information. You’ll need to know Spanish for this branch.

Rokkatru (sometimes) - there are actually a couple of variations of this, all going under the same name. Abby Helasdottir’s original version of Rokkatru is really not very Heathen at all. Some people use the term Rokkatru when they fit more into Northern Tradition Paganism (see below). Others are, more or less, for all intents and purposes the same as Asatru or General Heathenry, except with a focus on Deities that have been termed “Rokkr” and the Jotnar. This seems to be much more of a thing in the USA and UK, as Scandinavian Heathens don’t have such a taboo on dealing with Jotnar.




Not Heathen:

Northern Tradition Paganism - founded by Raven Kaldera, this tradition explicitly and repetitively states that it is not Heathen. There’s a lot more utilization of UPG (unverified personal gnosis. If you are familiar with fandom, the idea of headcanon will be very useful to understand this term) and acceptance/proliferation of ideas if a group of people finds that enough people agree on a UPG concept (so, enough people have the same headcanons that it becomes accepted as sort-of-canon by the group). This is much more like Norse General Neo-Paganism. There is not as much concern over history. Innovations and borrowing from other places are readily accepted, and sometimes there are cultural appropriation problems.

Norse Wicca - just like it sounds. (Sometimes it is Seax Wicca.) This is a branch of Wicca (or sometimes of Neo-Wicca) that tends to have Freyr as the Lord and Freyja as the Lady.

Waincraft, which split from Vanatru, it’s more pan-European than strictly staying within Norse/Germanic boundaries. (thanks to answersfromvanaheim for pointing out that I missed this one)

Thursatru - this is a very, very tiny sect. This is a sort of Neo-Gnostic Left Hand Path 2 Spooky 4 U branch that seems to dislike and rail against every other branch of Heathenry. They don’t like the Aesir or the Vanir. They think Rokkatruar are fluffy and wrong. There’s less of an idea that “many jotnar have been painted as enemies but are not actually that bad or evil” and more of a “yeaaaaah, chaotic darkness, no rules, humanity is worthless and the human body is a prison, become your own God, bring on the Ragnarok, I worship spooky evil and isn’t that awesome and edgy?” They have their own Facebook page. Gullveigarbok by Vexior seems to be the main text outlining their ideas. Rokkatruar seem to get mistaken for Thursatru (which is also occasionally called Jotnatru.)


A note about Lokeans: Lokeans are not a separate sect, per se. There’s a weird idea floating around that Lokeans are all monotheistic or henotheistic and only and exclusively worship Loki. A Lokean can belong to any Heathen branch, or even a non-Heathen faith, as the only thing the term signifies is that Loki is included in that person’s praxis and doxa. (Their personal practice and beliefs.) It is not a separate religion.

Winter has fallen, it’s battles hard won
For darkness has conquered the sun
The longest of nights has come tonight
The coldest of seasons is here
The wind heralds, the hunt howls, tonight
We have near reached the end of our year
Draw near to the hearth, and keep you warm
From outside where cold winds blow and storm
Tonight is Mother’s night, tonight we remember
Our mothers, grandmothers, who to sheltered us here
Listening to them spin tales next to dying ember’
Tonight, we once again lend them our ear

Three candles we light, one just an old stub,
So well used tis only a small nub
For our foremothers, we give thanks

Second, for our own mother(s) who here or not,
Has (Have) us so much given and taught
For our own mother(s), tonight we give thanks

Third, one candle brand new, never lit
For daughters who one day beside a hearth will sit
For (our) daughters, now and future, we give thanks

Remember the goddesses, for candles three
Weaving and spinning together your family tree
Tonight, give thanks to all mothers come and gone
as we await the rising of the Yule dawn.

* The three candles should be: a well-used stub, a partially used candle, and an unlit candle. For best use, use the mother’s candle this year for foremother’s next year and the daughter candle for mother’s next year.

Made a corn dolly (harvest idol) yesterday from some of the corn I harvested. My wife named him Cobb

Made a corn dolly (harvest idol) yesterday from some of the corn I harvested. My wife named him Cobbin.


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About me

• Hiii Im Jade

• 20, lesbian️‍,transwoman️‍⚧️(she/her)

• Scorpio//Capricorn//Virgo⬆️

Norse Polytheist/Heathen

Rökkatru

• Patrons: Freyja&Hel

•Other main deities I worship: Thor,Odin,Freyr,Skadi,Njördr

Informative deityposts:

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Hellenic:

Aphrodite

Persephone

Dionysus

Artemis

Apollo

Poseidon

Zeus⚡️

Ares⚔️

Hera

Hades

Hermes⚕️

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Zero tolerance for homophobes, transphobes, racists, TERFs , SWERFS & any other bigots,this account is a safe place i will block anyone who is bigoted

•Donot call me male coded language(bro, man, dude, guy, etc) it makes me incredibly dysphoric

Sacrifice to Freyr

Vikings 

#vikings    #asatru    #vanatru    #sacrifice    #lagertha    

G’day, g’day! 
So… tumblr seems pretty intent on shitting the bed, huh? I mean, I wouldn’t expect any of what’s planned to affect NGC, but nonetheless what they’re doing is absolutely fucked up; number one, it’s quite blatant that it’s gonna target and affect Sex Workers and NSFW artists, which is fucking abhorrent, but then also - as has been well-bloody-known for a while now - their shitty filters flag pretty much anything LGBT+ including SFW content so just… gross, not good, sickeningly SWERFy, and rly LGBT+phobic. Oh, and you know the day they plan to instigate the ban - the 17th - is the Day to End Violence Against Sex Workers which, just… mate… smh, bloody Hel (not that any of this is new or surprising to me, being the cynical little anarchist that I am, but it’s still disgusting). 
SO! With all this being the case, I just wanted to let you all know - whether you might be planning to abandon tumblr or just might be interested in other ways to get my content - I’ve set up sister accounts and mirrors on other platforms:

(just to be clear; norsegodcalls is still gonna be here, on tumblr, too)

A twitter - @norsegodcalls (due to the character limit obvs tweeting my pieces wouldn’t really work so well but I’ll tweet announcements/links whenever a new piece is posted on here/facebook/wordpress - which I honestly maybe should’ve started doing a long time ago? haha. I’ll also probs do general twitter-stuff with it, and maybe set up a curiouscat..? I dunno, but if you’d like that, let me know.
Oh, and if you want you can also check out my personal twitter - @anarchasapphism

A mastodon -  @[email protected]will probs just operate basically the same as the twitter account except with more general personal interaction, plus mastodon is inherently better than twitter even just due to its concept an implementation, so… I heavilyencourage you to try to use mastodon instead

A facebook page - also called norsegodcalls (It’s been there for a while but I’ve kinda neglected it so far, but within the next week-ish i’ll be posting all the pieces I’ve written so far there, as well as all the ones I write in the future. I’ll also probs go through all the asks I’ve answered and pick out the ones I think might be the most useful to make into a general info post or something that I’ll keep pinned. Plus, since it’s facebook, I might do some other stuff there too that I don’t do here… I dunno)

A mirror blog on wordpress - also called norsegodcalls (Just like the facebook it’s been there for a while - longer, actually - and I’ve just kinda neglected it, but within the next week-ish I’ll be copying over all the pieces I’ve written to there as well, and possibly some of the choice asks I’ve answered, too. And it’ll be kept up to date with all the pieces I continue to write in the future)

and lastly,
there’s an email address in case any of you might have any use for it: [email protected]

So yea, those’re the alternative and/or additional options if they appeal to you :)
Seel!

(also, I’m really sorry but I am gonna reblog this a few times to give as many people as possible a chance to see it - it’d be cool if you could reblog, too!)

Oh Freyja, take my heart
And shape it to a beacon
I long and crave their presence
Love, as I am seeking

Embraced in deepest night
Kissed in morning’s light
Laughter shared, and wishes known
Souls familiar as they’re grown

Sweet Gold Tear, see we meet
In gaze, touch, and beat
Such aching we have felt
For our love in which to melt

Hands held in comfort
Each a promise of protection
Hearts cradled close
With such rhythms of affection

I meet them when I sleep
Feel my desire held most deep
A longing I’ve long had
For this love so true and glad

Love’s Lady, bless me so:
As I have dreamt, so will I know
A slumbered warmth beside me
Such blessed sapphic company

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A love prayer to Freyja for me and all you other lovely, lonely sapphics <3

I think dearly of the gods
As I breathe the day anew
For the strength of their proud presence
Does so help to see me through

Seel Sol! Alit upon my skin
Warm welcome as my days begin

Seel Freyr! Enrooted through my veins
Energy and life to limb and brain

Seel Sif! Inspiring aesthetic joy
Brightness found through pretty ploy

Seel Freyja! Curled within my heart
Love from which I’m ne’er apart

Seel Eir! Soothing to every aspect
Healing whim to my affect

Seel Thor! Agitation for mood
Vigor of music, drink, and food

I think dearly of the gods
As I set off to work
For the strength of their proud presence
Lends me a will that I’ll not shirk

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This piece was requested by @unearthedbyodin

Heyy lovelies!! I have a new track up on soundcloud :D it’s the song-version of my poem Skadhi’s Care so go and have a listen if you have a minute, HERE! It’s freely downloadable if you like it :) and hopefully one day I’ll be able to properly studio-record my stuff… haha

G’day everyone! I’ve been a little quiet for a while (hopefully not for much longer, though!) and there’s a few reasons why, but one of the reasons is that I’ve been trying to focus on a piece of writing that I’ve been working on for a short film by Hannah Smith titled Valhalla that will tell a story about depression from a Norse/Heathen perspective, which I’m pretty damn excited about tbh!

So if that interests you, then it’d be awesome if you could go and show some love to the fundraiser over on indiegogo, HERE! as well as checking out the project’s twitter: @Valhalla_film

And I think that’s about it for now…
Seel!

[NAME]
You are known to me and mine,
Gods and vaettir, all.
You’re malintent seeps like odour
So to my wrath, you’ll fall

Vile creature sat in privilege
You coward predator
No mercy for you here-on
Your actions, its forfeiture

No touch be known to you
Save cruel and sadist pain
No love to reach your heart
Nor cheer within your brain

A life you have toyed with
Now yours is my plaything
Be there ruin upon your name
And erasure to that you cling

I seek here no justice
This be not a trial
I claim only vengeance
Upon whom systems smile

Despair grip your soul
And know you, that all is lost
Feel the fear and desperation
Felt by they, you did accost

In my goddesses’ names
I invoke this bane
May Freyja echo my fury
And of my spite, may Skadhi

May The Rose tear at your innards
With thorns kept ever jagged
May The Snow seek sacred payment;
To see your ilk castrated

Your crimes forever haunt you,
Fool to think that you were safe
My malice in your shadows
Ensuring torment to death’s embrace

With this, now your fate be sealed
As you ever are deserving
No peace for our abusers
While survivors remain hurting!


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My love, support, and desire to protect and avenge to all survivors - you are wonderful and you are precious! You deserve to heal and to be heard <3

Okay, okay! So I’m venturing into starting a new project way out form my comfort zone. I’m writing a graphic novel which will be illustrated by a friend of mine (who’s work is absolutely DOPE). I need to learn some stuff about cultures and I wanna be as accurate and respectful as I can, and that means not googleing of hitting up wikipedia for it. I wanna as you guys if you are part of these cultures and can actually answer some questions for me and/or inspire me to write a character or a situation. These are the cultures I need to know a bit more for the moment:

Romani (mainly in North America)
Circus and carnival culture (mainly before the 2000′s)
Asatrú and Vanatrú
Chaos Magic
Brujería (Latin America) including cult to la La Santa Muerte

Hope some of you can help me! 

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