#fandom problems

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pearlcaddy:

When a list of “fanon that everyone in the fandom agrees on” crosses my dash:

damnfandomproblems:

Guy who is even slightly feminine. The fandom: Is that a trans girl? There's absolutely nothing wrong with headcanons but the problem starts when it's supposed to be the only interpretation and the right one. Also, it's not a good look when you insist every feminine guy is a trans girl. Do you know what it looks like when you call every woman who is even slightly masculine a trans man? It gives off the sense that you think women can't be strong and those who are aren't actually women. The same applies here. It makes it seems like you think men can't be feminine and the only ones who can be feminine are actually women. This also reinforces archaic gender roles which I thought we've long moved past. If you want to headcanon every feminine guy as trans woman, more power to you but please stop calling people transphobes for not interpreting the character the same way when it's not canon that they're trans.

Guy who is even slightly feminine.

The fandom: Is that a trans girl?

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with headcanons but the problem starts when it’s supposed to be the only interpretation and the right one. Also, it’s not a good look when you insist every feminine guy is a trans girl. Do you know what it looks like when you call every woman who is even slightly masculine a trans man? It gives off the sense that you think women can’t be strong and those who are aren’t actually women. The same applies here. It makes it seems like you think men can’t be feminine and the only ones who can be feminine are actually women. This also reinforces archaic gender roles which I thought we’ve long moved past.

If you want to headcanon every feminine guy as trans woman, more power to you but please stop calling people transphobes for not interpreting the character the same way when it’s not canon that they’re trans.

damnfandomproblems:So a lot of people hc this character as gay, when he literally has a crush on a

damnfandomproblems:

So a lot of people hc this character as gay, when he literally has a crush on a girl in canon, but find ig. And then have the nerve to call me homophobic when I ship them with my fem oc. Mate, your headcanon ain’t canon.

this! why is this so fucking accurate? I don’t mind people having their own sexuality headcanon but you don’t get to force it on those who don’t share it


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damnfandomproblems:Things I’ve seen antis do: Call a Chinese author racist for talking about Japan

damnfandomproblems:

Things I’ve seen antis do: Call a Chinese author racist for talking about Japan’s atrocities in China. Attack a CSA survivor for writing a fictionalised account of her abuse. Say an Egyptian actor is ‘white’ and has no right to play an Egyptian character. Harrass people over their headcanons about fictional characters. Things I’ve never seen antis do: literally anything to help the people or causes they say they care about.


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irishironclad:

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apelcini:

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apelcini:

“we need more platonic relationships in media” your inability to turn off your shipping brain is a You problem

“oh but we never get to SEE them be friends” you people can squeeze romance out of a rock, but you can’t extrapolate the platonic devotion and motivation behind an action or character arc? okay.

“but we never see them treated with the same importance as romance” your inability to consume anything other than ya novels is also a You problem

The exact same people, five minutes later: “Frodo and Sam are GAYYYY!!! Legolas and Gimli are GAYYYY!!! Harry and Draco are GAYYYY!!! Sherlock and Watson are GAYYYY!!! Sirius and Remus are GAYYYY!!! Dido and Belinda are GAYYYY!!! David and Jonathan were GAYYYY!!! Kirito and Eugeo are GAYYYY!!! Nibutani and Dekomori are GAYYYY!!! Taiga and Minori are GAYYYY!!! Superman and Lex are GAYYYY!!! And by Jove, Melkor and Sauron are THE GAYEST CINNAMON ROLLS OF GAYNESS EVERRRR!!!!!”

Explaining to fandom Tumblr that there are other forms of love besides romance like:

authortobenamedlater:

ladywolvesbayne:

elizbethdarcy:

shipping culture has actually made people insane. it’s not all about characters kissing. individual arcs matter. growth matters. plot matters. pacing matters. antagonistsmatter. for five minutes close your bloody fanfiction tabs and read a book

God FUCKING dammit, YES.

Two characters get along for 40 seconds and somebody is shipping them nuts wanting them to kiss and make babies, like, NOW. Dude, what happened to platonic relationships? Non-romantic love? Sisterhood, brotherhood? Strong friendships? Emotional support? Baby steps, even? And GOD FORBID if someone else tries to tell them they’re wrong…

Ship whatever you want, just don’t be an aggressive dick to others that don’t see eye to eye with you. For fucks sake. 

For all our talk of diversity these days, we seem to only have room for one kind of love.

I have a male friend for whom I would go to the ends of the earth. If he called me and said “I’m up against it and I need you” I’d be on the next plane out. I love him. I don’t want to marry him. I never have.

I have female friends for whom I would go to the ends of the earth, too. I don’t want to jump into bed with them either.

You can love someone and be devoted to someone and not want to sleep with that someone. It’s a sad commentary how few of us understand this anymore. Even sadder is how many of us not only refuse to see a relationship as anything other than romantic, and railroad people who do.

surprisemoose:

Is anyone else exhausted by fandoms vilifying a character’s canon female love interest just to prop up their mlm ship?

netraptor:

I return from Reddit and I bring with me this appropriate comic:

wyn-n-tonic:

nakedinasnowsuit:

You gotta just. Unfollow blogs that upset you. If you are so angry at a total stranger that you send them multiple anonymous messages, that is not normal. That is not healthy behavior.

#and when you unfollow them don’t stalk their blog and continue to harass them

“Obsession” Obsession


Whenever the events of the real world seem to get a little overwhelming, I can always rely on Tumblr and fandom for a distraction.  Perversely enough, even the worst parts of my fandom can come up with something that serves to take my mind off of problems about which I can do little.  Case in point: about four years ago, I left a comment on a story on AO3 and last night, four years later, someone decided to respond to it.

“But he did, just because he never told stiles to get lost doesnt mean he never ditched him for allison. I dont see it in this fic but in canon scott becomes obsessed with allison right away and everything else in his life is put second for her. He ignored stiles call at the pool, had sex with allison instead of watching the kanima, and made a plan to keep her and his mom safe but didnt include stiles. He also had stiles act as a gopher between them when they were broken up. Scott and allisons romance brought on a lot of problems and they didnt care till shit blew up in there faces. I dont think it was intentional, they had an intense relationship and i dont think scott realized how all encompassing it was at times.”

This idea that Scott was obsessed with Allison permeates the fandom ten years after the show first came out, and it was just as wrong then as it is now:

  • Did Scott put Allison first when he risked his relationship to her to retreive the wolf’s bane bullet for the brutal stalker werewolf in Magic Bullet(1x04)?
  • Did Scott put Allison first when he ditched their study date to summon the Alpha to the high school during Night School (1x07) in order to prove to Derek that it wasn’t Deaton and to fulfill his promise to Stiles to do something?
  • Did Scott put Allison first when he broke into her house to steal her necklace because Derek and Stiles insisted it was a clue to who burned down the Hale House in Wolf’s Bane(1x09)?
  • Did Scott put Allison first when he left her by herself in his bedroom to go save Jackson in Co-Captain (1x10)? He could have come home after disrupting his mother’s date but he went to save the boy who had been blackmailing him and earlier that episode.

These aren’t blink-and-you-miss-it scenes, either, nor are they jokes or pithy one-liners.  These are FOUR major plot actions in a twelve-episode first season.   And that’s not even dealing with the way Scott’s developing heroism sabotages any chance he has with Allison in Season 2.  Was Scott excited to be with her?   Was he emotionally invested in her?   Yes.   But in both seasons, Scott still had more scenes and more screen time with Stiles than anyone else, and they talked about a lot of other things aside from Allison. How are parts of the fandom still calling him obsessed?

The writer goes on to list examples, such as the famous Scott “hung up on Stiles while in the pool” which happened in Abomination (2x04).  It happened, but he didn’t hang up so he could return to making out with Allison. Allison and he were breaking into Gerard Argent’s safe to help stop the very monster that was threatening Stiles at the time with the evil hunter right downstairs. Scott didn’t know that Stiles was in trouble but he managed to save him and Derek anyway. His hanging up was a mistake, a mistake very much like Stiles made in the next episode, Venomous (2x05) when he nearly killed Scott by putting a crossbow bolt in the back of his head. Stiles didn’t blame Scott for his mistake and Scott didn’t blame Stiles for his mistake.

The writer condemns Scott because he “had sex with Allison instead of watching the kanima.” They did it in Frenemy (2x06). It was a mistake; they thought the prisoner transport van would hold Jackson. It was a mistake just like Stiles made when he ended the fake texts he sent to Jackson’s parents with ‘love you’ in the same episode even though Jackson hadn’t told his parents that since he found out he was adopted. Stiles assumed Jackson would say that and it led the police to them. Stiles didn’t blame Scott for his mistake and Scott didn’t blame Stiles for his mistake.

The writer, unbelievably, says that Scott “made a plan to keep her and his mom safe but didn’t include Stiles.” Why should that matter? Does Scott have to run everything he does by Stiles? Stiles didn’t feel he had to run all his plans by Scott, such as when he and Derek went to the hospital in Wolf’s Bane (1x09) after Stiles had lied to Scott during a phone call, because he didn’t want Scott to know that it was Melissa McCall’s account which had sent Allison that bogus text message. And in any event, how does the writer (or anybody) know that Stiles didn’t know about switching out Gerard’s medicines?  We can’t. Stiles didn’t complain or even seem surprised by it, did he? And before someone says that we didn’t see it on the screen, we also didn’t see Stiles caring about Scott in the aftermath of Victoria trying to kill him in Raving (2x08). Stiles knew that Scott was dying because Derek told him, but we didn’t see Stiles at the vet clinic nor did he even ask about it. So do parts of the fandom think that Stiles didn’t care that Scott had been close to death?  I bet you they don’t.

The writers says that Scott “had Stiles act like a gopher between them when they were broken up.” Incorrect, they were back together by that point in Abomination (2x04); Stiles was acting as a messenger because Allison’s parents were watching her and reading her phones and texts. Allison and Scott were together. That’s what friends do for each other, like when Stiles badgered Scott to sniff Lydia to find out if she was sexually attracted to Stiles on the day of the full moon in Lunatic(1x08).

Finally, there was the claim that Allison and Scott’s romance brought problems. This is simply not true; all the problems in the production were caused by Peter and Derek and the Adult Argents.  Scott was only involved because Peter assaulted and turned Scott, and I don’t know how people like this think ethics work, but to me that doesn’t mean that Scott has to put the Hale family needs first.  Even so, Peter would have been trying to kill people and trying to make Scott his beta even if Scott and Allison had never met.  Derek would have been trying to use Scott to find the Alpha who killed his sister and recruiting child soldiers to fight the Argents even if Scott and Allison had never met. By this measure, it’s the equivalent of saying all show’s problems were caused by Stiles dragging him into the woods that night, when it was the actions of Peter, Derek and the Adult Argents that endangered people’s lives.

All Allison’s and Scott’s romance did was 1) keep Scott anchored so he wouldn’t kill people, 2) save Derek’s arm in Magic Bullet, 3) save Isaac in Shapeshifted, 4) help people outside the Argent family gain access to the Argent’s bestiary, and 5) give Allison and Scott happiness. Stiles agrees; he pushed Scott to see Allison and he never ever complained about him seeing her.

It should be baffling to me how people can see two characters who started out being treated as equals – Scott and Stiles do the same things, make the same types of mistakes, have teenage interests (such as romance) because they’re teenagers – and say that one of them is a bad friend for making mistakes and pursuing what they want and one is not.

But it’s not baffling.  I know racism when I see it, even if it’s racism by impact and not intent.  While I’m sure that there are some BNF who are fully aware of the racist connotations of what they propose, I think most of the fandom that indulges in this does it unconsciously.  They’re simply been so indoctrinated to see the white male characters as the most attractive and worthy and thus the most deserving of screen time and attention that they come to the conclusion that passionate love between a Latino male character and a white female character (Allison is a participant in this relationship, too!) must be unhealthy, especially if it’s one of the more prominent relationships in the show.   So, they take even the most obvious jokes and the most minor events intended to heighten dramatic tension and without fail turn them into clues to the relationship’s malignity.

There’s an obsession all right, but it’s an obsession with making white men the only thing worth enjoying.

To My Fellow Izzy Fans,

Alright, as you may or may not be aware, there’s a rabid Izzy-hater in the Our Flag Means Death fandom who’s been sending harassing asks on anon to Izzy fans. (Remember: you can block anons who send you anon asks, but you can’t do it if you respond to the ask.)

Anyway, I want to encourage my fellow Izzy fans not to get sucked into the mindset of “if you like a bad character, you’re a bad person” that I’ve seen in other fandoms. I don’t want this one individual’s vile harassment to lead to Izzy fans feeling like they have to be defensive and have to excuse and justify Izzy’s worst behavior in order to be “allowed” to like him.

First of all, you just don’t. Second of all, Izzy isn’t a poor little meow meow who’s done nothing wrong. But third and most important of all, doing that won’t stop you from being targeted by this troll. Seriously, I write or reblog about Izzy’s flaws regularly, and I still got targeted.

So let Izzy be the awful little blorbo that he is. Love him or love to hate him or be fascinated by him without feeling you have to defend that. Block the anon if they target you. And may all your headcanons become true in season 2.

ihavea1dbloghelp:

ihavea1dbloghelp:

i found my hs freshman year journal at my parents house and its so cringe 

Gay aliens? LMFAO! 

ok, space swap is done. i have a brief gap in marking so it’s time to start a new project.

i should probably start my bigbang, but i can’t decide which of two stories i wanna tackle. If you have a dream Eddie & Venom scenario you don’t plan to write yourself, and you want to cast it on the waters in case it inspires anything, please do. i make no promises, but sometimes a seed is planted that way, you know?

or i could start my big bang vid – i have it all set up and ready to go, but it’s hard to not get entirely sucked into vidding for hours and hours, which doesn’t work well on work nights.

such terrible problems i have, folks. so much woe.

I hate falling in love with fictional characters…

Do you love your comfort character?

Yes, you can, you do… here’s why, and here’s what to do about it.

Love,
Cheryl xx

PS: This isn’t live on the channel yet. Sharing with you all first. And I’m nervous as fuck… please be nice :)

elucubrare:

ok i think what gets me about the kind of post that’s like ’[children’s media] has child soldiers, where are their parents!!’ is that those stories really and truly aren’t forpeople who’ll think about that, they’re for the people the children’s age, who don’t, for the most part, want to be kept safe or told they’re too young to participate in the world, they want to be given a sword

villainous-queer:

chaos-monkeyy:

the-rare-bird:

astriferaas:

  • fandom is a hobby, not a form of activism
  • adult women aren’t inherently creepy for being in fandom and having hobbies apart from raising babies and doing taxes
  • the vast majority of people pushing back against the worrying trend of instigating harassment over fictional characters and relationships aren’t incest supporters or pedophiles, actually
  • liking a m/f ship doesn’t make someone a dirty heterosexual invading your space
  • preferring gay ships doesn’t make you ‘’woke’’ and good
  • no one owes you a disclaimer that they are a good person who recognizes that their favorite fictional villain’s actions are evil and that they don’t condone those actions irl
  • liking a fictional villain is in no way comparable to advocating abuse/murder/genocide/etc and you’re a fucking idiot if you believe that
  • just because a woman is attracted to a fictional villain doesn’t mean she’s promoting toxic relationships or going to end up in a toxic relationship. assuming women can’t tell fiction and reality apart stinks of internalized misogyny 
  • some rando’s a/b/o fanfics have none of the level of influence that popular tv shows and movies spreading propaganda have
  • no one owes you a detailed description of their traumas and mental health problems
  • abusive relationships are not the same as enemies to lovers ships
  • y’all need to chill the fuck out over people, relationships, actions and events that don’t actually exist and learn how to enjoy and discuss them like normal people
  • fandom is a hobby, not a form of activism
  • feel free to add more

    ^^^THIS^^^

    Adding:

    • you can’t tell someone’s irl gender, sexuality, or values from what they read, write, and ship
    • no srsly you can’t, stop that shit

    unfuckening the formatting idk what happened there:

    - fandom is a hobby, not a form of activism

    - adult women aren’t inherently creepy for being in fandom and having hobbies apart from raising babies and doing taxes

    - the vast majority of people pushing back against the worrying trend of instigating harassment over fictional characters and relationships aren’t incest supporters or pedophiles, actually

    - liking a m/f ship doesn’t make someone a dirty heterosexual invading your space

    - preferring gay ships doesn’t make you “woke” and good

    - no one owes you a disclaimer that they are a good person who recognizes that their favorite fictional villain’s actions are evil and that they don’t condone those actions irl

    - liking a fictional villain is in no way comparable to advocating abuse/murder/genocide/etc and you’re a fucking idiot if you believe that

    - just because a woman is attracted to a fictional villain doesn’t mean she’s promoting toxic relationships or going to end up in a toxic relationship. assuming women can’t tell fiction and reality apart stinks of internalized misogyny 

    - some rando’s a/b/o fanfics have none of the level of influence that popular tv shows and movies spreading propaganda have

    - no one owes you a detailed description of their traumas and mental health problems

    - abusive relationships are not the same as enemies to lovers ships

    - y’all need to chill the fuck out over people, relationships, actions and events that don’t actually exist and learn how to enjoy and discuss them like normal people

    -fandom is a hobby, not a form of activism

    Thegood kush

    largishcat:

    fictional character discourse would be more fun if we all internalized the fact that characters are narrative tools, not people. once we have that basic fact down, we can start talking about what story the author is trying to tell using these characters, whether they’re successful, whether the story itself is successful and by what means we are measuring success—which are all really fun and interesting things to discuss! but we simply cannot get to that point unless we first accept that fictional characters simply do not have thoughts, feelings, opinions, or any agency on their own. a fictional character has more in common with the fictional chair theyre sitting on than with a real person

    phantomofthehoepera:

    absolutely hate this fandom trend of looking at your media of choice’s token female character and being like “ah yes. she is The Holder Of The Braincell. the most reasonable of the group, if not the ONLY reasonable one. she is in control of her emotions, only looking upon the boys’ foolish antics with mild, bemused exasperation for she knows that boys will be boys. she will not participate since she is, after all, the Most Rational of the group, looking over the lads like a nanny, or perhaps even a mother”. like. yawn. I for one would like to see some funny women instead 

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