#jiang cheng
The Untamed Memes: Episode 6 (¼)
This Episode is
Spoilers past Ep. 6
The Untamed Memes: Ep. 5 (2/3)
Part 3 is the best version coming soon (1 is P good too)
Spoilers past ep. 5 below
The Untamed Memes: Episode 4 (2/2)
Spoilers for future episodes(well like the whole thing )
The Untamed Memes: Episode Three (2/3)
This scene gets me every time
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The Untamed Memes: Episode Two (4/4)
So a lot (MOST) of these were kinda spoiler-y so have been hidden below as usual
Spoilers past Ep.2 below
I was able to predict a heap of stuff but DID NOT get that LWJ recognised WWX because of their song until it was spelled out in front of me (like the moment WWX was like so I get it now) so I hid it like my shame for not realising sooner
The Untamed Memes: Episode two (2/4)
Idk why but the scene in the forest cracks me up
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The Untamed Memes: Episode 2 (¼)
Most will be in chronological order (in the episode) but also who knows please enjoy rewatching without actually watching because I have no chill and meme it all
Spoilers for past Ep.2
There’s something deeply wrong with mdzs fandom lately
I have the impression that many of you are losing the deep meaning of mdzs (and, yes, cql) in order to follow wholesome headcanons and fanon conceptions of characters.
Let me explain.
There’s a reason for all this hate against Wei Wuxian, wangxian, even the concept of “yep they’re all equally flawed” or “Wei Wuxian is morally grey” (and i would appreciated it if it was true, but it simply isn’t). The reason is to depict Jiang Cheng as a better person, belittling his mistakes or, at least, placing him (morally) on the same level of Wei Wuxian, through the protagonist bashing or wrong interpretations of his character.
It’s not that I hate Jiang Cheng so much I couldn’t stand a wholesome headcanon in which he’s a cute tsundere protective brother. I could *write* an entire Fanfiction in which he’s the best friend of Wei Wuxian, a supportive brother and so on. I don’t need you to point out, every two minutes, that the canon is different and Jiang Cheng would not behave like this in the novel.
the problem is: maybe, some of *you* need a reality check. Because when you write metas based on a completely errate vision of a cute, supportive, tsundere Jiang Cheng, when you talk about your headcanon like it was just canon “behind the scenes”, when, suddenly, people has to EXPLAIN that Wei Wuxian was morally right all along and the cultivation wold is corrupted (which is the meaning of the novel) like it was a hot take, when, also suddenly, you become the bad guy because you answer those delusions about Jiang Cheng pointing out the FACTS… Like it was morally wrong of you to talk about canon Jiang Cheng, well. There’s a problem.
I repeat. I don’t mind headcanons that are treated like headcanons.
I don’t mind even some critical view on the novel, or canon complaint. A sane “I’m sorry mxtx, I know that your values are these, but I have some other values and I think…” Which at least TAKE IN ACCOUNT what the writer want and this is positive.
What bothers me is that: lately, many of you don’t talk about actual mdzs, or even the drama. You talk about some other thing, a thing in which Wei Wuxian is morally grey (or a shit) and in which Jiang Cheng is a tsundere character. Even wangxian shippers, who are not Wei Wuxian haters, depict Jiang Cheng like he was well intentioned. And they act all offended when you say: no.
No, Jiang Cheng was not willing to help Wei Wuxian with the Wen remnants at all, it’s not like he had no money or something like that. He tried to kill Wen Ning. He led the siege against burial mounds.
No, the thing about Jiang Cheng torturing random people is not a rumor. He tortured Mo Xuanyu even if Zidian proved he was not Wei Wuxian. Jin Ling freed Mo Xuanyu because he knew that his uncle did to that people.
No, Jiang Cheng didn’t hug Jin Ling when no one was watching. Because it would have been ooc, and because it doesn’t make sense to Jin Ling character. Jin Ling struggles because he has no family figure to help him grew emotionally.
No, Lan Qiren would not like Jiang Cheng, they would not get along well just in name of their mutual hate for Wei Wuxian. Maybe Jiang Cheng stans are not ready to hear this, but there are things called values, that Lan Qiren has and of which Jiang Cheng lacks. Lan Qiren maybe cannot exactly love Wei Wuxian, but, for his righteousness, he would totally like him better than Jiang Cheng. Jiang Cheng doesn’t incarnate at all Lan Qiren’s values. Not all people are toxic and comfortable in bonding on the basis of hatred for someone else. Some people have moral standards.
These are all cold takes I actually read about mdzs world. And they’re really an absurdity, and the fact that you can’t even answer back with facts, like it was rude or something… These people even answer with other even more delusional and stupid headcanons, shitting on the novel like the metaphorical pigeon on the chessboard.
Maybe some of you brag about being woke, cultural relativity, open minded, social justice or something. Yet here you are, disrespecting an author and the values of her people, because (I repeat, I think it’s important because some of you can’t read properly) the fact it’s not that you’re CRITICAL of her thinking, which is a honest confrontation between two people (or two cultures). You’re not even acknowledging her values and her culture, you appropriate her work. You’re awful people and it’s not a surprise that you stan an awful person.
Buon anno, stronzi.
He’s in a good mood
It’s interesting to me that when Wei Wuxian comes back to life Lan Wangji is known for his compassion and Jiang Wanyin is known for his cruelty.
But the reason it’s interesting to me is because after Wei Wuxian’s death Jiang Wanyin should be all set up to be the hero of the cultivation world that took down the vile Yiling Patriarch and yet when Wei Wuxian comes back Jiang Wanyin doesn’t seem to be respected as much as he is feared and disliked by others.
And then you have Lan Wangji who was completely absent from the siege and even tried to save Wei Wuxian after Nightless City (though I don’t think this was widely known) and yet he is highly respected by cultivators and civilians alike.
And this is because more than that one moment it was actions they took day after day, year after year, that formed the public’s opinion of them. Jiang Wanyin, more focused on torturing demonic cultivators than saving people; and Lan Wangji, who was known for caring little about fame and taking even small night hunts with little reward.
Another thing I’ve been thinking about is how Jiang Wanyin is contrasted with Jin Guangyao.
Now Jiang Wanyin wasn’t actually the one that killed Wei Wuxian but it’s pretty widely rumored that he did. And then you have Jin Guangyao who assassinated Wen Ruohan. Technically by looking at these two moments they should be on the same pedestal but again, the way they’re treated is vastly different.
Similar Lan Wangji, Jin Guangyao is highly respected in the cultivation world as the chief cultivator. But this is because Jin Guangyao put constant effort into maintaining his image and keeping his misdeeds beneath surface. He’s a loving husband, a sworn brother to Zewu-Jun and Chifeng-zun, a competent and kind Chief Cultivator that beat all the odds and rose above his station.
Of course, almost all these things hide horrible secrets beneath the surface but the lie is pretty while it lasts.
And then you Jiang Wanyin who doesn’t seem to care for maintaining his image at all to the point that civilians could hear the screams of his victims coming from Lotus Pier and know Jiang Wanyin won’t take a night hunt unless there’s already been a death.
Despite their similarities and positions of power their reputations are vastly different due to how they handle public relations.
It’s interesting to me that when Wei Wuxian comes back to life Lan Wangji is known for his compassion and Jiang Wanyin is known for his cruelty.
But the reason it’s interesting to me is because after Wei Wuxian’s death Jiang Wanyin should be all set up to be the hero of the cultivation world that took down the vile Yiling Patriarch and yet when Wei Wuxian comes back Jiang Wanyin doesn’t seem to be respected as much as he is feared and disliked by others.
And then you have Lan Wangji who was completely absent from the siege and even tried to save Wei Wuxian after Nightless City (though I don’t think this was widely known) and yet he is highly respected by cultivators and civilians alike.
And this is because more than that one moment it was actions they took day after day, year after year, that formed the public’s opinion of them. Jiang Wanyin, more focused on torturing demonic cultivators than saving people; and Lan Wangji, who was known for caring little about fame and taking even small night hunts with little reward.
i love them
au where jiang cheng knows how to top
I love the idea of Jin Ling being independently wealthy because of the sheer number of times he has been paid for his silence. A-Yao loses Jin Ling in the market for 5 minutes, and after he finds him, is just like “don’t tell your Jiujiu” and gives him money. When Jin Ling hears Jiang Cheng cursing one day and starts repeating him, Jiang Cheng has to write out 2 checks, one so that Jin Ling doesn’t say those words again, at least until he’s older, and another so that if his xiao shushu asks, he didn’t learn those words from Jiang Cheng.
