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There’s something deeply wrong with mdzs fandom lately


I have the impression that many of you are losing the deep meaning of mdzs (and, yes, cql) in order to follow wholesome headcanons and fanon conceptions of characters.

Let me explain.

There’s a reason for all this hate against Wei Wuxian, wangxian, even the concept of “yep they’re all equally flawed” or “Wei Wuxian is morally grey” (and i would appreciated it if it was true, but it simply isn’t). The reason is to depict Jiang Cheng as a better person, belittling his mistakes or, at least, placing him (morally) on the same level of Wei Wuxian, through the protagonist bashing or wrong interpretations of his character.


It’s not that I hate Jiang Cheng so much I couldn’t stand a wholesome headcanon in which he’s a cute tsundere protective brother. I could *write* an entire Fanfiction in which he’s the best friend of Wei Wuxian, a supportive brother and so on. I don’t need you to point out, every two minutes, that the canon is different and Jiang Cheng would not behave like this in the novel.

the problem is: maybe, some of *you* need a reality check. Because when you write metas based on a completely errate vision of a cute, supportive, tsundere Jiang Cheng, when you talk about your headcanon like it was just canon “behind the scenes”, when, suddenly, people has to EXPLAIN that Wei Wuxian was morally right all along and the cultivation wold is corrupted (which is the meaning of the novel) like it was a hot take, when, also suddenly, you become the bad guy because you answer those delusions about Jiang Cheng pointing out the FACTS… Like it was morally wrong of you to talk about canon Jiang Cheng, well. There’s a problem.

I repeat. I don’t mind headcanons that are treated like headcanons.

I don’t mind even some critical view on the novel, or canon complaint. A sane “I’m sorry mxtx, I know that your values are these, but I have some other values and I think…” Which at least TAKE IN ACCOUNT what the writer want and this is positive.

What bothers me is that: lately, many of you don’t talk about actual mdzs, or even the drama. You talk about some other thing, a thing in which Wei Wuxian is morally grey (or a shit) and in which Jiang Cheng is a tsundere character. Even wangxian shippers, who are not Wei Wuxian haters, depict Jiang Cheng like he was well intentioned. And they act all offended when you say: no.

No, Jiang Cheng was not willing to help Wei Wuxian with the Wen remnants at all, it’s not like he had no money or something like that. He tried to kill Wen Ning. He led the siege against burial mounds.

No, the thing about Jiang Cheng torturing random people is not a rumor. He tortured Mo Xuanyu even if Zidian proved he was not Wei Wuxian. Jin Ling freed Mo Xuanyu because he knew that his uncle did to that people.

No, Jiang Cheng didn’t hug Jin Ling when no one was watching. Because it would have been ooc, and because it doesn’t make sense to Jin Ling character. Jin Ling struggles because he has no family figure to help him grew emotionally.

No, Lan Qiren would not like Jiang Cheng, they would not get along well just in name of their mutual hate for Wei Wuxian. Maybe Jiang Cheng stans are not ready to hear this, but there are things called values, that Lan Qiren has and of which Jiang Cheng lacks. Lan Qiren maybe cannot exactly love Wei Wuxian, but, for his righteousness, he would totally like him better than Jiang Cheng. Jiang Cheng doesn’t incarnate at all Lan Qiren’s values. Not all people are toxic and comfortable in bonding on the basis of hatred for someone else. Some people have moral standards.

These are all cold takes I actually read about mdzs world. And they’re really an absurdity, and the fact that you can’t even answer back with facts, like it was rude or something… These people even answer with other even more delusional and stupid headcanons, shitting on the novel like the metaphorical pigeon on the chessboard.

Maybe some of you brag about being woke, cultural relativity, open minded, social justice or something. Yet here you are, disrespecting an author and the values of her people, because (I repeat, I think it’s important because some of you can’t read properly) the fact it’s not that you’re CRITICAL of her thinking, which is a honest confrontation between two people (or two cultures). You’re not even acknowledging her values and her culture, you appropriate her work. You’re awful people and it’s not a surprise that you stan an awful person.

Buon anno, stronzi.

spoiledmoonbliss:

So, there has been a reckoning in wangxian/mdzs fandom since yesterday, when twitter fandom found out that popular author (AO3 user Shinocchi) was suspended from AO3. And it turns out it was because she was behind what seemed to be a cyberbullying campaign against other authors on AO3. Which she did on her own (well, and some of her followers. But mostly by herself). She created sockpuppet accounts (fake accounts), which she used to stalk and leave hateful comments, harass authors when their fics were becoming increasingly popular (more comments, kudos and bookmarks). She did this to drive these authors off of fandom. She is a STALKER, and she did severe emotional damage to others. Why? Because their fics were becoming too popular? Because she didn’t agree with wangxian characterization? Proof shows that the one thing all of these authors had in common was that their fics were becoming popular. As soon as this happened, they were attacked by multiple accounts

Geragrena, rikke, cafecliche and yiqie are only a few that have been mentioned that were her victims.

This came about thanks to AO3 user sweetlolixo, another popular mdzs author who was also targeted and harassed by Shino. She compiled pages of proof that all of the people leaving hateful comments on her fics were coming from ONE person. Don’t believe me? She created a thread here where she published a google document with everything that happened and all the proof, plus the response from AO3 that resulted in them banning Shinocchi.

Here’s the link to the thread, which also includes the google doc. https://twitter.com/sweetlolixo/status/1430169788064616449?s=21

Turns out she’s been doing this for over seven years, when she was in the dramatical murder fandom. Thread of other victims that came forward: https://twitter.com/lwjilysm/status/1430274984061059072?s=21

And what was Shino’s response? She blamed “her sister,” then privated her twitter account. Today, she became public again and said she would take responsibility for all the people she hurt and apologize. However, people confronted her about her crappy apology and she ended up deactivating her account.

Thread of shino’s apology since people can no longer read it ever since she deleted her account: https://twitter.com/wwxprime/status/1430250007882387456?s=21

TLDR: AO3 author Shinocchi was removed from AO3 after another popular mdzs author, sweetlolixo, compiled evidence proving that Shino was a cyberbully who created fake accounts to harass and leave hateful comments on other fics, while pretending to be multiple people. So if you’re looking for her fics and find them deleted? This is why.

UPDATE: Found screencaps of Shinocchi’s apology from this morning, where she said she would take responsibility (well, she still blamed her “sister”) and apologize to everyone involved.


A little less than an hour later (I think?), she deactivated her account and flounced to her website (which is private), where she made a post saying that she’s leaving fandom and that she won’t apologize because nobody wants to hear it.

She made a post on her (private) website, where she basically doesn’t take any responsibility, and instead implies that most of the people dogpiling on her are “those who held grudges” against her, and that she won’t “admit to faults that aren’t hers.” So no apology from Shino to all those affected. Pretty different from what she posted this morning on twitter, isn’t it?

You’re really great! I like you. Fancy you. Love you. Want you. Cannot leave you. I everything and anything you!

“Don’t want anyone but you. It can’t be anyone else but you!”

“–!!”

• • • • • • •

A drawing of the confession, because I’m sappy and seeing them embrace and spill their souls to each other… Top 10 of all time…

I’m also on twitter, say hi to me there!

how these mdzs characters walked through your life 

Lan Sizhui 。.。:∞♡*♥

  • Sizhui was someone that everyone was always looking at
  • not only was he handsome,
  • but he was kind, soft natured, smart and charming 
    • with so many great traits
    • and so many eyes on him always
      • you never thought that you would stand a chance
    • but what you didn’t realize was
    • that Sizhui had always paid the most attention to you 
      • you both had met through your campus’ tutoring center
      • and before he knew it, Sizhui began to look forward to the hour or so that you would both spend at the library together
    • even though you weren’t very good at physics
      • Sizhui still sees your work ethic shine through 
        • you put dedication into everything that you do
        • and make the effort to come to the sessions prepared, and more invigorated than other students who’ve had him
    • you also treat him as a friend, 
  • it’s a refreshing feeling, being treated as someone valuable more than just someone to either get homework answers from or a pretty face to look at 
  • Sizhui’s handwritten notes for you help you pass your final exams
    • and his encouragements stay warm in your heart
    • long after your tutoring sessions end
      • you guys don’t date,
      • not really
        • but you still keep the funny sticky notes that he’d write on your planner,
        • remember the reddening of his cheeks whenever you catch him staring at you 
          • know that time did seem to pass by too fast whenever you both were within each other’s presence
            • and well, you guys never really dated
              • but you sure knew
              • how you both felt

how these mdzs characters walked through your life

Jin Ling 。.。:∞♡*♥

  • Jin Ling had never fallen for anyone as hard or as fast as he fell for you
  • one passing glance on the college campus was enough for him to be completely smitten
    • and it took a bit of asking around 
    • a lot of looking around too
      • but he finds you,
      • and really goes for it
      • because he’d been daydreaming about you from that first glance
    • he’s persistent in his efforts to get one date with you
  • even if he takes him almost 10 attempts
    • the first two attempts, he misses your class
    • the next three attempts the weather acts up, so he can’t see you on campus
    • there’s one time where you simply walked passed him because you didn’t even see him,
  • but there’s a saying that he’s always heard 
    • “much work, much prosperity”
  • and really it does pay off
  • because he finally manages to catch you outside your class one time,
    • and asks you out
      • to his luck and happiness,
      • you say yes
  • both of you go on one date together
  • it was a fun outing
    • but one that made him realize that you both didn’t really have that much in common
      • as pretty and kind as you are
      • the awkward silences that lull between you on the bus ride and at the record shop are more than few
        • so after that 
          • when you both part ways at the train station,
          • short goodbyes at hand
          • it feels a little like an ending
            • but to have spent the day with someone who adored you
            • was a memory worth making 

tangledinmdzs:

hi friends!

in celebration of the newest milestone that this little blog has reached, i thought that it would be nice for you all to get to know me better as your author!

so i’m opening the dms for my personal blog @amdzsmood for all questions, comments, queries, curiosities and anything you’d like to know for this week!

feel free to send in anything you would like! i can’t wait to hear from you

much love,
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