at the end of the day that man’s defenders have gone full qanon like it doesn’t matter what she says or how many photos of her bruises or the insane amount of property damage she has. it doesn’t matter that there are audio recordings of him screaming at her “you don’t exist” and telling her nobody will believe her or or admitting to head butting her or threatening to hurt himself while she begs him to stop. everyone jumped at the first chance to take their foot off this man’s neck so they wouldn’t have to face the reality that he’s a piece of shit and now they won’t see anything else. even the dumbass “mutual abuse” crowd refuses to acknowledge the way only one of them is being smeared and mocked relentlessly across the internet (and now on snl, apparently.) it doesn’t matter to them that her allegations against him were made in 2016, well before there was a mainstream metoo movement to “take advantage of”. it doesn’t matter! does anyone else feel like dying
actually the worst part is how many young people pride themselves on being “too smart” to fall for propaganda are the ones leading the online charge against this woman because they watched a tiktok “debunking” her claims
johnny depp was in his mid twenties (25*) when he started dating a 17 year old winona ryder.
he was in his mid forties when he started dating a 26* year old amber heard.
he was 54 when he started dating a 22 year old dancer (2018).
he allowed his 15 year old daughter to live with a man in his twenties and proceeded to defend said man when the police got involved on statutory rape charges.
he is a violent man (not just towards amber) in general. he is literally back in court next month for punching a man on set. and has a long, long history (that predates amber) of smashing things and physically assaulting others.
he uses demeaning, misogynistic language towards women in general, not just amber.
edit: he called the *mother of his children* a “French extortionist cunt”
he is transphobic. towards one of amber’s former best friends, a man who was meant to be his own friend too.
he is an abuse apologist. he defended roman polanski for RAPING A CHILD saying he was too old for that and was married so obviously it’s not possible.
he’s besties with marilyn manson who is an abusive piece of shit himself.
even if you don’t believe that amber was abused by him, is this the man you want to fight to the end defending?
Amber Heard was in preschool the first time Johnny Depp was arrested for assault and he’s spent the three decades since then getting arrested and accused of assault and violent rages over and over again while talking about his persistent drug and alcohol abuse and people are still looking at this case like “hmm I dunno maybe Gone Girl is real????”
lemme just give u a lil context on some things that might be missing from social media content in the depp v heard trial. for background, i’m an attorney. i’m from california. i’m a certified domestic violence victim advocate. i work for a domestic violence shelter that provides services to both male and female survivors of domestic violence.
notes on previous cases & the type of legal action johnny depp filed
this is not a legal proceeding initiated by AH. it was initiated by Johnny Depp. it is not the first proceeding initiated by Johnny Depp.
once a victim ends a relationship and cuts off contact with an abuser, it is not uncommon for an abuser to use the legal system to continue to exert power and control over their victim. it’s called litigation abuse.
in the most recent completed legal proceeding (Johnny Depp sued a british tabloid for defamation for referring to him as an abuser), the judicial officer determined that AH had proved at least 12 of 14 alleged incidents of abuse to a civil legal standard, making it perfectly appropriate for a news organization to refer to Johnny Depp as an abuser.
this is a defamation case, not a case about abuse. its about whether or not AH defamed Johnny Depp by writing an article about *her* experience as a public figure associated with domestic violence, an article that did not mention Johnny Depp by name.
notes on forum shopping by depp’s legal team
interestingly, this defamation case was NOT filed in California, the state where AH and Johnny Depp lived during their relationship, and was NOT filed in DC, where the WaPo, the publication that published AH’s article, is based. it was filed in the state of virginia.
because this trial is about defamation, not domestic violence, there has been a significant lack of expert testimony about domestic violence. let me just tell you a few things about the concept of mutual abuse.
in california, it is possible for two people to get restraining orders against each other if they have both committed acts of domestic abuse. HOWEVER, this type of legal outcome is heavily regulated because the legislature and judicial system understand that true cases of “mutual abuse” are exceedingly rare. therefore, california law requires that a judicial officer make “detailed findings of fact indicating that both parties acted primarily as aggressors and that neither party acted primarily in self-defense”.
in making this determination, caselaw directs judicial officers to consider the entire history of abuse in a relationship, rather than taking each incident as a single isolated event. this is because, say after 6 months of being choked, threatened with death, and having objects thrown at your head, when a drunk angry partner comes towards you, hitting them first, in and of itself, does not make you the primary aggressor. it is considered “reactive” violence, done in self defense, and can only be evaluated in taking the entire history of abuse in the relationship into account.
the fact that one party was injured during an altercation, in and of itself, does not make the injured party the victim and the injury inflicting party the primary aggressor. this is based on long established legal principals that a victim of physical aggression can employ reasonable physical force to defend themselves, even if that application of force results in injury to the aggressor
that AH admitted to striking Johnny Depp, in and of itself, does not legally mean that AH is “equally guilty” of domestic abuse, does not mean that she is not a victim of domestic abuse, and does not negate that Johnny Depp was the primary aggressor throughout the relationship
a few other notes:
johnny depp is not captain jack sparrow, edward scissorhands, or any other famous character you love. he is an almost 60 year old man with a documented history of frivolous litigation, alcohol and drug abuse, and physically violent outbursts dating back decades.
johnny depp is a cisgender heterosexual male, a multi-millionaire, a well established actor, and was in his 50s when he married a bisexual woman, an up-and-coming actress 20 years his junior. there is an ENORMOUS power differential here. which is not to say that it is inherently abusive, but it is context that needs to be part of the discussion.
petty but whatever, AH’s lawyer never said she used that specific makeup product brand to cover her bruises. AH’s lawyer said she used a product that did color correction, like that makeup product brand has, holding up their product for visual emphasis in the courtroom. it’s not evidence of any kind of lie and it’s extremely bad faith on that makeup brand’s part to insinuate otherwise
that lady who diagnosed AH, claimed she doesn’t have PTSD, and claimed that she has histrionic personality disorder and BPD, was hired by Depp’s legal team, AFTER drinking with Depp’s legal team, is paid by Depp’s legal team, and spent less than 12 hours evaluating AH in person. Not a credible reputable source of impartial, science-based evidence.
correction: first version had NYT/NY not WaPo/DC bc lol that article was a while ago and i forgot
In ten years time, when we look back on the Depp v Heard trial and see what a horrible monster he truly is and how horribly Amber was treated; so many people will say “We’re all to blame.” No bitch! Not all of us fell for his bullshit.
His bodyguards sued him for being violent towards them and forcing them to transport drugs (illegally) for him.
1989 he was arrested for assaulting a hotel security guard in Canada, after the guard asked him and his friends to leave because they were drunk/noisy.
1994 Depp was arrested again on charges of criminal mischief when he destroyed a hotel room (allegedly because he was having a fight with then-girlfriend Kate Moss…see a pattern yet??) He had to pay almost $10,000 in damages, but again he got off because of his status and money.
2019 he was sued for attacking and punching a locations manager twice on a film set. According to the lawsuit Depp yelled: “I will give you one hundred thousand dollars to punch me in the face right now!” at Brooks when he showed little reaction, before the actor’s bodyguards pulled him away. The following Monday, he was asked by a producer to write and sign a declaration saying he would not sue over the incident. Brooks says he refused and was fired on the spot.
The bastard also openly supports Roman Polanski. And guess what? He’s close friends with Marilyn Manson, who Is also being accused of rape, sexual and domestic abuse by ex-partners, and MM is also suing Evan Rachel Wood for defamation. They’ve also been known to abuse drugs and alcohol together…interesting about the company you keep, right?
There is consistent public knowledge of JD’s abusive and violent behaviour, I just don’t know how people have the balls to justify or deny allegations of intimate domestic abuse with a woman he clearly never respected, when he shows this level of disturbing behaviour PUBLICLY and was willing to release this all publicly in order to abuse AH through the courts, all to rob her financially and destroy her publicly. His behaviour has been justified, excused, and enabled for decades…
But sure tell me how the man is SUCH an innocent angel who deserved justice. Fuck you.
Also, keep in mind, a British court already found, based on evidence, that he was guilty of abusive violence, and that any violence from Amber was in response to his violence to her. The court wrote a very long (over 100 pages) judgement in that case. This was also a defamation case brought against one of the British papers. Depp LOST that case.
i don’t EVER want to hear “ughh why do people care about this celebrity drama they’re both bad it’s not that deep” again. if you cant see the sweeping ramifications of this you’re blind or dumb or both
at the end of the day that man’s defenders have gone full qanon like it doesn’t matter what she says or how many photos of her bruises or the insane amount of property damage she has. it doesn’t matter that there are audio recordings of him screaming at her “you don’t exist” and telling her nobody will believe her or or admitting to head butting her or threatening to hurt himself while she begs him to stop. everyone jumped at the first chance to take their foot off this man’s neck so they wouldn’t have to face the reality that he’s a piece of shit and now they won’t see anything else. even the dumbass “mutual abuse” crowd refuses to acknowledge the way only one of them is being smeared and mocked relentlessly across the internet (and now on snl, apparently.) it doesn’t matter to them that her allegations against him were made in 2016, well before there was a mainstream metoo movement to “take advantage of”. it doesn’t matter! does anyone else feel like dying
actually the worst part is how many young people pride themselves on being “too smart” to fall for propaganda are the ones leading the online charge against this woman because they watched a tiktok “debunking” her claims
it’s insane to me when depp’s supporters defend him and a normal person will respond like “he said he wanted to rape her burnt corpse and a bunch of other horrible shit….” and they’ll be like “ sweetie joking or talking about something is not the same thing as actually doing it ✋ she’s the one who was physical!” and then still continue to make fancams of him and not only insist that he’s innocent but actually STAN him… even if he WASN’T an abuser (he is) you as a self-proclaimed “feminist” and/or “progressive” are still making heart-eyes at a man who joked about wanting to rape a woman’s burnt corpse?? are you fucking serious??
the way in ten years when this situation has been britneyified people who are in my replies right now saying “umm did she not literally cut his finger off????” will be on twitter lecturing me about how “we were ALL complicit in the abuse of amber heard ✊” and people making youtube videos with “expert” analysis of ambers body language and facial expressions to prove that she’s a liar are gonna be making videos like “how johnny depp tricked us all ”… insanity. girl when that time comes speak for your fucking self because we were not ALL gullible misogynists
