#heard vs depp

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mdccanon:

Here’s the hilarious thing about pro-Amber people: this case isn’t about who abused who, because Amber never cared to press charges because that would have been disproven in court just like its being disproven now, what with Amber’s legal team insulting the intelligence and threatening the careers of the vast majority of witnesses who were around Amber during and after the alleged abuses. Abuse that her legal team is no longer trying to prove occurred and begged the judge to dismiss the trial because even if they can’t prove Johnny ever laid a hand on her any time she claimed he did, he did verbally abuse her, and isn’t that enough? So what if she may possiblyhave boardline personality disorder. She’s stressed out being a girlboss, so she’s not to be blamed for elaborately orchestrated allegations she makes.

This case is about defamation of character and if Amber’s interview damaged Johnny’s career. Proving he did abuse her is supplemental TO that, but the issue remains: was Johnny cancelled for it?

Amber’s lawyers are happy to say he was cancelled, but blame anything else but her interview, but using the headlines of articles – not the articles themselves, mind you – from undetermined times of publication to say that a man who has been in 3-4 movies a year almost every year since Edward Scissorhands in 1990 and has been an addict that ENTIRE time, has somehow, suddenly lost Hollywood’s patience with his addictions and it just so happened to coincidentally have aligned with Amber’s tell all.

So, the dilemma for pro-Amber people is that this is a LEGAL situation and not just an opinioned moralistic diatribe. Are YOU willing to look someone in the eye and use the actual LEGAL point of this whole trial: “It remains to be seen if Johnny Depp did or did not batter Amber Heard, however, it cannot be overstated that Amber exposing Johnny for the alleged abuser he is did NOT cause his sudden expulsion from major Hollywood productions, such as Fantastic Beasts and Pirates 6. Especially since Amber did not technically name Johnny as the abuser in her interview so it remains to be seen if Amber was even referring to Johnny or if public speculation has led to naming Johnny as the abuser, which, in that case, also makes it not Amber’s fault that Johnny lost his deals.”

Put that on a hashtag.

i’ve loosely followed the depp vs heard trial, and seeing how social media has reacted i was pro-depp like everyone else. then, i saw one (1) tweet talk about how the fact people are reacting to Heard talking about her abuse how damaging this will be for victims who are reading this backlash, reading the incredible horrfying things about Heard from strangers, from their friends, from their own family and what the consequences of that will be. What should abuse look like? Does abuse only look like one particular thing? Do victims overreact? Should they? Are they allowed to? What if they don’t remember one memory to the T, does that mean they’re lying? Does it mean I am lying when I don’t recall an event perfectly bc my brain blocked it out? It’s just very, very strange the sudden…shift in the perception of victims of abuse. As if everyone reacts the same. As if everyone suffers the same. As if everyone copes the same. It’s fucking weird.

Coming back to Depp vs Headd, do people not see how hard Depp’s legal team is working to fuel this perception? How are people not fact-checking all the bullshit social media is trying to push to paint this image of Depp as a innocent angel? He is not innocent lmao. He is not some sort of angel who has done no wrong. I have seen one (1) video of this trial-him in the kitchen-and let me tell you, my fight or flight mode kicked in. I was scared of him in that video. It reminded me of my own experience with a grown up man being physically intimidating on purpose to scare and psychologically abuse you and your family. Yet people reacted like Depp was being normal. That was not fucking normal. What the fuck?

And fuck, wanting to televise and actually televising the trial like it’s a fucking sit-com is so fucking damaging and not a “win” for male-victims. Look at how everyone is so fucking happy to have a pass to be a misogynistic asshole, how they’re so bloody happy to FINALLY not have to believe the woman and feel free to shred her apart raw. I did not see this kind of heat for Harvey Weinstein, for Roman Polanski, for literally any male abusers.

And I won’t even start on the weird fancams of Depp and reenactments of testimonies and such on tiktok. That’s fucking weird. Like, incredibly weird. This isn’t fiction, it’s a real life matter. Can we please just? Think a bit more critically? And stop with the weird fandom reactions to this trial?

Men as victims - what makes the reactions to the Loki show so telling

Recently, I noticed something concerning on Twitter. There are several categories of people who liked and support the Loki show (2021), varying from casual fans who knew nothing about Loki before, over fans of the general MCU who perceived Loki mainly as a villain in The Avengers (2012), to rabid show fans who generally call everyone a misogynist who dares to admit they didn’t enjoy the show. Now, while I normally find some kind of common ground with people who are part of the first two groups, the last one belongs to a special kind of people. I noticed their habit to turn to verbal abuse quite fast (like so many others), but now there is something more they have in common: most of them believe and supportAmber Heard.

The thing with supporters of Amber Heard is that many of them support her just because she‘s a woman and they claim all women should be believed in general, obviously regardless of all evidence.

There are people on Twitter who love the show (by loving Sylvie as a proxy) to a degree it becomes meaningless to them if they thus support torture, abuse, and other crimes that are framed as morally acceptable. And they treat the Heart vs Depp trial just the same, attacking both Depp and people who believe him. They do so by utilizing ad hominem attacks, like calling people misogynists, social rights warriors, or men’s rights warriors, abusers, and toxic. They are trying to refute rather by character defamation instead of arguments. A frequently used move is to switch the abuser/victim dynamic and call everyone speaking up for Loki or Depp a victim blamer. To support their claims they apply other manipulative tactics, such as twisting facts.

Here is one example: after the show aired many fans of Loki (the character, not the show) pointed out that the relationship resembled autogynephilia, a harmful hypothesis that claimed trans women would want to adapt their gender because they were attracted by the idea of themselves, but as women. The pro-series fans claim to point out this would be actually transphobic (reversing the accusation), citing an article written by Julia Serrano (a famous trans-women who works in science). But if you check what she actually said about the matter, the article does not support the claim. She argued a dislike of the relationship could be caused by subconscious transphobia because people might perceive Sylvie as trans since she is the only female Loki variant. When genderfluid fans pointed out to her on Twitter that they did not feel comfortable with the Loki show, Serrano herself cited a tweet where she points out the flaws of the genderfluid representation herself. In conclusion, 1) fantasies about one’s own body but of another gender are normal, not limited to trans-people and not to be looked down upon! 2) presenting the relationship in the show in a way it will inspire discrimination against non-binary people because it reminds us of the harmful claims some “scientists” have made in the past is not a good representation. 3) pointing out this fact is in support of GF fans, and certainly not transphobic.

At the same time, men face much greater problems being believed when they get abused by women than the other way ‘round. Still, those people close their eyes from the abuse and support the abusers and in case of the Loki series, the framing of torture and abuse as being just. (While I am not a fan of Sylvie, since Loki was mainly disparaged to make her look superior, she is not mainly responsible for his abuse. That would be Mobius doing the death threats and the gaslighting, and ordering the groin kicking.)

Now why is this important? I think there is a social current happening we should be aware of. Women who hate men just because of their gender, who fight for increased discrimination under the guise of feminism and even pretending to act to protect trans-people. This is just as bad as patriarchy.

So, if you ever happened to be in a situation you were discriminated against and wanted the support of someone who would be believed where you wouldn’t you should fight this social current. I recommend doing so by asking if they liked the show. If they do, explain the torture, the transphobic representation, and the disparaging, and ask again. If they still stand behind it, that’s a bad sign.

On a side note: 1) those people are giving both feminism and LGBTQIA+ supporters a bad name, and I am getting annoyed by that. 2) I agree that the public defamation of Heard is not ok, and needs to stop. For one thing we should be over lynching in 2022, and secondly, it only contributes to the hardening of the fronts. Instead, we need to think about how we see people who have been convicted and that it is still a crime to abuse them.

Amber Turd is done for. About time.

Fired from Aquaman 2, done and ditched!

My happiness is tempered by the ever-lingering threat that we’ll go back to the opposite extreme and accuse all female victims of lying. We just fucking went through fighting for a male abuse victim here not to become the monsters we defeated.

While everyone’s cheering for Depp, including me, I just want to say…

I STAND WITH THE TRUTH.

I want all accusations to get a fair shake. No one, man or woman, should go through what Depp went through. Men shouldn’t be ignored and women shouldn’t be discounted because of what Heard did.

Amber Heard is not all women.

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