#way of kings
Religion in Stormlight Archive
One thing I’ve really appreciated about this series is the wide spectrum of religious beliefs throughout this book. Jasnah is an atheist, Shallan holds onto the tradition of religion. Most of the characters believe and follow the Almighty. Other cultures have their own beliefs.
Szeths culture believes rocks are holy and the Alethi use rocks as a tool in just about every aspect of their lives.
In Words of Radiance, the characters Ym has a conversation with a local boy about religion. He claims, “Iriali need no preaching, only experience.” He believes people came from one consciousness and live seperate lives that will be reunited later on.
Brandon Sanderson himself is a Mormon but he poses realistic debates about if there is a God, and other perspectives on religion. These conversations aren’t the author screaming their opinions, it’s realistic worldbuilding. I’ve read some books that either don’t touch religion in their worlds, or force their worldviews on the reader every other page.
The debates and practices of religion in these books seems very realistic to me and I’ve loved learning about them.
This just arrived! My God I knew this thing was long but… Wow that’s just the spine of the book
I’m still excited and I’m determined to get through it
Kabsal asking shallan for the jam
Shallan: Can you Please stop fighting with your boyfriend right now?
Kaladin: That is literally your husband, not my boyfriend.
Adolin: You tell her, babe!
Kaladin: Rock, are you crying?
Rock: It’s just.. this is such a sad book.
Kaladin: That is a cookbook.
Rock: I know, these recipes fucking suck.
Adolin: Sure, I’m a little stupid. But that’s like 80% of my charm.
Shallan: What’s wrong with you?
Kaladin: Off the top of my head, I’d say low self-esteem, a shitty personal history, and a genetic predisposition for anxiety and depression.
Jasnah: If I disappear under mysterious circumstances, don’t come looking for me. I meant to do that.
Hoid: Shallan, have you ever considered that your little anxiety problems may actually be serious mental illness?
Shallan: What’s *serious* mental illness anyway, are you implying there are carefree, happy go lucky ones? If so, I’d love to trade my anxiety for one of those.
Shallan at a feast, drunk off her ass: If I go to silent hill and there any of those thotty little nurse bimbos trying to stab me I’m fucking stealing shit.
~a few days later~
Renarin, joking: Shallan I liked what you had to say about silent hill but I’m gay so if you could say something about pyramid head?
~a few days later~
Shallan at a feast, dead sober: If i go to silent hill and pyramid head doesn’t have his fucking cock out I’m driving my horse into the lake.
Shallan: Tell me your wildest fantasy.
Adolin: I’m on the Wheel of Fortune and I spin it so hard it lights on fire.
Shallan: No, I meant-
Adolin: Everybody claps.
Adolin: I sleep with a knife under my pillow.
Kaladin: Pfft, I sleep with a spear.
Shallan: You’re both weak as fuck.
Kaladin: Okay, what do you sleep with?
Shallan:Adolin.
*in the groupchat*
Adolin: lol I’m dying help.
Kaladin:Mood.
Shallan: LMAO same
Renarin: Rip, what’s up?
Adolin: No, I’m bleeding out.
Adolin: Someone stabbed me in the Urithiru parking lot.
*several people are typing*
Shallan: I want to wake up with you every day for the rest of our lives.
Adolin: I wake up at 4:30AM every day to train.
Shallan: I want to see you at some point every day for the rest of our lives.
Kaladin: I’m having a midlife crisis.
Shallan: You’re not at midlife
Kaladin: Quarterlife crisis.
Shallan: That’s arguable as well.
Kaladin: Then what the fuck am I supposed to call it?
Shallan: Just crisis?
Kaladin: Just crisis.
Dalinar: I’m benching you for this one, son.
Kaladin, fresh out of the chasm: You’re FIRING me??
Dalinar: No, I- you’re in no condition to come along.
Kaladin:Unbelievable..
Kaladin: But reasonable
Adolin: Careful, you’re making this sparring scene kinda homoerotic.
Adolin:WYA?
Kaladin: I’m at my fucking limit..
I’ve started rereading The Way of Kings and am noticing a few things.
First, the risk that Sabderson took starting it the way he did. Three different time periods and viewpoint characters before the fourth chapter finally gives us a current-time, main character viewpoint. If I was Sanderson’s editor when he was pitching this, I’d be finding the Cenn viewpoint the hardest sell.
- The Kelek one is short, hints at vastly powerful forces, ends with the creation of a great mythic lie, and the “4,500 years later” gives things a properly epic feel.
- The Szeth one is fantastic - it starts with an iconic line, has an engaging magic battle scene, and sets up a central mystery: why did the Parshendi betray the alliance and have Gavilar assassinated. It explains enough but not too much of the context (mechanics of Szeth’s ‘magic’ powers: yes; details of the concept of Truthless and reasons behind Shin veneration of stone: no).
- But the Cenn one has the combined challenges that this isn’t a main character, dies (though we don’t yet know it) at the end of the scene, and isn’t an interesting person in and of himself. If I was the editor, I’d be asking “Why can’t we have the Kaladin POV here?” But the more we see of Kaladin, the clearer it becomes why his introduction had to be done this way. The contrast between Kaladin in the Cenn-POV chapter and the despairing Kaladin in the slave wagon in the next chapter gains its power and drama from two things: the contrast between who Kaladin was then and now, and the contrast between how others see Kaladin and how he sees himself. Kaladin in that battle wouldn’t have seen himself as the heroic, nearly-miraculous figure his soldiers see him as: rescuing Cenn by fighting six-on-one and killing all his enemies in a matter of seconds, then turning into a healer and bandaging his wounds; training his men to operate as a unit unlike anyone else on the battlefield; spending most of his pay on bribing the support staff to evacuate his wounded; bribing other commanders to give him recruits who seemed militarily useless. He’d have taken that for granted. Kaladin (later) reacts to being pretty much miraculously resurrected by despairing and thinking he’s a failure. The switch of perspective at the start is necessary for us to realize early on that the way Kaladin percieves himself does not line up with objective reality or with other people’s perceptions, and necessary for us to realize how impressive he was, and how others reacted to him, before his enslavement. It’s the essential backdrop for all the horrible early chapters in the slave wagons and Bridge 4. But the necessity of that only becomes apparent once the reader has spent a while with Kaladin.
The second thing I’m noticing is that, while on my first read-through I was overwhelmed and not picking up on this, Sanderson does leave us a trail of breadcrumbs to follow. In the first chapter, four people are named: Kalak, Jezrien, Talenel, and Ishar. Then, only a few pages later, Szeth passes the states “depicting the Ten Heralds from ancient Vorin theology”, naming four: “Jezerezah, Ishi, Kelek, Talenelat.” The names are similar enough that it’s possible to put the pieces together. Even in Kaladin’s first chaptet, the mention of windspren stucking things to other things can recall Szeth’s Full Lashings.
Another thing that jumped out at me: in the first chapter, Kelek mentions “red, orange, and violet” blood on the battlefield. Parshendi blood is orange, but who on Roshar has violet blood?
I once asked about the violet blood in a discord, and someone guessed that it might be Aimians (presumably the Axies model, rather than the Sleepless), but as far as I know there’s no definitive answer.
Thank you!