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There are a lot of iconic squads of fictional characters out there who play off each other to absolute perfection. They keep us coming back for more and inspire fanfiction and fanart and shoving whatever piece of media they come from down the throats of everyone we know.
(Just me?)Frodo and Sam. Sherlock and Watson. Sam and Dean. The Gaang. Whether they’re siblings, lovers, frenemies, or bitter rivals, character dynamics can bring life to a work of fiction in a way few other things can.
What are your favorite character dynamics? Do you prefer duos or an entire squad? What elements in a dynamic make it truly *chef’s kiss*? Do your preferences differ if you’re the reader as opposed to the writer?
I’ll start things off with two of my favorite character dynamics/tropes. The first is grizzled and/or gruff loner character who Does Not Form Attachments that adopts the smol bean who is a living ray of sunshine or otherwise just their child/charge now. From John Silver taking Jim Hawkins under his wing in Treasure Planet to the titular Mandalorian forming a clan of two with Baby Yoda, I cannot get enough of this trope. It tugs at the heart strings and sets up great potential for suspense, strife, and angst. There’s something about the innocence of the smol bean proving the warmth of their rough and tough guardian and bringing out their potential for good, especially in the context of a more morally ambiguous character.
The second dynamic is enemy-to-adopted-weird-uncle-who-still-hasn’t-really-changed-sides-exactly. The most prototypical example of this is Hector Barbosa in the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy. He’s the primary antagonist of the first film, but by the third (spoilers) he’s marrying two of the heroes mid-battle. He’s not exactlyfriends with the good guys, but at the same time, he is. The longstanding comedic irony in this group dynamic is one of the primary draws for me, as well as that unique push and pull of being fond of someone you can’t necessarily trust to be on your side. I revel in the massive grey area of these kinds of relationships.
I don’t know that I have a true preference for group dynamics or one-on-ones, but group dynamics often prove to be more difficult to balance. There’s actually a pretty clean split between my two active WIPs. In The Calm Before, it’s more a series of one-on-one dynamics, while Here There Be Monsters has to deal more with how a larger group interacts and relates as a whole.
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I love character dynamics like you’ve mentioned! I’m such an absolute sucker for stoic, brooding characters who adopt a cheerful companion as well. I have a relationship like that in a wip of mine and it’s just,,,,lovely. Another one I love is best friends ganging up on everyone else, whether it be through pranks or morals or a heartfelt moment, you know They’re always going to stick together no matter what.
Yessss the Power of Friendship ™! I’m always onboard for an unshakeable group of ride-or-die friends. What do you think the greatest challenge is in writing a stoic character/cheerful companion dynamic?
Finding a balance, definitely! You want them to get along but you don’t want it to feel forced, the stoic character won’t instantly love the cheerful one’s personality unless the point of the plot is that they do. Depending on what you want to go for, the two can fall for each other’s personalities instantly or have a long, hard trek to acceptance and love, platonic or romantic.
Dig them up; let’s finish what we’ve started
Dig them up, so nothing’s left untouched
(this made more sense before the words started melting together in my mind lmfao
Leo is having a hard time being the new leader. He doesnt want to let his family down)
expressing your needs, your emotions, your boundaries and your concerns will not drive away people that are committed to being in your life. wanting to be treated with respect, knowing your worth and acting accordingly is never asking for too much in any kind of safe or healthy connection.
the elephant in the room when it comes to the “we must protect our children” objections by conservative politicians is that they are not referring to living, breathing children, but a platonic concept of “a child” that children are coerced into emulating through abuse kneaded by both the state and their parents. The lack of rights children possess is to render them unable to object to what adults claim to do for their own good, which oftentimes are merely just means to maintain them as property than help them as people. The idea that teaching 6th graders very basic, very clinical sex ed is child abuse stems from the fear that their parents lose some control over their child’s autonomy by having the child know things (which, statically, also makes them more likely to tell someone when they are being abused by an adult. Interesting) that the parent has not sanctioned as a part of their person. Conservatives accuse everyone else of child abuse not because they care that a child is being hurt, but because hurting children is only their god given right.
You know one of the shittiest parts of chronic pain?
Sympathy has an expiration date.
If you’re hurting because you broke your leg, people can sympathize with you, because there’s an end-date. Eventually your leg will heal and you’ll be okay again. People will coo and coddle and bring you chocolates and sign your cast because they know that’s emotional labor that they will only have to perform temporarily.
But if you have a chronic condition that causes you daily pain, after awhile, people get annoyed with having to deal with you. They ask you what’s wrong, and when you reply with the same thing that was wrong last week, or the week before, or the month before, you eventually get an incredulous, “Still?”
Or maybe they’re not that overt. Maybe instead they go, “Oh, just that. Okay.” As if today’s pain should somehow be fine for them to ignore because it’s nothing new. No need to worry: it’s just the same old same old.
Let me tell you: Pain never gets easy to handle. It’s not like people with chronic pain develop an immunity to it, or that we stop feeling it. Sure, some of us get better at ignoring it, or better at living around it, but honestly? Most of us just get better at hiding it, because we get tired of feeling like an emotional burden to everyone around us.
But that doesn’t mean that we’re not hurting, and it sort of sucks that long-term pain, in addition to all the other fun things it entails, also eventually comes with a revoked right to be sympathized with, or even just treated like something other than a whiny attention-grabbing faker (or worse: a drug-seeker).
Chronic pain is real. And it sucks. And one of the worst parts about it is knowing it’s never going to end.
It would just be cool if people could try understand that, I guess.
Time for a rant that no one asked for
ok so today Sony announced that there next Spider-man related film is a movie about El Muerto staring Bad Bunny
Now I’m pretty sure most of you when you heard this news where like this
Now as someone who actually knows who this is because I read the comic he’s in, and being Hispanic myself I was like this
Yeah I’m not at all excited by this at all, if anything I feel insulted, this is Sony’s big Spider-man related announcement, a one off villain who only appeared in two issues of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man, (literary all the images there using for the promotion come from those two issues) yes a side comic not even the main Amazing Spider-man comic, this is suppose to get us excited to see more of these Sony marvel movies, really.
And what makes this worse to me is that Sony is playing this up as a big diversity win, “The First Hispanic lead Superhero movie” and being Mexican myself I feel insulted, I can guarantee that no Hispanic nerds where asking for this, no one was asking for an El Muerto movie, and to think that this good enough to get that win is insulting, like we will just take anything
You know why Black fans love characters like, Black Panther, Luke Cage, and Storm, it’s not just because there black, it’s because there black and are cool, and so they can see themselves being cool as well, just being visible is not enough, we also need to be seen as cool, and appealing, and trust me El Muerto is not cool at all.
On top of all of this, Sony scraping past the bottom of the Spider-man barrel to find there Hispanic lead superhero movie is unnecessary, seeing as there are plenty of Hispanic/Latino Spider-man characters to pick from who are not only much more recognizable, but are simply much cooler than El Muerto
You have Miguel O’Hara AKA Spider-man 2099
You have Anya Corazon AKA Spider-girl/ Araña
You have Anton Miguel Rodriquez AKA Tarantula
Sony has all these amazing Hispanic characters at there disposal and they just choose not to use any of them, and instead choose the most obscure of obscure characters, if Morbious couldn’t get people in the theater, then what makes them think this will?
This is literally what I was saying. Really? El Muerto? When Miguel O'hara is RIGHT THERE!? The entire 2099 landscape is wide open giving you the mass-appeal of Spider-Man without having to be tied to the MCU. Plus you’ve already got the hype from him appearing in Spider-Verse. Just a blank slate of Spider-possibilities available and you pick El Muerto? Sony c'mon! Let’s go to the 928 universe!
There is so much love in consensual cruelty
- When I yank your head back by your hair I want to see your vulnerability
- When I hurt you I want to see the trust you have in me mixed with your pain
- When I deny you I’m increasing your pleasure later. I am giving you what you want in my own way
- When I order you around I am solidifying your dedication to me
- When I spank you I am claiming you. You are mine and in that same breath I am yours
Every spank, hair pull, and act of dominance is “I love you” written in actions. I want to show you how much I care. Show you that you are loved, cared for, wanted, and lusted after. Always.
It shouldn’t have taken a white person backing up his statements for film twitter to pay attention and listen to Ray Fisher, but I am so proud of Charisma Carpenter for speaking up about her experiences, and I hope both of them (and any other actor who’s suffered at that man’s hand, but maybe doesn’t have the resources or voice to publicly speak on it) continued healing, love, and support.
Wait. They aren’t jokes. You guys really keep dozens of tabs open on your browser forever.
What if I want to return to my search for obscure russian idioms or go back to rereading 17776? What am I supposed to do, spontaneously remember that that was a thing I was doing, completely unprompted by visual stimulus or external reminders, and renew my search from the beginning in a fresh new tab?
No, my cluttered nightmare of tabs is a way better solution if i ever even hope to come close to getting back to the things i leave for later.
Okay but the end of ep 2 was absolutely brilliant. I was thinking that Hye Jung had found a purpose and stability too soon, but it was honestly so in character. It’s obvious she throws herself into whatever she does, whether it be being a gangster or a star students so it makes sense that she would succeed early on. No, what was more moving than seeing her succeed was how she dealt with a failure. Because she’s never had anyone to protect besides herself. It would be so easy for her to have claimed Ji Hong had forced himself on her, but she didn’t. She tried to sacrifice herself. For the first time in her life, she found something other than herself worht fighting for. She found stability and a place in this world in such a short amount of time, and Hye Jung not being able to do anything but watch as her new purpose, her new family literally goes up in flames was brilliant and heartbreaking
In case anyone has ever miss understood me
I dislike the bottom/top discussion when people turn it into a personality where like, The ‘bottom’ is legit submissive and seen as weaker.
I dislike that because it’s a homophobic way of portraying the relationship.
There’s a huge difference between ‘i think this person is a bottom because they like it’ and ‘i think this person is a bottom because they’re shorter, weaker and more ‘feminine’ (aka, seeing a MlM relationship through a het lens)
The first one is fine. People have preferences and that’s part of being an adult. Knowing your preferences.
The second is gross because it’s turning a really potentially interesting dynamic into a really warped viewing of that dynamic
Imagine how you would feel when your Anbu captain is literally half your size
No wonder they didn’t like him, being ordered, scolded and outranked by a shrimp who’s smarter, faster and stronger than them must really hurts lol
whenever i listen to fall out boy it doesnt matter if i hear the first 3 seconds or im listening to it for an hour. im always ready to fight. who am i fighting? my arch nemesis? the fictional characters i hate the most? my own ass? i don’t know all i know is that im ready to fight
YES. I HAVE SAID THIS ALL ALONG.
i wanna die but in the fun minecraft way where you respawn at home
The term “POC” (people/person of color) is thrown around loose and fast on Tumblr, and many times quite inappropriately as well. This can lead to the erasure of lived experiences, neo-imperialistic projections onto non-Western contexts and ultimately can reinforce white supremacy in turn. I find the rampant abuse of this term on and off of Tumblr (but especially on this platform) to be exasperating to say the least. It’s one of many reasons that I’ve grown increasingly tired of even engaging with conversations on here, but a recent conversation I had with another friend, who has already left tumblr, prompted me to write this short list for one of my Tumblr major pet-peeves.
So with that let us begin, HOW NOT TO USE THE TERM POC (in 2 steps):
1. Non-Western Contexts
As a Nigerian I find this to be especially irritating. I have seen people throw race into the #BringBackOurGirls conversation, even as Nigeria is a more than 99% “black” country where we do not even consciously identify as black ourselves because (ding ding) basically EVERYONE is black! We do not see ourselves as black in the context of Nigeria, but now we are suddenly “persons of color”? I can hear my Nigerian aunties hissing at the thought even as I write this.
I also once saw someone on tumblr call Ghana a “majority POC” nation and I was absolutely floored. In yet another country where people don’t even identify as black, suddenly they are now “POC” as well? This is Western centrism and cavalier neo-imperialistic projections of Western racial politics onto the wider world in action. Race is a social construct which varies tremendously from place to place, and taking a flat view of race on a global scale is myopic to say the least. Calling Nigeria and Ghana nations of “POC” is not only flat out wrong, but it is an erasure that reinforces Western hegemony in turn. We want nothing to do with your word “POC” in our countries, as it has no meaning in the context of our lives there.
At this point it’s important to remember that the term “POC” is a Western political term for organizing in Western contexts against white supremacy. Again, it has no use in a country like Nigeria or Ghana where basically everyone is “black” (by our definition, even though, again we must note that people from these countries don’t even consciously identify with a racial marker like “black” until coming to the West). It also has no use in other “majority POC” nations. For example, how useful is a term like “POC” in a country like Saudi Arabia, where there is brutal, local Arab supremacy rooted in a largely independent history as well? How useful is it in any east Asian country where not even “Asian solidarity” exists given the history and tremendous animus between various peoples in the region? The answer is short- it doesn’t apply. Context is critical. Please stop abusing the term “POC” in non-Western contexts. When you do so, you’re talking over people from these countries, being Western-centric and erasing their lived experiences in turn. Stop.
2. When antiblackness and other specific forms of racialized oppression occur
As a community, many of us black people are still mourning the loss of our murdered son, Trayvon Martin, killed by antiblackness and failed by a virulently white supremacist and antiblack justice system. Yes, other POC are victims of racial violence and hate crimes all of the time, but this specific tragedy was a black tragedy. Trayvon Martin was killed in that neighborhood because he was a black boy whose black body was immediately interpreted by George Zimmerman as a security threat that needed to be tracked, followed, and ultimately extinguished and destroyed. Again this is antiblackness in action.
But to my great surprise, in the midst of our grief, we find other POC waxing long about this being a “POC tragedy.” No, it’s not a POC tragedy, it’s a black tragedy as he was killed for being black. Stating blandly that this is just about some general struggle that all “POC” go through is a form of violence against black people and an erasure of the particularities of our struggle as well. People love to do this with black tragedies in particular, piggy-backing on our pain, but similarly, if someone told me that the murder of Vincent Chin, who was killed for being east Asian-American, was a “POC tragedy” I would also be horrified and disgusted.
In short, stop it. SPECIFY the form of oppression at play, because without doing so you are simply erasing lived experiences and perpetuating white supremacy and the violence against the community in question. Stop it.
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And there you have it. It sounds simple doesn’t it? Don’t apply the term “POC” to non-Western contexts and specify forms of oppression when you can in Western contexts. But people regularly fail to do these two simple things- perpetuating violence, white supremacy and Western dominance against marginalized communities across the globe. Please do use the term “POC” as a political organizing tool in the West– I understand its use and importance there and do use it myself in specific ways to encourage solidarity. But I simply have no time for any of the above and hope that one day the abuse of this ostensibly useful term will finally stop.
In line with what @wigglebox has said hereandhere, and what @cynifersharedhere, I want to add a few thoughts just to put them down and move on from the issue.
- The situation is weird and things don’t add up (how it started, the Stands tweets, etc); we don’t know quite what happened but it evidently spiraled out and turned into a mess. It sucks, but it’ll pass.
- Straight is the label he’s shared with us, and all respect to that. Of course. He has his reason(s) for it and he knows them better than we do.
- Straight, however, doesn’t necessarily mean 0-on-the-Kinsey-Scale-never-had-a-single-homoerotic-thought-in-my-life. Sexuality is a spectrum and straight doesn’t fall outside of it.
- Even if Misha were a Kinsey 0 (and how likely is that, by his poems alone?) that doesn’t change the (wonderful) person he is, what he’s said and what he’s done. It doesn’t invalidate or erase all the stuff on the Cockles masterposts, for example.
- On that note, it also doesn’t change the fact that he knows about Cockles and is fine with fans having their fun.
The drama is, in the end, mostly about the emotion fueled clusterfuck of this weekend. We’ll know more about Misha’s life when and if he decides to. I really hope he’s okay and that he gets to a place where it’s easier than this.
Meanwhile, I think it can be business as usual in fandom. We can tinhat or speculate as long as we follow the usual rules of keeping it respectful and within the fandom.
I’m probably forgetting something or not explaining properly, but that’s what I got right now.
Love this quote from a DANGEROUS LIES review…
Whilst Dangerous Lies might appear to be a thriller on the surface, it’s actually a very complex novel about how the people we love and trust the most might not always have our best interests at heart.
I think it’s kinda funny when people bring up the fact that Hawks is a hypocrite like it’s some kind of revelation and not his biggest, most defining personality trait.
Like, his whole character is based on the ideology that sometimes you have to do bad things for a good reason. As long as there is a net-positive result from an action, that action is excusable and even morally correct. That’s a running theme in his life that has affected his family, his career, and his current choices in the war. Of course Hawks excuses Endeavor; he’s the number one hero whose saved countless people during his lifetime and also, is kind of necessary as they fight in what is essentially a quirk apocalypse. Of course Hawks is trying to justify his killing of Twice; Twice has killed hundreds of people and is a known terrorist, who Hawks considered an active threat.
But the whole point is that Hawks’s ideology contradicts Deku’s (and therefore the narrative’s) belief that actually, no, doing a bad thing is always still just doing a bad thing and not morally correct. Hawks is supposed to be wrong. You’re supposed to see his character and realize that, while fundamentally he is trying to do the right thing, the way he goes about it is only leading to more suffering. You’re not meant to agree with all of his actions. He’s part of a bygone era, and chapter 354 is actively pointing out that he’s aware of that, and is currently fighting for a future that can be better than the one he was a part of.
Now, whether or not Horikoshi gets this across in the story especially well is an entirely different conversation, but yk.
I think a lot about how we as a culture have turned “forever” into the only acceptable definition of success.
Like… if you open a coffee shop and run it for a while and it makes you happy but then stuff gets too expensive and stressful and you want to do something else so you close it, it’s a “failed” business. If you write a book or two, then decide that you don’t actually want to keep doing that, you’re a “failed” writer. If you marry someone, and that marriage is good for a while, and then stops working and you get divorced, it’s a “failed” marriage.
The only acceptable “win condition” is “you keep doing that thing forever”. A friendship that lasts for a few years but then its time is done and you move on is considered less valuable or not a “real” friendship. A hobby that you do for a while and then are done with is a “phase” - or, alternatively, a “pity” that you don’t do that thing any more. A fandom is “dying” because people have had a lot of fun with it but are now moving on to other things.
I just think that something can be good, and also end, and that thing was still good. And it’s okay to be sad that it ended, too. But the idea that anything that ends is automatically less than this hypothetical eternal state of success… I don’t think that’s doing us any good at all.
The Issue with Multiverse of Madness: Wanda’s Characterization
I really wanted to like Doctor Strange In the Multiverse of Madness, but Wanda’s characterization kind of ruined it for me. Honestly, the writers seemingly erased all her character development from WandaVision.*spoilers ahead*
The whole point of Wanda’s arc in WV is that she went through all the stages of grief, and in the finale, she reached a point of acceptance. She got a sort of closure. She accepted the loss of her family and made peace with it, acknowledging that preserving her family was not worth the cost of innocent lives. So you’re telling me that it makes sense for her to then turn around and murder tons of innocent people so she can get her family back? When the exact opposite of that was literally the point of her character development? Honestly, I feel betrayed.
MoM reversed (or straight-up ignored) her arc. The WV finale made it seem like she was getting a fresh start, albeit a bittersweet one. This movie made it clear that isn’t happening. Even though she redeemed herself in the end by sacrificing herself, Wanda is an amazing character who deserved so much better than this! She deserved better than erased character development, becoming a mass murderer, and then getting killed off. I also resent how in the WV finale she finally came into herself and reached her true potential with this incredible moment of transformation, and then they turned her into a crazy, murderous villain. Yes, I know the Darkhold corrupts its readers, but still! That wasn’t shown. If the whole movie had been Wanda reading it more and slowly sliding into evil and obsession, that would have felt more believable. As it is, Wanda going from closure and acceptance straight to this level of “evil obsessive villain” felt wrong on so many levels.
Also, where the heck did the White Vision storyline go? In WV, Wanda’s Vision gives White Vision his memories and essentially his consciousness, and it was kind of implied that now White Vision embodies everything about the Vision we know and love in the MCU. So, theoretically, he could be with Wanda, and things wouldn’t have been much different. There was every opportunity for (and plenty of hints toward) a happier storyline for Wanda where she gets to continue on her journey of healing. She didn’t get that, and I don’t see any good reason why not.
Basically, just because you can go with a certain storyline or twist doesn’t mean you should.
I have to agree. DSMOM has other issues–chief among them the fact that Strange remains a rather two-dimensional character, also that they introduced America Chavez as a victim incapable of heroism before Strange’s pep talk magically fixes her–but the shortchanging of Wanda’s story/characterization is the most egregious. We’re just told “the Darkhold did this to her” without seeing it, without getting any sense of her other choices, anything. The only reason the movie works at all is Elizabeth Olsen’s powerhouse performance, which finds whatever honesty the material is capable of possessing.
And given the incredibly picayune moments Marvel has chosen to pull actors in for cameos, it’s RIDICULOUS that they couldn’t get Paul Bettany for at least one scene in Wanda’s ideal universe, because he would absolutely be there. Like, my love for Patrick Stewart’s Professor X is vast and unending, but all the Illuminati cameos didn’t mean as much to this story as 15 seconds of Vision would have.