Me @ Isayama about the whole chapter:

To say I hated ch 139 is an understatement. There are like 2 good things that I liked (all about the warriors and Levi) but the rest is so awful.

I don’t believe that the AU thing that Mikasa sees it’s an alternate reality/timeline where she confessed to Eren. I mean, Eren could NEVER see alternate timelines, only the one and only future that was going to happen. Everything that was shown about the Attack Titan power proved it: how Eren manipulated the past to have Grisha kill the Reiss family was something that had “already happened”, not that Eren just changed with Zeke (like Grisha was not going to do it without Eren). How Grisha saw the Rumbling in the future, Kruger saw Armin and Mikasa etc, Eren himself so the rumbling for what was going to be, even the “See you later, Eren” was just a real memory from his death probably sent to the past.

There is no way to know what would have been if she had told the truth, not even for Eren. Eren showed her his idea of what could have happened, maybe, but NOT THE FUTURE. And let’s be real, Eren could have changed his mind and went through with the Rumbling regardless if just one thing had went the wrong way. So Mikasa, don’t yourself up over it.

Eldians and Merleyans in chapter 136:

If Isayama chickens out of the “Eren is bad” plot, I will be upset. No matter how you look at it, Eren was in control during the flashbacks and all the way up to unleashing the power of the founder. We have chapters from his point of view, so there’s not much going around it. Eren knew exactly what was going to happen because when he sees the two brothers he later has killed by the Rumbling, he knew they were going to die. And Eren knew all of it when he tried to contact his brother and for all the time he worked with the Yeagerists. He’s not less at fault because now it’s Ymir who is materially leading the titans, if that’s what Armin was implying in the last chapter.

If it ends with Eren being forgiven or ending up ‘not as bad as it seemed’, Isayama’d better come up with somethinggoodthat explains it. Not just something that makes sense (that’s a given at this point) but something really good and satisfying because anything half-assed at the end just to prove Eren was good all along would be a joke.

People trying to come up with a reason why Eren isn’t an evil mass murder VS people trying to explain why Dean has that expression while Cass confessed his love for him while being in love ™ with him

Will Zeke become the new King? I don’t know since, probably not since he’s got less than a year to live….but was that his agenda?

As a kid Zeke wasn’t very treated loved by his parents, I guess Grisha and Dina did love him, but trust me when I say that he was probably only born to carry out Grisha’s plan/wish to liberate the Eldian people….beautiful yet sad when you think about it.

But…I don’t think Zeke despises the plan his father had as much as he despised his father. Maybe he did see truth in what Grisha said and still wanted to carry out the plan,

But maybe things changed along the road when he found out his father had another son, behind the walls and not only that, his brother even possesses the Founding Titan.

What do you guys think? Zeke get’s a lot of shit for doing what he did, but can you blame him? Eren was treated better by Grisha so of course he wouldn’t hate and object what his father did as much as Zeke would, I don’t know what happened in that 4 year time period though, maybe one of them was able to persuade the other.

I pointed it out before, but the face Zeke makes in the 2nd panel already gave away he was working with Eren, or at least he was on his mind

Thoughtless big brother

I might sound dumb but I need to know, how will Eren use Zeke? I see theories about Eren eating Zeke, that just doesn’t make sense to me.

If Eren could activate the coordinate by touching Dina, wouldn’t holding hands with Zeke be more than enough?

A small thread theory about the Ackerbond [Mikasa]

Remember when Reiner and Bertolt releaved themselves to Eren as the titans that breached the walls? Mikasa was hesitatimg at first to attack, however now when I watch the scene where she attacks the two, all that comes to mind is that she did that on instinct.

She knew she had to protect Eren but her body moved on it’s own, why else would she say, I wonder why I couldn/t kill them, I believe her subconcious was telling her [the real mikasa] not to kill her friends, but her ackermannblood was telling her to fight and protect Eren at all cost.

I do believe Mikasa has free will and that she is no slave, however I do believe that through out the series she has relied on her ackermannblood and has let it take control of her without realizing it herself.

Eren was kinder to Reiner than he was to Armin

Wtf

Seeing Dina’s picture and Faye’s shoe we can expect the basement scene until the end of the RTS arc.

Which mean we either get the Marley arc fall of 2019 or spring of 2020! Can’t wait

S3 is getting split up according to the news we got through Twitter, meaning it will end in two episodes and continue somewhere I GUESS April of next year

I think this season will end with Reiner and Bertolt awaiting the scouts on the wall, you know the one where Reiner has his blanket

And then in April we’ll finally have RTS arc…it’s just my suspicion, but I think it might be the truth

You guys know that Isayama himself worked close with the directors and animators this season to change a bunch of things he did in the manga, right?

He even said he felt the uprising arc was his weakest work and wanted to improve it, since it was published he had no choice, but now that it’s getting animated has a chance to mold it into what he wanted.

So don’t give WIT too much shit for doing what they’re told to do.

This is why I love Magath

He was afraid they’d lose their lives, he didn’tnwant to send just 4 kids to Paradis because he knew they’d either die or get heavily wounded. Not only that everytime he has to order them around he looks pained…..he is hurt by Zeke’s betrayal, he is hurt he has to treat Eldians the way he has to….THEO MAGATH I AM SO HAPPY THAT ISAYAMA HAS CREATED YOU AND KEPT YOU ALIVE

The uprising arc is gonna start which is great but I am honestly just very excited for the RTS arc!

@kacchand (i couldn’t tag your main but i wanted to make sure you saw this fdlkjfdlkj) 

hello dear! i’m sorry it took me so long to respond to this dflskjfdlkfdj i decided to answer your ask in a text post so i can link my thoughts to yours more easily! also, i know i’m going to Ramble, so i wanted to be able to keep it under a cut sdlkfjd

Hi rowan!! I’ve just finished the final chapter of aot and I just wanted to ask your opinion on it!

(SPOILERS THAT DEPICT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE STORY’S MEANING AHEAD. READ ONLY IF YOU’VE FINISHED THE CHAPTER)

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I’d also like to ask a follow up question about it, because it seems that I’ve come to a different concl. from many of my friends and I’m feeling dumb abt how i feel w it.

first of all (and i say this as sincerely as possible, and if i’m coming off as condesending pleaselet me know hh), please don’t feel dumb because you’ve come to a different conclusion :(

we all read media at different levels (i’ve been told it’s ‘not that deep’ before fdljkfsdlkj) and identify different aspects in it, so the fact that you’ve had a different experience to some of your friends is absolutely not a reflection on your intelligence. and if anyone’s making you feel that way, drop their @. i just want to talk :) furthermore, you’re not wrongfor responding to something emotionally, especially if it really… makes you uncomfortable, you know? 

i’m from the PH & I’ve put off determining whether i’m comfy w the manga til the last chap,,,, but is it wrong that I can’t shake the feeling that it’s a justification of japanese expansionism and genocide? ik this manga has always been in the grey area, and that’s what I love abt it! It often shows that no choice they make is absolutely good or bad, and does such a good job at showing you how each complex character came to that understanding (role of environment, etc…) but this last chapter felt too positive abt the rumbling? Like it was justified because paradis was able to advance and there wasn’t much choice? idk.

that’s totally valid! some of the best think pieces on the show i read mentioned that the concern with the narrative is less “is isayama a nazi sympathiser?” (he most likely isn’t), but if he’s a imperial japan apologist. and…

well, let’s just say that my father is british, and when i was trying to say that colonisation was bad, using british india as an example, he said “well, we gave them railroads.” it’s… it’s uncomfortable and gross and i think it encapsulates how countries with imperial pasts tend to talk about them; even if they don’t officiallyendorse it, there’s often a lot of talk about how “well colonialism was good for this country, actually–”

and if the manga felt like it was justifying japanese expansionism, then chances are it had elements that very much did point towards that. i’ve had a lot of trouble grappling with reiner, annie and bertolt, because they’ve existed in this grey area of ‘victim of oppression’ and 'war criminal’; and their existence raises the question of “do people who commit war crimes simply do what needs to be done?” and by victimising them it… it plays into the whole nuremberg defense of “i was just following orders”. it’s making you feel badfor the people committing said war crimes (and similarly with eren, and all the awful things he’s done). but i’ll get more into this point later dsfkjfd

i haven’t read the last chapter yet (and don’t worry about spoilers! i’ve been approaching aot from a very… specific perspective anyway, so i actually don’t mind spoilers – i read a bunch of analyses of the series before i’d even watched it hh), but… i think if it came off as too positive about, you know… an awful thing that happened, then it absolutely makes sense that you’d feel uncomfortable?

the modernisation narrative in general is one that always skeeves me out. it’s one japanese imperialists use to justify the invasion of korea (and even those infamous tweets from the one account purported to be isayama talk about how the population of korea boomed under japanese imperial occupation, which… stop.)

it’s also commonly invoked in cases of development. certain members of society (usually the poor), just 'had’ to die for the good of the future. who gives a damn if they consent to that? they have to.

similarly, the 'we had no choice’ narrative. that’s… a concerning one that crops up time and again with history apologists, the argument that “oh if x country hadn’t done y, then someone else would’ve!” or that acts of aggression were done as pre-emptive self-defence, which is so… ugh. i just. i just hate it.

It also feels really weird w the ymir and the whole loving fritz thing. i wish we got to see more of her thought process and what conclusion she came to that led her to destroying the power of the titans.

i… hate this so much. i get that abuse is complicated and victims often have multifaceted feelings towards their abusers, but… most people would focus on that in their story? the story would be aboutthat? but instead, it’s just… a thing in the history of the world and that’s… icky.

also having the genesis of the titans come from a slave girl in love with her captor… there’s many levels of ick to it and i highly doubt it was handled with the appropriate level of grace and sensitivity.

honestly, this might be one of the things that pissed me off the most because of how… contradictory her backstory was with That One Chapter (you know, instead of ymir crying because she wants to be free or because she’s been trapped she…….. wants to see mikasa kiss eren’s decapitated head? i guess? what the fuck?) 

idk…I just think that context is sometimes everything. and i understand that media can portray incorrect things,,,, and that isayama likely didn’t intend for it to become a global sensation, but i guess i’m just uncomfortable w the right wing nazis getting a comfort book ahaha.

i totally get that! even if attack on titan is meant to be anti-fascists, the fact of the matter is… a lot of fascists love it. and relate to it. which is… alarming. especially given just how popular aot is worldwide.

it’s hard because before the ending, attack on titan did feel like it was more grey; i remember saying that i wouldn’t know how to feel about it until the ending because the story was either saying “the military is corrupt and war is hell”, or it was saying “the military is corrupt and war is hell, but it is necessary.” 

still sorting out my thoughts, but yeah. I think i’m having a hard time understanding what they really accomplished with the rumbling and how they gave eren a sudden lelouch role and a lot of how they made it out to be a happy thing? perhaps I’m too biased to see it fully but to me it gives a “woah. eren was a hero. he saved us from destruction. those people needed to die for us to achieve this temporary peace and new start”. i suppose the rumbling gave them a levelled playing ground?

OH MY GOOOOOD okay. i haven’t finished code geass. but i really don’t like lelouch. i mean… i think i just don’t like characters that sacrifice other people for a purported 'greater good’ (i could write an Essay about how much i hate erwin smith looking at him is enough to send me into an unhinged rage), but where i’m up to in the anime, i don’t like the direction they’re going with eren? i mean, i’ve never liked eren, but… that whole “martyr for the eldians” is just. ew. especially when you see several eldian characters disagree and resist him. 

why does this one guy get to make choices for everyone else? because he’s sPeCiAL? fuck off 

sorry for not being coherent. maybe i’m basing this too much on feelings ahaha. trust aot to finish it’s scandalous run with a scandalous end.

no omg you’re being perfectly coherent :( also, if anyone’s making you feel bad or stupid for how you experience media, they’re… definitely not as smart as they think they are fdslskjfdlk. 

i’m of that mind that, while media consumption is in part an intellectual exercise, it is inherently very emotional; narrative media tries to make us feel as much as it makes us think. that’s what stories are for, you know? intellectual analysis is well and good but what’s the point of a story if it doesn’t make you feel anything?

that’s to say, i don’t believe there’s such thing as basing your opinion too much on feelings :’) especially since it’s your personal experience with a piece of media; you don’t owe anyone 'objectivity’ (which is always a farce when it comes to this sort of thing) or 'logical analysis’, because nobody’s got any right to criticise you for engaging with media the 'wrong way’.

tl;dr I feel like the mood was too celebratory abt the rumbling, and didn’t entail enough on the tragedy so much that it felt like a justification for genocide and expansionism. how do you feel abt it’s ending and the message it leaves? is isayama responsible to give a morally correct answer to the cycle of hatred? you’re not obligated to answer! and sorry for the rambling.

hhh yeah i guess that’s the thing at the end of the day… is isayama responsible for giving a “morally correct” answer? no, but the way the ending plays out is very telling. 

like armin thanking eren? mikasa’s e n t i r e character boiling down to being in love with a mass murderer no matter how poorly he’s treated her? and one could argue that kind of ending is supposed to be unsettling, supposed to hint that the cycle will just continue, but…

framing is everything. and it’s framed like a Good, Emotional Thing, Aren’t We So Grateful Eren Did All Those Awful Things 

YI think I would’ve been fine if we got to see more of Eren’s or Yif you have a different perspective on how eren is being portrayed please do share! I just felt really yucky watching armin say “thanks for murdering all those people for us” with love,,, I suppose he was trying to make eren feel better. ach maybe I’m just overreacting. idk. im dumb ahaha . i’ll send this in anyway cuz I’d love to hear your take!

HHHHHHH i just hate eren and i never got him. i felt badfor him in the beginning, but he’s always been too… violent for me. there was a very short period of time in season 2 where i felt bad for him, but otherwise it’s just been… ugh. the main three have always been the weakest part of the series imo, so it’s really not surprising they’re part of the reason the ending was so. bad. 

and… well, that one infamous quote pretty much sums up my issue with armin. he’s supposed to be the 'intelligent’ one, but he’s hopelessly devoted to a homicidal maniac with whom he has a very artificial, unbelievable bond with.

at the end of the day, the “thank you for becoming our monster” thing just makes it seem like attack on titan’s core message is “war is horrible, but it is necessary.” it feels like it’s justifying massacre. and while fiction is fiction, and sometimes it’s as simple as that, i think something as politically loaded as attack on titan needsto be looked at with a critical lens when discussing what it’s trying to say or what it means. 

do i think it makes someone a Bad Person for liking aot or being attached to it in some way? no, because that’s dumb, and what media someone likes =/= their Moral Goodness TM. ofc trends are a thing and certain pieces of media appeal to certain types of people, but it’s a false equivalency that misses the point. 

but by that same breath, nobody is wrong or stupid or has Less Valid Opinions just because what they took away from it makes them uncomfortable. 

i’m sorry this is So Long i have so many thoughts about this dskljfslkj 

but at the end of the day, 

levi sexy

Eren and Armin’s journey / ch. 139

textless version:

https://twitter.com/RenNohara/status/1404421459959685123/photo/1

“I felt it. That these trivial moments…might actually be precious…”

I’M IN LOVE ❤

Devote your hearts

Porco Galliard Keisuke Baji

Doing/saying something fucked up right before knowingly sacrificing themselves in the hopes that their friends will be upset with them instead of mourning them.

I have feeling Cabin Eren will be my demise when he is animated

art by @/satsuki_llab on twitter

Like nobody cares but I felt like I had to do this.

these are my goodbye words to the manga of snk:

(Sorry for my ingles)

I have my own little personal thoughts about the final chapter, I’m still trying to process the information and recover from the emotional shock I felt while reading it. I am so confused I’m not sure what I feel right now

But nothing changes how grateful I am to Isayama for all these years.

I love snk so much. I knew that no matter how the ending was shown, that was not going to change.

I really had a great time all these years, especially meeting Hange was something very meaningful to me. I’m crying I’m so sad and I wish it had lasted longer…

But anyway my favorite moments of the chapter were my three babies, I mean I knew I was going to cry but damn … Mikasa, Armin and Eren

that will be really hard to watch in the anime

(And I miss them ALL already)

this manga save me and I’m lucky to be able to say that I was part of this when it wasn’t over yet :’)

Thank you so much for all these years, thank you so much to the levihan and Hange fandom for share most of the experience with me

Thank you to Isayama for being a genius and to the little me who decided to watch snk and got so excited about the first episode that she watched it twice in a row

(What a weirdo)

Also another uninteresting little thing I probably won’t post for a while, it’s not like I do it often either but I’m just saying

This moment looks so different from the manga

I really thought that Mikasa had brought Gaby closer to her to protect her :(

I still love it but I prefer the manga

I want to talk about Hange in episode 13

Sorry for using panels from the manga but honestly in my opinion this episode was not my favorite (I loved it of course, but it’s not my favorite) I am a bit in a bad mood for some parts that were excluded or that were not appreciated so much. I know probably nobody cares except me. I’m not complaining, I’m giving my opinion so I hope no one comes to bother me in the comments :)

Anyway

It will always amazed me how I can love Hange more and more.

I mean, is that even possible ??

When I read this in the manga I was so touched by how big Hange’s heart is.

She knew who those children were and yet her first thought was to stop the whole situation.

In the anime you can’t appreciate it that much but Hange was the first person to reach out to help Falco

She didn’t have to be so attentive to him, so worried about him but she was because that’s just how Hange is

Even when Nicolo told her that it was surely too late, Hange stepped forward and began themself, despite being the commander to try to save Falco, to bathe him!!

I just … love her so much. Every episode I am so proud of her

all of you snk fandom after seeing this arc you are not allowed to ignore Hange anymore! YOU CAN’T

My boys!!!

I was never prepared for an ending without Jean and Connie

I wanted to say goodbye somehow talking a little about them

I always felt very close to Jean and Connie because they are both the characters that most resemble me.

Connie always seemed to me the character with the most sensitive heart

Despite all his suffering and having lost his entire family, Connie always cared about his friends.

My heart is broken just by thinking how he must have felt all this time taking care of his mother and still fighting for humanity.

And Jean I am so proud of him He is one of my favorite characters, one of the few characters that NEVER disappointed me. The way he matured and grew up all these years makes me so emotional I I really wanted to see him have the life he deserved.

Now I can say that the ending of snk lost its meaning a bit without Jean and Connie I feel like I care less now.

Definitely if I can’t see them being happy and alive then I’m not that excited about the ending

And I still can’t believe they’re really gone

ISAYAMA:

HANGE STANS:

there are still 2 chapters left to explain this

While everyone is confused and upset with the spoilers i’m just here posting Hange because i miss her so much

The moment has come.

For me this is the moment when everything stops being the same.

Not when Eren leaves paradise.

It’s when Sasha takes her last breath and everything starts getting more dark in the world of snk

When this happened in the manga I spent days feeling sad.

Sasha had the purest heart of all

It’s hard when a character as loving and warm-hearted as Sasha dies in such a cold and violent way.

It’s difficult to let go of a character that you, as a reader, feel so close.

Because Sasha was from the beginning a character that somehow I felt like I wanted to protect and one of the things I love most about snk is Sasha and Connie’s relationships. I am so grateful to see in an anime a soulmate relationship between a girl and a boy with no romance in between and It breaks my heart to think of Connie

But the story must go on…

And at the end I’m actually really thankful that it was Gabi. A kid victim of war. A kid who lost her friends in front of her eyes and who saw her home being destroyed.

Sasha’s death was a necessary death. Despite being unfair and cruel and heartbreaking, this had to happen…

But I miss her so much already :’(

❤❤❤

Sorry for my english