it will economically devastate women, forcing them to seek out and remain in relationships with (potentially abusive) men in order to avoid poverty. forced birth advocates often see this as protecting marriage and the family— the economic impact of forced birth on women is not just a consequence they don’t care about or haven’t foreseen, it’s THE POINT to keep us in our place.
poverty is used to keep a class of women sexually available to men through either marriage (conservatives) or prostitution (liberals)
The economic impact of forced birth on women is not just a consequence they don’t care about or haven’t foreseen, it’s THE POINT to keep us in our place.
If women can’t prevent pregnancy - and make no mistake about it, they are coming for hormonal contraceptives next - and can’t end a pregnancy, and can’t afford childcare for multiple children, then she can’t afford to stay in school or work full-time. And gosh, well, that just opens up a bunch of positions in higher education and the workforce for men, doesn’t it? If you think this is about anything other than forcing women out of the workforce and into marriage and families, you aren’t paying attention.
“About a third of our population is African American; African Americans have a higher incidence of maternal mortality. So, if you correct our population for race, we’re not as much of an outlier as it’d otherwise appear. Now, I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be. For whatever reason, people of color have a higher incidence of maternal mortality.”
There is no clearer way to say they they believe Black Lives Don’t Matter. Bill Cassidy wants you to know he only cares about the white population.
And then there’s the “for whatever reason” people of color die more in childbirth. Just sweep that right under the rug. - The reason is they don’t have access to the care they need because you defund things like planned parenthood and make access impossible.
Being pro choice is supporting women freedom to control what happens to there own body. You take away that choice and a women becomes a slave, property of the fetus and the state.
in light of the texas abortion ban here’s a reminder to stop debating what counts as a human, baby, or life with pro-lifers because that is not a debate you can win. you can not win a philosophical debate about what counts as a person, and you will not change their minds.
what can be proven is that in no situation under united states law is an individual legally obligated to lend their body or organs for the sake of another life.
4.5 million people each year are in need of blood transfusion, the entire process of donating blood takes a little over an hour, it’s free, and a single pint of blood can save up to 3 peoples lives, but there is no legal obligation or requirement to donate blood in place.
it is illegal to take organs from deceased peoples’ bodies without permission. CORPSES. bodily integrity is prioritized by law, even after death.
it doesn’t fucking matter whether a fetus is a person, whether a fetus is alive, whether a fetus has a soul. it literally doesn’t matter. pro-lifers set up the argument through that lens (hence their name) to evoke empathy and pity and take the focus away from the actual process of pregnancy, which changes a person’s body FOREVER. that is not an exaggeration. whether the pregnancy is complicated and high-risk or totally smooth sailing, the birthing person will physically never be the same. if they’re lucky, they’ll come out of it with weight gain, differently shaped breasts, and changes to the cervix/vagina. if they aren’t, there’s a fucking laundry list of potential complications that could arise, that may eventually fix themselves, need surgical or therapeutic intervention, or never go away, like varicose veins, separation of the abdominal muscles, incontinence, prolapse, diabetes, postpartum depression, and chronic pain, just off the top of my head. and this makes no mention of the very real possibility of income disruption, as well as the financial cost of giving birth, and the chance of fucking death, which is even higher for underserved communities like black women.
there is no basis for a governing body forcing an individual to lend their body or organs for the sake of another life. that is the argument. period the end.
Look obviously it’s virtually impossible to change peoples’ minds on this one but I have to say if you think “WELL AKTUALLY IT’S ILLEGAL TO MAKE SOMEONE DONATE ORGANS” is your winning argument you’re batty.
They believe, firmly, that a fucking zygote is a person. Therefore they believe abortion is murder of a TINY BABY. You’re not going to convince them that it’s okay to MURDER A BABY just because it’s not legal to harvest organs from people.
They believe they are respecting the bodily rights OF A BABY. They will not think that this argument makes the tiniest bit of sense. If you actually fucking say “if they’re lucky, they’ll come out of it with weight gain, differently shaped breasts, and changes to the cervix/vagina” like this post does they’ll say “OH I’M SO SORRY YOUR BOOBS MIGHT HAVE SAGGED, I GUESS IT’S OKAY TO MURDER BABIES IF YOU CAN KEEP YOUR PERKY TITS” which yes - I know - misses the entire point of what the above post is saying (reminder that I am staunchly pro-choice and not the tiniest bit religious).
They think it’s murder, they think they are speaking for tiny babies that cannot speak for themselves, and so bringing up “income disruption” sounds absolutely ghoulish. It is mind-blowing that you think this is an argument that’s going to suddenly make them change their minds. Ridiculous.
And I know. I know. I probably can’t succeed at convincing them it’s not a baby, either. My argument is ALSO doomed. But I hold out hope that I’ll reach one of the many people that has been lied to about the medical facts and make them realize that there’s something shady going on, that no that’s not an accurate representation of a fetus their priest handed them, that no it doesn’t make sense to count a twitching heart cell as a “heartbeat”, etc.
But the argument in the post above won’t just fail - it will make them double down, and “prove” to them that we’re evil. Which… eh. I mean they think that anyway, I guess. I don’t know. I’m just tired and frustrated.
It’s nothing less than BIG government, forced birthing. This is evil and draconian. People argue that America is already a late stage capitalist oligarchy, but if SCOTUS repeals Roe, it will be remembered as the turning point when America actually turned the corner and really became a fully Christofascist state—because conservatives won’t stop at overturning Roe v. Wade. The leak included references to to the landmark LovingandObergefellcases.
Please recognize this for what it is. A complete grab for control by an illegitimate rightwing court.
SN: Please, do not add any #VBNMW fuckery to this post—that kind of blind sycophancy is exactly how we ended up with misogynistic anti-abortionists like Clarence Thomas,Joe Manchin,Henry Cuellar,Dan Lipinski, and too many others.
“About a third of our population is African American; African Americans have a higher incidence of maternal mortality. So, if you correct our population for race, we’re not as much of an outlier as it’d otherwise appear. Now, I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be. For whatever reason, people of color have a higher incidence of maternal mortality.”
There is no clearer way to say they they believe Black Lives Don’t Matter. Bill Cassidy wants you to know he only cares about the white population.
And then there’s the “for whatever reason” people of color die more in childbirth. Just sweep that right under the rug. - The reason is they don’t have access to the care they need because you defund things like planned parenthood and make access impossible.
“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”
