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So listen up y’all, nothing drives me crazier as both a writer and a scientist than seeing alien diseases that make no fuckin’ sense in a human body. 

If you’re talking about alien diseases in a non-human character, you can ignore all this.

But as far as alien diseases in humans go, please remember:

DISEASE SYMPTOMS ARE AN IMMUNE RESPONSE.

Fever? A response to help your immune cells function faster and more efficiently to destroy invaders.

Sore/scratchy throat? An immune response. Diseases that latch onto the epithelium of the throat (the common cold, the flu) replicate there, and your body is like “uh no fuckin’ thanks” and starts to slough off those cells in order to stop the replication of new virus in its tracks. So when it feels like your throat is dying? guess what it literally is. And the white spots you see with more severe bacterial infections are pus accumulation, which is basically dead white blood cells, and the pus is a nice and disgusting way of getting that shit outta here.

(No one really knows why soreness and malaise happens, but some scientists guess that it’s a byproduct of immune response, and others suspect that it’s your body’s way of telling you to take it easy)

headache? usually sinus pressure (or dehydration, which isn’t an immune response but causes headaches by reducing blood volume and causing a general ruckus in your body, can be an unfortunate side effect of a fever) caused by mucous which is an immune response to flush that nasty viral shit outta your face.

Rashes? an inflammatory response. Your lymphocytes see a thing they don’t like and they’re like “hEY NOW” and release a bunch of chemicals that tell the cells that are supposed to kill it to come do that. Those chemicals cause inflammation, which causes redness, heat, and swelling. They itch because histamine is a bitch.

fatigue? your body is doing a lot–give it a break!

here is a fact:

during the Spanish 1918 Plague, a very strange age group succumbed to the illness. The very young and very old were fine, but people who were seemingly healthy and in the prime of life (young adults) did not survive. This is because that virus triggered an immune response called a cytokine storm, which basically killed everything in sight and caused horrific symptoms like tissue death, vasodilation and bleeding–basically a MASSIVE inflammatory response that lead to organ damage and death. Those with the strongest immune systems took the worst beating by their own immune responses, while those with weaker immune systems were fine.

So when you’re thinking of an alien disease, think through the immune response.

Where does this virus attack? Look up viruses that also attack there and understand what the immune system would do about it. 

Understand symptoms that usually travel together–joint pain and fever, for example.

So please, please: no purple and green spotted diseases. No diseases that cause glamorous fainting spells and nothing else. No mystical eye-color/hair-color changing diseases. If you want these things to happen, use magic or some shit or alien physiology, but when it’s humans, it doesn’t make any fuckin’ sense. 

This has been a rant and I apologize for that. 

As a microbiologist, I think the main advice here is to take into account real diseases and conditions before you make up a fictional disease or condition.

Some bacteria have physical effects on the body that cause symptoms (EHEC varitype of E. coli ruptures cells at the site of infection, which is usually the large intestine, hence, you have bloody stools from it). If your alien or “made-up” bacteria or virus causes a certain symptom, find a real bacteria or virus that causes the same symptom. They need to behave in a similar fashion and have similar physical traits. Bacteria and viruses do not evolve functions because they’re cool. They evolve them because they’re useful.

There are also dietary issues, medications and chronic diseases that cause physical changes–copper toxicity can cause an orange ring around the iris, an eyelash lengthening “medicine” causes darkening and/or color change of the iris, hemochromatosis (sometimes known as “Bronze Diabetes”) causes darkening of the skin etc. If you want to use this sort of thing, again, find something real that causes it and work through things logically. 

Play your cards right, do your research and you will have hordes of readers in the scientific and/or biological community cheering, screaming and crying because they love your work.

@biologyweeps, this feels up your speculative alley - anything to add?

Ohhh.

I’d like to add that the same goes for parasitic infections, more or less. If you want a certain trait for a diseases, cross reference with existing parasites to see what’s happening, and also make sure you check what happens if you put a parasite in a host it’s not meant for. We can sensibly assume that alien parasites that encounter a human would be ‘wtf’ and potentially cause complications that would never happen in the native species. Maybe in the native species it causes a cold like reaction at worst, but in a human the parasites may attempt to nest in a totally different tissue. Maybe that causes widespread tissue damage by the parasite itself as it tries to borrow in? Again, check existing cases to see what horrific things could happen.

While we’re on it, also check how your disease is communicated. One of the things that annoy me so much with zombie movies is that ‘biting’ is supposed to be a very effective way to spread it. It’s not. Anything that requires such intimate contact is actually kind of hard to communicate. Airborne things? Now there we are at potential ‘oh shit’ territory. So if you want your disease to sweep the country/planet/ship, pick something that’s easily communicable. 

Also consider the incubation period. How long until someone shows symptoms? Are they already infectious to other people before showing symptoms or still after they stopped? As mentioned above, illness symptoms are in most part immune responses and the immune system needs time to get up and run. Give it that time.

And while we’re at it… there are symptoms that aren’t immune responses. For example the cramps that accompany tetanus are caused by a toxin the bacterium produces that damages/destroys nerve cells. Viruses can cause tissue damage when they insert in cells, replicate in there and destroy the cell on exit. Think of how HIV can wreak havoc on the human immune system by killing of a specific kind of cell. Depending on where your viruses likes to replicate it can massively impact the look of it. Something that destroys liver cells will look different (and if survived may come with different long term damage) than something that prefers skin or muscle cells. If it’s alien also consider how it might behave differently in its original host. 

Fantastic post, I can relate to OP 100%. More points:

Nothing makes me groan harder than a made-up plague which gives anyone X diseases within seconds to MINUTES. I’m looking at you, most zombie movies. And if your alien/synthetic/sci-fi pathogen is at all like a virus (read: no metabolism of its own, just genetic material of some kind which it uses to reprogram host cells), then the rate at which it mupltiplies is limited to what normal human cells can do. Now, viruses can multiply pretty damn fast. But give you symptoms within MINUTES? Nope.

So long as we’re on the subject of epidemiology, and speed:

 "Oh no, patient died less than a day after being infected! We’re all doomed!“ Wrong. While that SOUNDS scary, a plague that kills that quickly would not actually be that dangerous, and would be unlikely to have evolved to begin with. A disease needs to pass itself on to at least one other person, on average, before it kills its host, or it’s doomed to extinction. Any virus that kills its host before it has a decent chance of being passed on will basically quarantine itself. (Of course, you CAN do this if you handwave its origins as being made in a lab or whatever, just know it won’t realistically pose a truly terrifying threat on a population level.)

Mmore ideas for a realistically scary made-up plague:

- Long incubation period (say, a couple of weeks), making quarantine much more difficult, disruptive to everyday life, and unlikely to succeed.

- Infectious period != symptomatic period, i.e. someone can spread the disease before they appear sick. (Note: if this condition is met, then dying very rapidly after *manifesting symptoms* becomes plausible again, more plausible than dying quickly after being infected.)

- The possibility or relative prevalence of healthy carriers - think Typhoid Mary. I.e. rare people who skip the symptoms part entirely but are still infectious.

- The disease is transmitted through an animal that is hard to keep out, the definition of “hard to keep out” would depend on the setting here. Poor water sanitation means waterborne bacteria and microscopic parasites would be a huge danger. Insect or arachnid (e.g. tick) bites could be a danger in almost any setting..

- As an alternative to above point: the bacterial/viral/parasite/whatever can form spores that are fucking EVERYWHERE. (Read: the reason for both tetanus and botulinum poisoning.)

- The pathogen is both dangerous and impossible to fully exterminate through vaccination because it has a huge population of reservoir hosts. (Reservoir hosts are entire SPECIES that can carry and propagate the disease without being affected much by it.) Same way the Black Plague is still out there because a shitton of rodent species passively carry it.

And many more things if you do some research for inspiration! Pathogens are scary, fascinating things, and I really wish we had more realistic fictional representation of them than “virus which causes zombie behaviour in 3 seconds flat” (looking at you, 28 Days Later) and “virus which can MIND-CONTROL people who view the main carrier through a COMPUTER SCREEN” (wtf???) (looking at you, Jessica Jones).

@scriptmedic might this interest you as well?

 Jacobson v Massachusetts: It’s Not Your Great-Great-Grandfather’s Public Health Law Given the chang

Jacobson v Massachusetts: It’s Not Your Great-Great-Grandfather’s Public Health Law

Given the changes in constitutional law, public health, and government regulation, what kinds of public health laws that address contagious diseases might be constitutionally permissible today? A law that authorizes mandatory vaccination during an epidemic of a lethal disease, with refusal punishable by a monetary penalty, like the one at issue in Jacobson, would undoubtedly be found constitutional under the low constitutional test of “rationality review.” However, the vaccine would have to be approved by the FDA as safe and effective, and the law would have to require exceptions for those who have contraindications to the vaccine. A law that authorizes mandatory vaccination to prevent dangerous contagious diseases in the absence of an epidemic, such as the school immunization requirement summarily upheld in 1922, also would probably be upheld as long as (1) the disease still exists in the population where it can spread and cause serious injury to those infected, and (2) a safe and effective vaccine could prevent transmission to others.

The legitimacy of compulsory vaccination programs depends on both scientific factors and constitutional limits. Scientific factors include the prevalence, incidence, and severity of the contagious disease; the mode of transmission; the safety and effectiveness of any vaccine in preventing transmission; and the nature of any available treatment. Constitutional limits include protection against unjustified bodily intrusions, such as forcible vaccination of individuals at risk for adverse reactions, and physical restraints and unreasonable penalties for refusal.


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Wow, I got invited!Scientists in  Politics Workshop at the Eagleton Institute of Politics on Novembe

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Scientists in  Politics Workshop at the Eagleton Institute of Politics on November 30

I’m the only “outsider” attending!  Thank you Rutgers!

On behalf of the NJ Microbe!

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New Jersey State Microbe moves forwardNJ Assembly legislation A3650 will be heard before the Science

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“Showing numerous incipient papules upon the face. Those upon the forehead were the first to appear

“Showing numerous incipient papules upon the face. Those upon the forehead were the first to appear and are most prominent. the cheeks present a characteristic leathery appearance.”

A Practical Treatise on Smallpox by George Henry Fox, 1903


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“Showing upon the face and cheeks a form of the disease commonly known as ‘black smallpox.’ (&hellip

“Showing upon the face and cheeks a form of the disease commonly known as ‘black smallpox.’ (…) The swelling and disfigurement of the face present a most striking appearance.”

A Practical Treatise on Smallpox by George Henry Fox, 1903


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“Showing a few thick crusts remaining upon the face with numerous dull red spots from which the crus

“Showing a few thick crusts remaining upon the face with numerous dull red spots from which the crusts have fallen.”

A Practical Treatise on Smallpox by George Henry Fox, 1903


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“These illustrations show a partly confluent character which the eruption frequently presents, even

“These illustrations show a partly confluent character which the eruption frequently presents, even in mild cases, and especially upon the legs. The influence of pressure in developing a more profuse eruption may be noted above the ankles, where shoes were laced, and below the knees, where garters were worn.”

A Practical Treatise on Smallpox by George Henry Fox, 1903


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“These illustrations show the pustular lesions in the stages of complete distention when they presen

“These illustrations show the pustular lesions in the stages of complete distention when they present a rounded appearance, and of incipient desiccation, when they appear flattened and with a central depression or ‘secondary umbilication.’”

A Practical Treatise on Smallpox by George Henry Fox, 1903


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“This shows the earliest eruption upon back and buttocks. The photograph was taken about seven hours

“This shows the earliest eruption upon back and buttocks. The photograph was taken about seven hours after its first appearance. The patient was sent to Riverside Hospital where she developed hemorrhagic smallpox, and died on the fourth day.”

A Practical Treatise on Smallpox by George Henry Fox, 1903


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 “Fig. 3 shows severe pitting, a partial loss of hair and eyebrows, and destruction of one eye.”A Pr

 “Fig. 3 shows severe pitting, a partial loss of hair and eyebrows, and destruction of one eye.”

A Practical Treatise on Smallpox by George Henry Fox, 1903

Healing after smallpox was a slow process. Victims were often unrecognizable to those who knew them before the illness. 


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“Fig. 1 shows umbilicated pustules with an intense edema of the foot, considerably increasing in its

“Fig. 1 shows umbilicated pustules with an intense edema of the foot, considerably increasing in its size and causing much pain. Fig. 2 shows the epidermis raised in a large, irregular patch by the confluence of pustules.” 

A Practical Treatise on Smallpox by George Henry Fox, 1903


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“Figs. 1 and 3 show the dried pustules remaining in the thickened skin of palm and sole after the cr

“Figs. 1 and 3 show the dried pustules remaining in the thickened skin of palm and sole after the crusts have fallen elsewhere. Fig. 2 shows the superficial desquamation which follows the falling of the crusts, producing rings of partly detached epidermis.“

A Practical Treatise on Smallpox by George Henry Fox, 1903


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anatomicdeadspace: The face and feet of a man with smallpox at the El Kettar Civilian Hospital, Algianatomicdeadspace: The face and feet of a man with smallpox at the El Kettar Civilian Hospital, Algi

anatomicdeadspace:

The face and feet of a man with smallpox at the El Kettar Civilian Hospital, Algiers, during World War II

He got off somewhat lucky in that his case doesn’t look to be confluent. I think this would be the discrete form.


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The Pox Party, digital, December 2017 Sort of playing around with the spectre that once was childhoo

The Pox Party, digital, December 2017

Sort of playing around with the spectre that once was childhood disease. Most people never made it to adulthood.


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Agata, acrylic on linen, 2020Source image: “Illustration of Agata Lapieruz who lost her nose, upper Agata, acrylic on linen, 2020Source image: “Illustration of Agata Lapieruz who lost her nose, upper

Agata, acrylic on linen, 2020

Source image: “Illustration of Agata Lapieruz who lost her nose, upper lip, and bottom half of eyelids after being afflicted by ‘reddish patches covered with tiny blisters that soon dry up and flake off’. Rapidly changing form and location, the sores eventually formed crusts and attacked the soft flesh of the face.

From the National Library of Medicine archives. Labeled as syphilis.


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Work in progress. Acrylic and charcoal on canvas. 16x20”.

Source: “Patient with tuberous leprosy. Extracted from Leprosy In Its Clinical & Pathological Aspects by Hansen & Looft, John Wright and Co, Bristol, 1895, Plate III.” - Wellcome images

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