After watching Spider-Man: No Way Home all I want now is for Disney (or Sony) to create a TV mini-series about the Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus. They were literally the diamonds of this movie.
I’m tired of this misconception so I’m debunking it once and for all. Feel free to reblog or link to this in any discussions you find yourself in.
Let me start by making something clear. Yes, Gwen Stacy did have sex with Norman Osborn/the Green Goblin. My contention though is not about that but about the misconception that this was an affair or constituted unfaithfulness towards Peter/Spidey.
I think people have this weird idea that Gwen emerged wholecloth as Spider-Man’s waifu when that’s not how things happened. Gwen and Peter gradually got together and fell in love with their first date occurring in ASM #53
It was effectively their only date between then and ASM #59-61. This is relevant because the latter issues comprise a story arc in which Gwen and Peter are on the outs. Gwen’s father, Captain Stacy, was brainwashed by the Kingpin and as a result attacked Peter. Peter defended himself but didn’t account for his strength. When Gwen walked into the room she believed her father’s story that Peter had attacked him. She told Peter to get lost, temporarily ending any relationship they had at the time; not that they were even exclusive at the time anyway.
Compounding things Gwen saw Peters pictures in the Daily Bugle incriminating her father.
The long and short of this story is that Gwen and her father found themselves endangered by the Kingpin until they were rescued by none other than Norman Osborn.
At the time Norman was amnesic and was unaware that he was the Green Goblin.
After this incident that Gwen went to thank Norman for saving her and her father. It was at this point that she and Norman slept together as established by The Official Handbook to the Marvel Universe: Spider-Man 2005.
Neither the handbook nor any other story ever even hints that Gwen and Norman had sex more than once. By any definition it was a one time encounter.
Now let’s take a quick trip to Wikipedia and read the first few sentences on their ‘Infidelity’ article.
Perhaps we could argue she did something wrong. That it was wrong for her to have slept with the father of her friend Harry or to have not told Peter about her encounter with Norman or being pregnant with his children.
But given that Gwen and Peter had been on effectively one date and were not together when she slept with Norman, by definition she was NOT CHEATING on anyone!
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This is from wave 2. Whether or not this figure re-uses the earlier body mold I cannot say but it does work here. The face looks demonic and the patterns on both his arm and leg sleeves have been sculpted in. It looks great. The glider has no detail to it. It also has no pegs so the figure doesn’t stand very well on it. The purse or man bag is removable and the pumpkin bomb can be attached to right hand only via peg. There’s not much more I can say.
The Green Goblin is one of Spider-Man’s oldest villains and he’ll live in infamy as the man who helped cause the death of Gwen Stacy…. and yet I have always found him to be extremely boring. I’ve never been fan of the Green Goblin at all. I think Marvel got it rightwith the Hob Goblin which I feel is superior.
I have dakimakura of Norman Osborn, Otto Octavius, and Peter “Lil’ PeePee” Parker up for adoption. These were all custom commission designs, but now they’re available to EVERYONE to snuggle with! I know I’M having great conversations with my Norman over candlelit dinners.
SHOCKandALIENATE your family when they discover these body pillows of EVIL, GERIATRIC MEN(and one spider-lad) in your bed!
Fire back and tell them Spider-Man 2002 is the greatest movie of all time!
Otto and Norman come as individual character pillowcases, or together on the front and back of the same pillowcase.
Peter comes as a single pillowcase with two slightly different unmasked vs battle-damaged designs on the front and back.
Here’s my personal favourite outfit that combines both the handsome disheveled hair and the Goblin colours, it’s Norman in his raggedy clothes! He looks absolutely adorable and my heart is going nuts.
My heart is also hurting, because of how distraught and completely lost he looks.
And then he’s smiling in the last photo which then made me better. :D
For all the people who don’t have room for the full daki, these lil dudes slip right into a book! Reading is FUN with Otto and Norman and Peter and Jesse and Max…
Continuing to redesign the Spider-Man cast, here is my take on Norman Osborn. THE GREEN GOBLIN. Let me know what other Spidey Rouges you wanna see me take a crack at.
Spider-Man: No Way Home is a more heartfelt, better thought out, better acted, more pleasant version of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.
Instead of magical creatures it’s villains from across the multiverse that our hero accidentally unleashes on New York and has to collect. The hero pays the price for what he’s done. Spider-Man might find the memory spell undone in some yet to be determined sequel, and that would be a waste, but right now I like to imagine there are Warner execs getting yelled at (we want a billion dollars and can’t have it because we made an aggressively bad FB sequel, wahhhh).
Jon Watts makes it look easy. He draws a better performance out of Garfield than Marc Webb, and I say that with a lot of respect for Garfield. I think he was really good this year in The Eyes of Tammy Faye (I’ll see Tick, Tick, Boom this week).
MJ is canonized as MJ Watson and actually a character in this movie. The story is less high school centric which works in its favor. We get to spend more meaningful time with Peter, Ned, and MJ and let Willem Dafoe, Jamie Fox, and Alfred Molina show off.
Marisa Tomei broke my heart in a good way. They actually say THE LINE in this movie.
No Way Home is an improvement on its predecessors and a worthy capstone to a trilogy. Love it.
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