#anti sylki
I feel like a lot of the Sylvie hate is coming from a place of internalized misogyny. Like, a lot of people on here seem to dislike her because she’s a strong female character.
Ugh. Okay so if anyone has to use misogyny in any argument as something pro then obviously their argument is invalid.
But what about those who have actual counter arguments to the character,mm?
See you people posts stuffs like this (with anti tags especially; those never miss) and then have the audacity to have the comments disabled and if there was a chance to do so, will disable reblogs as well.
So I’m coming here, not as someone who hates Sylvie (at all) because she’s a woman, who have valid arguments to her creation as a character and her existence as whole.
I know many people who do as well.
It’s all about searching for yourself. Instead of posting bait like this.
Anti antis, the ball is in your court.
Tom and Sophia are going to be fighting for their lives in this panel and I’m going to be here for it
This joke would not leave my head after episode 4 but I’ll be honest I had to force myself to finish this after episode 5. No offense meant to the people who ship, you do you, but I personally dread it actually happening.
Reasons why it’s not biphobic to be upset about Sylki:
- Number One: many people interpret selfcest as incestuous (same person, same parents, same DNA, that stuff) or are just generally uncomfortable with the idea. Don’t shame or insult people who perceived the dynamic as sibling-esque in nature.
- Number Two: Disney ‘confirmed’ their bisexuality and Loki’s gender fluidity in a way that can be easily censored or edited out. It’s painfully obvious they did this so they can win some woke points but still get the cash from homophobic countries.
- And finally, Number Three: Disney is too gross and cowardly to have a popular main character be in a blatantly, expressly queer relationship and it really shows (see also: Bucky Barnes).
They can say all they want that Loki and Sylvie are bisexual, they can pat themselves on the back for slipping ‘Sex: Fluid’ onto Loki’s paperwork, but the fact of the matter is that Sylki is Disney’s queerbait heterosexual cash cow: applause from people praising the ‘queer rep’, and revenue from the countries who don’t want to see gay people onscreen.
Signed: an angry queer person with angry queer friends
also loki/sylvie ONLY works as a m/f pairing. marvel would NEVER had gone there if sylvie identified as a male loki. and if they had gone there, we’d see countless articles about how disturbing and disgusting it was, instead of all these “ooooh marvel is SoOoOo crazy, self-cest is sOoOo funny, it’s about self love get it huehue?” articles. because m/f relationships are allowed to be weird and twisted and lowkey disgusting and still be allowed to exist and be portrayed on screen, but same-sex relationships can barely hold hands without people threatening to boycott the show.
no, loki/sylvie is not a heterosexual relationship because neither of the characters are heterosexual. i understand that. but it’s a relationship that is allowed to exist solely because one character has presented solely as male, and the other solely as female. them slapping “fluid” to loki’s medical chart and then doing absolutely nothing to show that they’re actually fluid does not count as good rep.
Reblog if you dislike Sylki not because it gets in the way of Lokius, but it makes you uncomfortable due to the transphobic and anti-genderfluid implications.
“Well I’m genderfluid and I don’t think it’s harmful”
Ok and some people with disabilities don’t mind ableist jokes, that doesn’t mean they aren’t harmful.
Michael’s friend liked my fancam that means he prob saw it…
Posting my fan cams
Loki writer memes part 1
Look, the negative fan response to Sylki is valid. It’s honestly fine if you’re pro-Sylki (clearly, a lot of people are), but I’m frustrated with how the anti-Sylki argument is so often dismissed as a petty ship war. As in, Lokius shippers didn’t get what they wanted, so now they’re anti-Sylki out of spite. That’s just not what’s happening here.
To begin with, my not shipping Sylvie x Loki (Sylki) is separate from my shipping Loki x Mobius (Lokius). Though there is undeniable (and rather significant) overlap between anti-Sylki shippers and pro-Lokius shippers, being in one group does not automatically put you in both. It’s also insulting to assume that the anti-Sylki fans are confounding the two distinct relationships. Believe or not, we are capable of compartmentalizing.
Let’s pretend - as painful as it is, I know - that Mobius was never a part of the story (gods, I hate this already). From their first moments together in episodes 2 and 3, Tom Hiddleston and Sophia Di Martino’s chemistry on screen screamed chaotic siblings - constantly at each other’s throats, bickering about ideology and exchanging petty insults, but ultimately and undeniably similar. As an audience member, that is how I read their interactions, and my reading/interpretation is just as valid as anybody else’s.
I will maintain that first and foremost, I just didn’t buy into Loki and Sylvie’s romance as a member of the audience. (For the record, I had no trouble believing in Cersei x Jaime or in Dany x Jon.)
I have no problem with Loki, the God of Mischief, getting romantically involved with themselves. In fact, the notion is actually quite funny and fitting. But for how Tom Hiddleston played Loki in this series and how his character interacted with the character of Sylvie, I just didn’t buy into the implications of self-attraction and narcissism. My opinion, I know. But I don’t think I’m alone in how I feel given the onscreen chemistry.
Moving right along - as a metaphor for self-love, I don’t see why Loki and Sylvie’s relationship needed to be romantic. In fact, I’d argue that a romantic interpretation of their relationship actually detracts from the self-love metaphor. Hear me out.
(Note: I will be using cis pronouns in this post as this is how the show ultimately positioned the characters; I am definitely of the position that Loki deserved better genderfluid representation and I’m hoping to see it in future seasons/movies.)
When we talk about self-love and self-care in the context of mental health and personal growth, we don’t mean anything sexual or romantic. It’s about reaching a state of self-acceptance and self-assured fulfillment.
Loki “falling for” Sylvie implies motivations (i.e., sexual) beyond empathetic altruism. Loki’s relationship with Sylvie is a great way for the character to see himself - the good, the bad, and the ugly - from an exterior perspective. Sylvie, with how damaged and hateful and hell-bent on revenge she is, reminds Loki of a not-so-long-ago version of himself. Sylvie is lost and alone, and Loki knows what that’s like: “I’ve been where you are. I’ve felt what you feel.” Loki is in the position to offer Sylvie guidance and mentorship without the added layer of a romantic relationship.
I liken it to a hypothetical scenario in which my current 26-year-old self encounters my 21-year-old self. This younger version of myself was in a dark place and desperately needed guidance and hope. My older self would see this younger self as a little sister to take under her wing - to say “it’s going to be okay. we’ve found our way out of this darkness before and we’ll do it again, this time together.”
At the end of the day, it’s just a show (Tom Hiddleston’s Loki is absolutely one of my favorite characters of all time, so yes it pains me to admit that it remains fiction) and the writers/showrunners made their decisions. My opinion is simply that the show would have benefited from a found-sibling, big brother/little sister relationship that felt more organic and didn’t carry the messy implications of a romantic entanglement.
If you read this far, thanks for listening to me thing aloud. Regardless of how you felt about the direction of the show, hope we can bond as forever Loki stans. ✌️️
LOUDER FOR THE ASSHOLES IN THE BACK
istg if someone flames me one more time or says i’m biphobic because I don’t support Sylki I will skin you alive. (ITS INCEST/SELFCEST WTF DOES BEING BISEXUAL HAVE TO DO WITH DIPSHIT)
