I never thought I’d see a day when I’d actually have to argue that there is a biological difference between females and males. Or be told that pregnant women, mothers, and breastfeeding must be erased and replaced with pregnant people, parent, and chestfeeding. Or see the word “lesbian” used as umbrella term that includes males who are sexually attracted to females. Or hear lesbians who don’t want to suck dick called bigots by men in dresses who themselves wouldn’t dream of sucking dick. This is not progressive, this is misogyny.
Being female is not a feeling. Being male is not a feeling. And no woman can “identify” her way out of patriarchal oppression or rape.
The trans activist agenda is not about human rights, it’s about trampling over the rights of women. But the emperor has no clothes and more people each day are seeing it. Stop drinking the Kool Aid and notice how often the rhetoric erases and gas lights women for the comfort of gender dysphoric males.
TRAs believe in the oppression of women, and TRA is supported by the Patriarchy and by the LGBT community. Believe in the evidence of your eyes: men are not our friends and the LGBT community doesn’t deserve our continued support. We don’t have to be friends with our enemies.
Because trans Men are 1% of the trans communit for gods sake
They’re literally not though, more females are diagnosed with gender dysphoria than males are in America. Trans women have male privilege, socialization, and entitlement. That’s why their voices are the loudest.
Yeah I remember seeing some stats somewhere (i think from the UK) that said it was something like 3-4 girl (afab) gender clinic referrals for every 1 boy (amab). And the evidence that trans women still receive male privilege is everywhere. Richest “female” film director is a trans women. Highest paid “female” CEO is a trans woman. A lot of the “women” hired to do coding jobs are trans women. The fact that anyone even takes Jonathan Yaniv seriously or gives him the time of day is because he’s male. The fact that trans women in media get recognized for things other than giving birth or being in porn? That most of the money raised by LGBT orgs now goes to trans (women’s) causes? That they’ve so easily been allowed into female sports/spaces and are even allowed to define female lived experiences on their own terms? It’s all because they were born male.
when we say trans women are male and trans men are female, we are not saying they deserve to be discriminated against or that their dysphoria doesn’t matter. we are saying biology exists and matters in certain contexts.
when we say we won’t date trans women because we’re lesbians, we are not saying trans women don’t deserve to have happy, fulfilling relationships. we are saying that we are not romantically or sexually attracted to them and so that neither of us would have a happy, fulfilling relationship if we dated.
when we say we are gender critical, we are not saying everyone should be gender-conforming. we are saying the opposite, that men and women should be free to dress and act however they like instead of being forced into certain gender roles based on their sex.
when we say female-only safe spaces are important, we are not saying trans-only or mixed safe spaces aren’t also important. we are saying that based on our biology, women have certain shared experiences and face specific oppression that we deserve to be able to discuss among ourselves.
when we say one thing and you hear another, that isn’t our fault. when you’re ready to listen to what we actually believe or to have a genuine discussion, we’ll still be here.
Note how trans women appropriate female rights, spaces and resources without losing any of their birth sex rights. Not to mention how trans men are completely ignored and do not inherit any rights.
I just feel like reblogging this again because it’s so stunning. A “gender recognition act” that simultaneously gave new rights to amabs and did nothing for afabs. Imagine that. Golly, what could have been the motivation?
As usual even if you flip flop the words around the same old sexism remains.
As if we needed more proof the trans movement is just about males reestablishing their dominance. I told y’all it’s an offshoot of mens rights activism.
I’m trying to parse that last one about eldest daughters. So, let’s say my family’s inheritance goes to the eldest daughter. I’m the eldest daughter but I have an older brother. My older brother decides he’s now a woman. He becomes the eldest daughter and I lose the inheritance. Is that what it’s saying?
I think that’s what it’s saying yes. And I remember an aita post a while ago about a family necklace that’s supposed to go to the eldest daughter, and her older brother transitioned and demanded the necklace. Most people said the mom would be the asshole if she didnt yank the heirloom away to “validate” him iirc. It literally only ever works one way…
Females can be displaced by males who identify as transgender, however, males cannot be displaced by females who identify as transgender.
Imagine a family estate that dictates, for example, half goes to the eldest son and half to the eldest daughter. The eldest (male) child could identify as a woman and gain the rights to ALL inheritance, leaving his younger sister with absolutely nothing.
Or a family that had the rule of, say, title and land goes to the son and money/art collection/jewels went to the daughter, to even it out/compensate for their only being one title, allowing them to keep all family members ~in the loop~ and wealthy and shit. Once again, the eldest son can simply identify as a woman and take EVERYTHING for himself, leaving nothing for anyone else.
Men get what men get *and* they get what women get (by taking it away from them). Women get nothing.
no offense but can trans men who side with terfs explain to me your reasoning? just because you side with them and start hating trans women doesn’t mean they hate you any less or see you as any more of a man they’re still terfs
bc radfems stand for trans men more than liberal feminists ever will
hi! trans man here who’s been officially labeled a TERF.
in short- sex based oppression is real. i am a female with a uterus and the life experience of other people raising me to be small, not take up space, accommodate others, make myself attractive to men, etc. my greatest fear existing in this world as a trans man is being “clocked” or “found out” that i’m not a cis man and being raped for it and possibly becoming pregnant from that rape (and then maybe not being able to access the reproductive care i need but that comes later). that is my single greatest fear in my day to day life. i have to face that daily. and that is a struggle no trans woman will have to face ever in their lives. this is one example of being oppressed on the basis of my sex. my femalehood. the fact i have a vulva, vagina, and uterus. regardless of how i identify, that does not change the reality of this possible nightmare i face. and this deep rooted fear is something i see others in the radfem community talk about, and haven’t seen in other circles. to be clear. this does not mean i hate or disrespect trans women. but they, as people with testes, penises, and prostates (yes, even when they are removed and reshaped to become something that resembles a vulva/vagina) will NEVER experience that fear.
additionally, there is more community here with more support and more real talk and real action about issues affecting women and girls than i have seen anywhere else in liberal “feminism.” the theory makes sense, and is backed up by real examples. instead of parroting useless phrases like “trans men are men” and “trans women are women” and “gender is a social construct” people in this community put their money where their mouth is and actively work toward abolishing gender and gender stereotypes while also recognizing the unique experience of growing up as gender non conforming but still being socialized one way or the other.
anyone who reads this- (but especially @adequate-britain) let me know if you want to talk more about anything. i barely scratched the surface here about why i became a radically-leaning, gender critical, trans identified female, feminist.
Did you for real just say trans women never have the fear of being raped are you…are you fucking kidding me
no, i said they don’t have to fear getting pregnant from rape.
I don’t tend to agree with radical feminists, but it’s true, trans women do get raped, but since they’re not biological females, they can’t fear to get pregnant from this rape, only a biological female, like a cis woman or a trans man, can fear this, and getting pregnant from rape is already not a cool thing to happen, but getting pregnant as a trans man is most likely terrible because the dysphoria and stuff, as a trans guy, I would probable kill myself if I got pregnant, and I’m not even kidding. I hope I have been clear while explaining my point of view.
very clear! i think you more clearly articulated what i was thinking than i did myself. as a dysphoric female seeking medical transition (most would call me a trans man), that pregnancy would also most likely result in my suicide. the dysphoria alone would be soul-crushing, but compounded with the trauma of rape? that would absolutely lead to me making another attempt on my own life. i think this is a valuable response for @dysphoricbottombinch to read.
Sorry but I fail to see how you answerd the original question. Which was why would a transman(I’m confused and put off by the fact that you keep calling yourself a female also) side with terfs.
A terf is a trans EXCLUSIONARY feminist.
They constantly refer to trans women as rapist, predators and fake women. Not only that but they usually invalidate transmens identities. Several have called me “fujoshi”, told me I fetishized gay men, etc. All you said in your response was that transmen have it harder because we can get pregnant through rape. Okay? What does that have to do with violently hating a group of people and excluding them from your feminism and how does it answer the question of why anyone TRANSman would side with them?
I side with “””TERFs””” because I am female first and foremost. I have two X chromosomes and everything that comes with that. No matter how I identify, nothing will change that. I thought I was alone in finding that fact so central to my identity. But in discovering radical feminists, radically-leaning feminists, and gender critical theory, I found that I was not. There is a lot of support in this community for people with dysphoria, especially biological females like me, and a lot of discussion about real issues affecting female people.
I think that TERF is a ridiculous title. Since most of them are not trans exclusionary. They do include FTM trans people in their feminism. Because feminism to radical feminists is about liberating women, “AFABs” (the problematic nature of this term is another story for another post), biological females, from the patriarchy. I, as a female, as a person with a uterus, need this feminism because I need access to reproductive health, because I was raised with female socialization and I don’t want the same for my nieces, because I am affected by rape all too common in our society under the patriarchy.
I’m very sorry that your interactions with radical feminists have been so regrettable. That is something that, as a community, has room for improvement. But something I feel the need to point out is that that was not the only thing I said in my response. I had another whole paragraph of why I found myself running more and more in radical feminist circles. Maybe you didn’t read it because you were so upset about the first part of my point, but I did address the biggest reason I side with “TERFs.” Anyway, the TLDR version: people in this community put their money where their mouth is and actively work toward abolishing gender and gender stereotypes while also recognizing the unique experience of growing up as gender non conforming but still being socialized one way or the other.
Please read the whole argument next time, please. It’ll save us a whole lot of time.
Cool you’re a terf and support terfs who LiTERLLY hate trans women. Bye!
Literally incapable of listening lol
Greatly explained!
The amount of time used to explain and answer the question in good faith just to be completely fucking ignored.
It wasn’t a waste of time because it may have been of use to those reading the thread who seek enlightenment in good faith. But yeah, there’s no point in talking to TRAs, as they’re just MRAs in disguise.
If a stranger misgenders you, please please please do not ever utter the phrase, “I’m a man.” It sounds very unnatural and immediately sounds overly defensive.
My advice? Just look at the person like they’re an idiot and, in the deepest voice possible, say, “Uh. Alright, then.”
Just act as though they made a huge and obvious mistake, and don’t get flustered. If you’re comfortable with it, handle the situation with humor and say something like, “Man, I know I’ve got a babyface, but I didn’t think it was thatbad.”
and if someone doesn’t believe u, say you have a hormonal imbalance + are on meds for it. it’s quick, believable, and most ppl are too uncomfortable discussing health problems with strangers to question it.
THIS POST, hang on somewhere is the notes is a sentence that changed my whole fucking life! I don’t have time to dig for it right now but
Can’t find it, going to just going to explain it. I’ve been out for like 4 and a half years. I saw this post when I was Freshly Out, and this post has been so deep in my fucking rat brain for actual years.
You have to react like you’re not expecting to be misgendered. It’s hard and it’s weird, because I know, you walk out into the world very aware and afraid of how the cis people are going to perceive you. But deadass there is a “Wow, that stranger has made a bold call there” mentality that, yeah it’s a fake it till you make it type of deal. But once I internalized that, I genuinely don’t even hear people misgendering me most of the time.
I’m nonbinary, most of the time my gender presentation priorities are Have Fun and Look Queer.
The first time I noticed that being misgendered slides off my brain like a wet duck I was in a 7/11 and a cashier tried to direct me to the cardboard drink sleeves while I was like 3rd or 4th in line (yeah it was kinda weird, I was holding a large hot coffee in my bare hand and I guess it freaked the dude out, but like my hands are actually really heat resistant I was fine, anyway) He said several variations on “Mam, would you like a cardboard sleeve for your coffee, they’re right there” and I legitimately did not process that he could possibly be talking to me until he tried something like “the one in the red hat” and then I tuned back in and declined the heat protectant sleeve. (I do not know why this human man was so insistent that I needed a heat protection cardboard sleeve, and I’m gathering that me totally zoned the fuck out to his multiple attempts to get my attention holding something that he apparently thought was made out of fucking lava probably had the exact Genderless Eldritch Horror effect that we all know and love)
I accidentally also did this to one of my professors a couple weeks ago, I was given an instruction with she/her pronouns in it, purely by accident, this professor genuinely does right by his trans students as best he can, but I legitimately did not even process that it was for me until he repeated it with they/them.
This compared with a couple years ago a different professor slipped up and used me in an example to the class with she/her pronouns and I literally barely held myself together until the end of the class, made it 4 steps out the door and started silently crying.
It feels fucking powerful in a “that should have hurt, and I didn’t even notice, cis people have no power over me” way. I have a little piece of the security that cis people have in the way that they interact with the world. And that is absolutely precious.
It takes untraining years of social conditioning, and pretending that you can’t fathom that someone would use those words on you, that no one has ever said that to you before and the words are so foreign that they mean nothing to you.
And yeah I started out begging my body not to flinch when a stranger calls out “mam”, and practicing a moment of confusion and unaffected disbelief when cashiers would ask if I found everything I was looking for “young lady” and deliberately ignoring the incorrect gendered terms. And you know op’s “Just look at the person like they’re an idiot, break out the deep voice and say “Um, alright then”” it will feel fake at first.
Butfuckat some point it stops being an act, and that feels fucking bulletproof.
How a Kid Knows They’re Trans Please do not repost without credit/tagging #igbyk or #itgetsbetteryk Facebook |Website
Sometimes, children who are trans get accused of not being able to “know yet”. That’s not fair. Children have incredible understanding of gender and their own identity as little people in the world.
We’re being a little silly here, but the sentiment remains true. Allow children autonomy to define themselves, and if you have any questions about how to support your trans child, contact us or post a question in the forums on our website.
Miranda Yardley and Jenn Smith are hereby challenging Morgane Oger and Brad Dirks to a structured, live, online debate on issues related to Transgender Ideology.
The title of the debate was conceived as a result of the fact that the Queen is the head of state for both Britain and British Columbia and thus all participants are either subjects or citizens of the Common…
There should be a place where bad ideas go to die, and the first idea to be shipped there on a first class, one-way express journey to abyssal depth should be what is colloquially known as “the Cotton Ceiling.” The Cotton Ceiling, coined by a male “lesbian” pornographer, refers to the barrier trans women face when denied access to sex with lesbians.
