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fleurdulys:

fleurdulys:

anyway this is what the tumblr user @idhrenniel is doing on twitter, if you follow this person please unfollow me asap


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i forgot to mention this happened because i called one of them out for spouting terf rhetoric on twitter while arguing with trans activists, talking about trans women and their “male bodies” and then claiming she just forgot the wordamab 


they have this idea that since i don’t like their brienne/cersei crackship i’m lesbophobic and they keep coming at me with this kind of crap 

I literally don’t care what side of a fandom debate you’re on; it is NEVER okay to mock someone’s appearance.

you-cant-spell-subtext-without:

so this interview [x] was done pre SPN NJ and now I’m mad about how people treated him all over again

QUESTION: “Are you affected by certain fans reactions?”

Misha: “uh, yeah. there have been times i have been - I, um, after my character died on Supernatural, I tried to kind of defend the show’s treatment of my character’s death on social media, um - partly because the producers had asked me to do that and I got a lot of pushback, and uh - I was really sad about that, it actually really affected me because I had worked really hard to get the ending for my character where he makes this declaration of love to Dean. And then the fans sort of came after me, for being…you know, not being a good ally, and I - that was hard for me. So there have been a few instances that…has been challenging.

QUESTION: “On the contrary, do the fans give you strength”

Misha: I do, but I - I can look at a twitter feed and see a hundred comments of “oh my gosh Misha i love you so much; you’re the best” [higher pitch used here], and then one person says "Misha’s not a good ally; or Misha’s not a good person” and all I see is that one. It’s called negativity bias, and it’s common - but [small self deprecating laugh] but I suffer from it.“

worst enemy characterization is making asshole characters into nice people. why cant u accept them for who they are (a cunt)

auressea:

fanfiction relations

hiya fanfiction enthusiasts on Ao3… so, I’m an AVID reader- and have been leaving comments for authors for… 15? .. more? years.

a week ago I got a reply from an author on Ao3 telling me.. essentially:

I wrote this more than 10 years ago and I’m not interested in this story at all, I don’t even go here anymore- so you can stop leaving comments on it.

… and I am.. still trying to figure out how I feel about this development. Authors? can you help me sort this out?

Thanks folks- i appreciate your perspectives.. I think I was really shocked and taken-aback. looking at it a day later, it’s pretty clear to me, that this person is Having an Experience.

I’m just gonna leave them to it.

fanfiction relations

hiya fanfiction enthusiasts on Ao3… so, I’m an AVID reader- and have been leaving comments for authors for… 15? .. more? years.

a week ago I got a reply from an author on Ao3 telling me.. essentially:

I wrote this more than 10 years ago and I’m not interested in this story at all, I don’t even go here anymore- so you can stop leaving comments on it.

… and I am.. still trying to figure out how I feel about this development. Authors? can you help me sort this out?

maddiesperez:

i truly honestly literally do NOT trust people who dislike daenerys targaryen

separatist-apologist:

The way this ask just burned me out. I’m not posting the whole thing because it links other creators whose attention I do not want as “better” representations of Elain.

Everyday I’m out here minding my own business, not talking shit about other ships, and creating more content than this book ever deserved. And too often y'all send me these obnoxious asks when you could be the change you want to see in the world. Write your own fics.

It’s disrespectful to say she deserves a book that isn’t told in flashbacks where she’s already pregnant because I think she deserves an on page emotional journey. Disrespectful to see value in her character outside of the kitchen or on her knees. OK LOL

Just say you only find value in her character if she’s shipped with a specific bat and move on.

Anyone who thinks that shipping elucien is disrespectful of Elain can fuck right off, I have literally no respect for people who have such a juvenile, half-baked, transparent view of fandom.

Just wondering, is it “disrespectful” to ship Feyre and Lucien while she was engaged to Tamlin? What about shipping Nesta and Eris while she and Cassian are doing it like bunnies? Is it okay if I ship Rhys and Tarquin? What’s okay with you, anon? Should MB send a quick message out so you, a random asshole on the internet, can give a lil morality beta reading every time she wants to post? Please tell us what is and isn’t okay in this, a fantasy book fandom, a place we all know is the most important and most serious and most morally pure thing in the world

Like MB said, I personally think it’s more gross to literally only talk about Elain in the context of her taking the bat dong but I’m not going to act like Elain is somehow harmed by that. Because she’s not real.

I’ll never get over how this fandom has decided that fictional characters have actual agency and feelings in the real world, to the point where you feel okay being an asshole to real people about it.

Elain isn’t real. Fans are.

whumpxholic:

normal-horoscopes:

Extremely funny that internet discourse around fiction has gotten to the point of “if bad things happen to fictional characters it’s because the author is evil and horny”

that is absolutely why i do bad things to fictional characters

I know I still haven’t been posting a lot, but I’ve got a pretty big bone to pick about a post going around, namely with this sudden need to twist Thomas’ character around (and Flint’s). So I’m gonna, because my last fucks have flown away.

1. First of all… Thomas is a colonizer? What exactly was Thomas supposed to do? It’s said “well he never advocated for giving the island back to the original people who lived there,” but how on earth do you think he should have done that when it’s not even “his island” to begin with (that would be his father as the one with the “title”)? And all the actual colonizing took place long before? He didn’t even have true political authority, it was all his father’s. Working through the system with the little authority he had to improve things is not the same thing. That was even a theme throughout the show (is it better to work in the system how you can or fight the war)

2. Let’s say he rebelled, did the Flint thing, and started a war to take the island back that way. Everyone would be tearing him down for being a murderer who wanted to fight an impossible war and try to discredit him, same as is being done to Flint lately. 

3. He wanted to gentrify the island? So somehow, stepping in to say “hey let’s not kill the pirates, let’s try to help them and get them on their feet instead because they don’t deserve to die” is somehow the same as wanting to just kill and hang them all? Supporting the locals who are already there and wanting to help them get on their feet is gentrifying?? Seriously?

4. I’ve seen it said “his plan was never to end slavery or bring down the empire.” Pretty big assumption to be making, considering it was never said one way or another whether he wanted slavery ended or not. Bringing down the empire? See points 1 and 2.

5. Yes, Thomas was privileged, but he was also marginalized as a gay/bi man (you can be privileged in some ways and marginalized in others, they do not cancel each other out). And honestly? I find this new trend towards twisting things to make Flint and Thomas on the same level of intent as their oppressors really disturbing. I’m not talking about legitimate criticisms of their actions, I’m talking about this need to twist them around make them worse in the name of making other characters seem better. It doesn’t matter if other characters have done bad things, or even worse things, that doesn’t take away or change someone else having done bad things and doesn’t make what they did any better.

6. And lastly, do not come at me with the whole “you’re woobifying Thomas!!” because I have been fighting the war for three years for people to stop seeing Thomas as a saint and will gladly give examples. I don’t even want to hear it.

rnorningstars:

catie-does-things:

IDK sometimes this website makes me feel like “death of the author” is soon to be followed by “death of the text”, where subjective interpretation and wish fulfillment is all that matters, and readings with the right political capital gain acceptance on that merit alone, even totally unsupported by the work itself.

see also: rewriting the movie as critiquing the moviethe whole ‘how it should have ended’ conceptno one cares about the story actually being told anymoreeveryone just wants to be told the story they want to hearand they will either ignore or distort the text to make it fit or they will cite the fact that it doesn’t fit their expectations as a flaw (x)

xxx-theartofsuicide-xxx:

“Anti harassment campaigns follow a consistent pattern where genuine concerns about real-world injustice are misinterpreted and applied to fictional properties in an attempt to create a 1:1 comparison and exert power over another (often marginalized) group. They start by leveraging performative accusations around real world issues such as sexism, racism, homophobia, sexual assault, and gendered violence against fictional characters deemed by the group to be representative of these problems. The guilt-by-association of these characters is then applied to the people who like these characters, and a general warning is issued: “stop supporting them, or else.”

When this accusation is ignored, it is then weaponized into bullying campaigns that aim to belittle and discredit women through dangerously shallow and irrational pearl clutching. The motivations and levels of participation in these harassment campaigns vary, but they tend to move from one large fandom to the next, focusing on whatever pop culture character will award them the most clout.”

A beautifully written article shown to me by my one true love @guidebetelgeuse. Please reblog. This needs to be seen.

fandom-hoarder: Oh yay i couldn’t find the original but this is fine.Here we can actually see that h

fandom-hoarder:

Oh yay i couldn’t find the original but this is fine.

Here we can actually see that his butt is still pretty similar to itself–once again, if you understand anatomy a little bit. You see, where you THINK the curve starts is actually still the curve of his lower back, and if he were standing the slope is not the same. His actual butt starts near the hem of his shirt, and most of that plumpness is actually thigh. A perfectly lovely and grabbable tush, but by no means cake.

The main difference from then and now is 17 years of fat distribution and muscle definition. Because that Dean shot is from softboy season 1! Jensen worked hard for his SB body, boy, and got broad and ripped. Thick muscled backs and thighs make butts appear smaller; so too does muscle definition on glutes, because there’s less fat.

He is simply a white man with a perfectly proportional ass. (Unlike half the white people I know.)

Condolences to everyone’s worldview, but if you’re angry or mean about Jensen’s body, I hope you never see a naked body again. Especially if you’re one of the people who’s been demanding to see it like you’re freaking entitled.


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On ending friendships with antis/fanfom assholes

So I get a lot of asks abt friendships fracturing in the current fandom, and feeling bad about being unable to just “block and move on” when dealing with people they know. and I have an experience with that that i think might help people feel less alone in it?


So: once upon a time a few years ago I made a new friend in a fandom I was really excited about. We were both writers who were active in the still-small community and who loved each other’s work. In the course of about a week we added each other on skype, started collabing on a fic, started a new edit trend in the fandom, and talked basically daily.


And then she asked me to edit a story, in which a character that I read as an abuser gets together with his victim and they are much happier and sexier together than the main ship.


I tried at first to just say I didn’t like the ship and didn’t think I was the person to edit it, but on pushing admitted that I read him as an abuser in canon and wasn’t comfortable with how dismissive her fic was of his behavior. She took this………. poorly. Basically said I was accusing her personally of being an abuser, because she related to this character, and that I was trying to manipulate her into only writing the pairing we had in common. I said “no, I just don’t want to beta this fic for you”, and we….. sort of dropped it.


But - and you may have noticed this about me - I can’t leave a topic well enough alone if my life depended on it, and her insistence that I was reading him as an abuser to spite her annoyed me, so I wrote a post breaking down basically everything the character had done so far, how his ex acted and spoke around him, and how those look a lot like abusive behaviors and trauma. And… well, let’s just say just about everyone in the tumblr fandom saw it within the next couple days.


I spent about 12 hours getting positive responses and “I don’t agree but I appreciate the thought you put into this”. And then his stans found me.


I…. don’t think I need to go into how this went? We know the song and dance; I had to shut down my askbox, locked my social media profiles, stopped accepting Skype friend requests, and endured a ton of people telling me that I was A) calling them, personally, abusers or B) was trivializing abuse and was the worst kind of tumblrite or C) should just choke and die already. Sometimes all three, it was a very fun….. 72 hours or so.


Anyways. After the initial backlash, there was a group of about 8-9 people who were still stubbornly going after me and anyone associated with me on every platform they could find. (I would find out later that they made a group chat and all became friends over their hatred of me, which is kind of flattering and kind of fucking obnoxious.) One charmingly implied, after I admitted to being an abuse survivor, that either I was lying or I deserved it. My new friend, who’d been mostly silent through all this, was mutuals with all of them.


I went to her with their behavior, and she said, essentially, “it’s not my business, you said stuff that really hurt them” and I said “I literally wrote meta, it is not my fault that they took it this personally. I’m a real person, this character they’re defending isn’t.” and she…. wasn’t willing to talk to them, or ask them to stop, or even just not share my content with this group (god, remember when tumblr’s blocking features were even worse somehow? Me too). After about a week and a half I decided I had to just block her too and move on with my life, because I was miserable and anxious and wanted to unlock my damn accounts.

It hurt. I guess that’s what I’m getting at. I knew her for maybe 20 days total, and we barely spoke for the last 10, and yet it still hurt, y’know? It can really, really suck, to have people you connect with turn out to be totally willing to hurt you, or leave you out in the cold, because of an opinion about fiction. If I was younger when this happened, I may well have backed down on my opinion to save the friendship. As it was I had to get a LOT of reassurance that I hadn’t done anything wrong and didn’t deserve what happened.


This isn’t something with a grand solution. It sucked, I got hurt, I had to end a friendship for my own health and lean on my other friends while I got over it. If I’d known her for months, or years, I can’t imagine how much worse it would have been. “Block and move on” is ok advice when it’s strangers shouting at you; it is infinitely harder when it’s mutuals, friends, people you trust and like doing this to you. I have nothing but sympathy for people who struggle with leaving friends because those friends are being assholes about fandom opinions. Cutting friends off is hard, of course it’s hard, and it’s a personal decision. Just because it’s technically easier to cut someone off online doesn’t mean it’s emotionally easier. Be kind to yourself about this stuff.

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