hey I just want season 4 to end because it’s a mess and both marinette and adrien deserve happiness and therapy.
so, here’s my proposal:
finish the show so we can do a fan-led and funded (because there’s like a ton of people in the fandom) remake with help from the great fanfic authors! let’s do a fix-it show where the characters are written consistently and with care and development, actual lore, and stuff!
idk just an idea because kuro neko just– I don’t even know anymore
HE ASKED FOR NO PICKLES is how I’d describe the ladynoir dynamic in psycomedian (ty millie for the delicious meme I could draw )
I like how everyone made fun of psycomedian but it’s actually such a fun episode… and the implication that Gabriel (Gaby, lmao) Agreste designed Mr. Banana’s costume, poor man can’t catch a break
Against the sentimonster theory and theorizing the directionality of the shows endgame:
In reaction to all of the Adrien!Sentimonster theories, I really hope the show doesn’t go there. As someone who grew up in a controlling and verbally abusive household, I think Adrien’s reactions to 1. getting told to do something by his father, 2. pushing back, 3. having his father speak even more firmly and decisively (while happening to rub his ring), and then 4. acquiescing are very true of abuse. Adrien is only 14-15. He’s lived a very sheltered life and right now, his father is all he really has in terms of traditional family. He knows that his father was/is greatly hurt by the “absence” of Emilie and is “doing what he can.” (Irl Gabriel is a garbage human). But to Adrien, Gabriel is his hurting but nevertheless controlling father. So I really hope the show would not go down the sentimonster path. It would simultaneously increase the horror of Adrien’s situation as a true pawn (and not just a model and spokesman for his father’s brand) and semi-negate Gabriel’s crimes as a child abuser. Part of the wonder of Adrien’s character is by all accounts he could thematically be the villain. Abused, missing mother, destruction abilities, bad luck. But that’s not who he is. He hasn’t been corrupted by his father’s blind ambition. Unless he was created by Emilie directly from her love, it doesn’t fit for him not to fully change to Gabriel’s will. And as we know from Voldemort, beings created through misguided love aren’t sustainable. I can’t see the sentimonster theory ending any other way then Adrien “dying.” Or at minimum forever being at risk of being controlled again, which is not a life he would want. I would hate for the show to go that way for Adrien’s sake.
Instead of that theory, what we have is a great on-screen depiction of daily micro-controlling abuse. Refuse, get overruled, acquiesce. We constantly see Adrien’s desire for freedom and validation and love outside of the home. The close bonding to the people who do truly love him. And a love for the parent who abuses him, like making excuses for Gabriel’s warped reasoning. This is something that may take a lifetime for Adrien to overcome; never mind his father also being Hawkmoth. He already has enough on his plate, let the boy be happy.
The ring rubbing could simply just be a habit/tick of Gabriel’s. When he needs parenting authority, he rubs his ring, thinking of his wife, who doubtless would know how to converse with Adrien better. We don’t see Hawkmoth rubbing his ring under his supersuit when he needs strength, it’s just with Adrien. When in doubt as a parent specifically, he invokes his wife’s metaphorical aid. (If not this I have another theory on this, see below**).
On the Endgame:
While speaking of Gabriel, after the double confirmation from Chat Blanc and now Ephemeral that Ladybug and Chat Noir can’t reveal their identities without Hawkmoth finding out eventually, I think the only way the reveal could stick beforeHawkmoth is defeated, is for Gabriel to be revealed as Hawkmoth first. If Chat Noir and/or Ladybug secretly find out who Hawkmoth is, you bet your ass Ladybug would be swooping into Adrien’s window to take him away from that monster. Hawkmoth won’t go down easy so I don’t think it will be a reveal and bam he’s in jail. The man has minimum two secret rooms in his house and countless resources at his disposal. If the pair know who their enemy is, they could reveal to each other and keep the truth from their now known enemy. As the show has now repeatedly confirmed, it won’t work if LB/CN don’t know what civilian to keep the secret from. Both times he found out and then was able to plan to use it against them, it was due to his actions as Gabriel and found out as himself/from Natalie, not during a fight as Hawkmoth where it would be fixed with the ladybugs. If they know, they can lie better. Keep the secret better. (And hopefully also get Adrien away from Gabriel). But also, as the fight scenes showed in Ephemeral, LB/CN are stronger when the truth is (even partially) out there. They will need their fully united strength to defeat Hawkmoth. Based on the rules the show has given so far, that’s the only way I can see a reveal going before Hawkmoth’s defeat. Hawkmoth reveal, Adrien knows what he’s dealing with at home, all cards on the table for a full reveal, then mastermind the Hawkmoth takedown. Having a partial/full LB/CN reveal led to Hawkmoth winning and making the Wish. Revealing him first would accordingly serve to turn the tables in LB/CN’s favor. And maybe that’s the show’s endgame.***
** Additional rings theory: either an incomplete but still powerful Miraculous with influence based powers (we’ve seen the two together but not both on one person I believe, or maybe there is more of the set). Or a copy of a miraculous or else some other powerful object outside of the miraculous that grants similar powers of influence and control. We know there are other Miraculous and other objects of power in world, so I could totally vibe with it being something else ancient and powerful outside of the miraculous/Sentimonsters. Further, Adrien is the only person who really says no to his father. Everyone else in Gabriel’s life is either on his payroll, pacified by his fame and wealth, or akumatized. The only time he needs extra influence is with his son. Hence conscious or not, he uses the ring to gain the upper hand.
***Had Gabriel one-sided revealed himself to Adrien in Felix, we might have been on this course already.
