Real question: do you all things like moods/temperament be genetic?
Knowing how my mother is, I wouldn’t doubt I got my easy anger and “willingness to fuck shit up” from my mother’s sperm donor. Don’t quite know how I feel about that though
claiming that penetration is normal or supposed to happen because girls and women have vaginas is rape apology. it is implying that the female body is made to be raped, that its anatomy is justification for sexual violence.
This guy says Dylan Mulvaney’s daily “girlhood” TikToks are making him feel like maybe these things are things he could do too.
Here’s a lesson for you guys: women don’t want to talk to strangers in bathrooms or locker rooms or changing rooms, and especially not men, because we get sexually assaulted or raped in spaces where we’re vulnerable.
Being mostly alone, in a public space, and partially or totally naked is NOT a time we want to be talking to strange men to validate them.
Please take note. This is not the great idea you think it is. If you think you’re facing backlash now, just make it a thing to strike up conversations about how your “girlhood” is going with us in our spaces and see how fast public opinion tanks.
Well, it was only a matter of time. On May 4th our minister of Law introduced a bill on behalf of our minister of Emancipation (the irony is painful), proposing to simply the procedure to change the gender on your birth certificate. A declaration by a licensed doctor or psychologist will no longer be required. Instead, someone will be able to file in writing to have their legal sex changed. Four to twelve weeks later they will receive confirmation.
Furthermore, the minimum age requirement of 16 years to have your gender legally changed will be dropped as well. Children younger than 16 will be able to change their gender if they get permission from a judge.
The impact of this on women’s rights, safety and well-being has not been considered. At all. The Council of State reviewed the proposed bill and only requested clarification on the justification for dropping the age requirement, and whether the weight of the decision for the individual is properly safeguarded when a professional no longer has to be involved.
Answer to 1: sometimes children under 16 are clear about their “gender” being “set”, so not being able to have their birth certificate changed yet is “difficult. Answer to 2: this decision is up to the individual and the government should be involved as little as possible. Right of self-determination is the most important.
The Council of State agreed to these “justifications” and is now fine with this bill, which will now be debated in the House of Representatives. Again: no consideration at all for the impact on women. Maybe because women have already lost their legal protection to begin with. Unlike the U.K. and the U.S., the Netherlands do not list sex as a protected characteristic. Instead they’ve used gender (geslacht), and a few years ago they changed the law to add that gender identity and gender expression fall under the protected category of gender. So excluding a man with a womanly identity, or even expression, from female-only spaces is already forbidden.
@girlsfrommars@dutchradfem Sorry about the blunt @, but since you’re one of the few Dutch radfems on here, I thought you might want to know this. The proposed bill can be found here. I fear there is very little hope stopping this. So far the Netherlands ignore the more critical stances that have risen up in the UK and Sweden. And unlike the UK, we do not have any feminist organizations that haven’t been hijacked by liberal feminism and trans activism, except for Voorzijand they are very small.
Update:because Sander Dekker, our (still under resignation, by the way) minister for Law Protection is a useless ass, this bill is still underway without any precautions taken to protect the safety and dignity of women and girls.
All concerns about the potential for abuse have been hand waved away with “We Don’t Think That Will Happen”. Despite the fact that those exact things are already happening abroad. Cases from the UK, Canada and the USA are conveniently ignored. Instead, Dekker defers to an investigation into self-ID in Argentina, Norway, Ireland and Malta, which concluded that Nothing Ever Happened. If anyone does have examples about trans abuse in those countries, I would love to hear them. I am aware of the number of female rapists in Norway increasing with 300% between 2015 and 2017, with self-ID being introduced in 2016, and of Barbie Kardashian in Ireland. Is there anything else known?
Apparently there was another vote on whether to mark this bill as “controversial” and postpone it, because the Netherlands still do not have a new government after elections early this year. But of course legalizing voyeurism and exhibitionism in women’s changing rooms and making all sex-based statistics unreliable and meaningless is still not deemed controversial, so on we go. The bill is now scheduled to be discussed in the House of Representatives on the 24th of January.
Well, it was only a matter of time. On May 4th our minister of Law introduced a bill on behalf of our minister of Emancipation (the irony is painful), proposing to simply the procedure to change the gender on your birth certificate. A declaration by a licensed doctor or psychologist will no longer be required. Instead, someone will be able to file in writing to have their legal sex changed. Four to twelve weeks later they will receive confirmation.
Furthermore, the minimum age requirement of 16 years to have your gender legally changed will be dropped as well. Children younger than 16 will be able to change their gender if they get permission from a judge.
The impact of this on women’s rights, safety and well-being has not been considered. At all. The Council of State reviewed the proposed bill and only requested clarification on the justification for dropping the age requirement, and whether the weight of the decision for the individual is properly safeguarded when a professional no longer has to be involved.
Answer to 1: sometimes children under 16 are clear about their “gender” being “set”, so not being able to have their birth certificate changed yet is “difficult. Answer to 2: this decision is up to the individual and the government should be involved as little as possible. Right of self-determination is the most important.
The Council of State agreed to these “justifications” and is now fine with this bill, which will now be debated in the House of Representatives. Again: no consideration at all for the impact on women. Maybe because women have already lost their legal protection to begin with. Unlike the U.K. and the U.S., the Netherlands do not list sex as a protected characteristic. Instead they’ve used gender (geslacht), and a few years ago they changed the law to add that gender identity and gender expression fall under the protected category of gender. So excluding a man with a womanly identity, or even expression, from female-only spaces is already forbidden.
@girlsfrommars@dutchradfem Sorry about the blunt @, but since you’re one of the few Dutch radfems on here, I thought you might want to know this. The proposed bill can be found here. I fear there is very little hope stopping this. So far the Netherlands ignore the more critical stances that have risen up in the UK and Sweden. And unlike the UK, we do not have any feminist organizations that haven’t been hijacked by liberal feminism and trans activism, except for Voorzijand they are very small.
I had no idea this was even going on because all the political news is about Corona virus. I am lost for words honestly. I am a law student but we were always taught that ‘’geslacht’’ legally speaking referred to sex. It’s in article 1 of the Constitution. So we’re supposed to believe this refers to ‘’gender identity’’ even though other grounds of discrimination (sexual orientation, disability) are not even mentioned explicitly but are covered implicitly? I have heard of Voorzij and I am following them on Twitter but Jesus Christ I had no idea the situation was this urgent
Just like everywhere else, all this legislation is ushered through pretty quietly. Late last year they also came with a proposal to add sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression and gender characteristics (as in intersex) as protected characteristics against hate speech and group defamation, while gender/sex remains excluded. So by that logic an offensive statement about TIMs will become punishable hate speech while that same statement about women will not.
You can see here (Arikel 1, punt 2) that gender identity and expression are listed as being encompassed by the category gender. I believe they were added in 2018. By the way, hetero- and homosexual orientation have recently been added too.
I know the College voor de Rechten van de Mens does not offer any binding decisions but their decisions are held in high regard by other institutions, including government institutions, so this quite worrying. A human rights court can consider the ‘’rights’’ of men but not the rights of women
I don’t even know what ‘’gender expression’’ is supposed to be mean. Firing a man because he’s feminine would already be illegal considering it counts as sexism. So you’re allowed to fire him, but only if he ‘’identifies’’ as male?
I had no idea the woke gender ideology had set foot here as well, I’d always assumed it wasn’t as bad as in Canada or something. The again, I think the government recently apologised to the transgender community because back in the day they’d require some form of surgery to be able to change your legal gender, which transgenders perceive as ‘’forced sterilisation’’ (lmao as if)
Exactly, and with the explicit inclusion of gender identity and expression as aspects of “geslacht” in the Constitution, the odds don’t seem too great of a real court ruling in women’s favor to exclude men. A woman contacted the Ministry of Education, Culture and Science about the ruling on the women’s toilets in school and asked whether female students still had a right to single-sex facilities in schools. The answer was no, because excluding “trans women” from women’s facilities is now discrimination. The representative even went so far as to say that maybe it would “take some getting used to to encountering women with “manly” characteristics” in these spaces. And dragged up claims about trans people’s increased risk of suffering violence as justification. Again: safety was not a concern for this trans student, as he was offered the use of a single stall, but that was not good enough for him. It were the female students who felt uncomfortable and unsafe, but they will just have to suck it up and get used to it.
They’re hardly defining those terms. The proposed hate speech has the same issue with the terms not being properly defined. Plus in that one they want to use “seksuele gerichtheid” as protected characteristic instead of heterosexual and homosexual orientation. They claim that that Dutch term is a more accurate translation of the more commonly used “sexual orientation” in other languages, but somehow this Dutch phrasing seems much more open to include all manners of fetishes and kinks. They’re aware of some of the danger in that, because they did add the restriction that the sexual orientation in question should not be illegal, so they don’t inadvertently end up making pedophilia and bestiality protected. But no definition beyond that, probably so they won’t exclude any of the ever-growing number of sexual orientations. I also wonder whether gender expression can be used to say that a man wearing makeup or something has a “womanly” gender expression and should have access to women’s facilities on those grounds. I surely hope that kind of reasoning is still a bridge too far.
We might not be quite up to Canada’s level yet but we’re sure following its shiny example. Plans to ban conversion therapy, under which they include therapy for trans people to help them come to terms with their biological sex, are in the works as well, so it looks like it won’t be long until we have the full set. Almost every political party supports all of this. Only the SGP takes a firm stance against it, and occasionally ChristenUnie and Forum voor Democratie raise more critical questions too. Obviously those first two parties repel non-religious/non-christian voters and the latter repels for… different reasons. :’) Everything more on the Left and everything more progressive is on board and refuses to even engage in conversation about this.
Yup, you got that right. Not only did the government apologize for this “forced sterilisation”, I believe they also suggested people who underwent these surgeries might receive financial compensation. It’s wild. Being able to legally change your gender used to be a sort of accommodation for people who underwent these surgeries. Now things have gotten switched around and changing legal gender has become a goal in itself, and the surgeries a “mandatory” barrier to that goal.
The law is supposed to be neutral but it obviously places transgenders’ feelings above women’s feelings if these self-identification laws are taken to the extreme. Somehow trans women being in men’s changing rooms is dangerous for them, but the idea of men falsely identifying as trans women and endangering women is never considered. If the concern were safety, they’d feel happy about a third, neutral space.
I feel like ‘’seksuele gerichtheid’’ and ‘’seksuele geaardheid/orientatie’’ mean the same thing whereas homosexual and heterosexual orientation exclude bisexuality as a third potential cause for discrimination. I’m not sure if anyone has ever been discriminated against for being attracted to both sexes at the same time specifically (rather than a bisexual facing discrimination due to their same-sex attraction alone) but it’s a theoretical possibility. I believe ‘’biphobia’’ has a better chance of existing than ‘’heterophobia’’, to put it bluntly. If the law mentions heterosexuality, it should also mention bisexuality. Strange how that’s overlooked but we’ve got three different terms for gender identity.
The ChristianUnion is technically a left-wing party except it doesn’t have a reputation of being progressive. Not surprising that SGP is against it considering they want to legally outlaw gay marriage again, as well as gay adopting, therefore presumably taking away children from gay and lesbian couples (they never mention this but it would be the logical outcome of their proposed plans). Baudet recently announced an essay contest on Twitter and encouraged people to think about what homosexuality exactly is, thus implying he’s not sure if it’s an orientation, a mental illness, or something else, and he also implied the woke crowd is turning all the kids gay? So we don’t have much of an opposition going on.
I don’t know if you know this but in the European Council (not the EU) it is mandatory that States give people the opportunity to change their legal gender, but they’re free to determine the conditions. This has been the case ever since a case called Goodwin vs. UK. This case was from 2002 (thanks, Google), therefore the Dutch State is obliged to allow legal gender changes. Even Russia allows it for this reason (although in Russia it is much more difficult because like I said, States are free to determine the conditions still). Gay marriage though? Nooooo that’s fine for States to outlaw hahaha the cis gays are oppressing all the trans though!!!!!!!!
I think that “seksuele geaardheid” implies a more innate sexuality rather than whatever paraphilia might turn you on, but I suppose that’s just splitting hairs at this point. With the current, very broad interpretation of sexuality both terms will probably be interpreted as encompassing way more than hetero-, homo- and bisexuality. I do agree that heterosexual orientation never needed to be explicitly mentioned as protected under the Constitution. Obviously you won’t be discriminated against for being heterosexual in the Netherlands, or anywhere else. There are some prejudices and biases against bi people in particular but I can’t really think of a scenario where they’d be grounds for a discrimination case. Bi women experience higher rates of domestic violence for instance, but it’s hard to argue that this is discrimination. Like you said, it’s the same-sex attraction part that’s far more likely to face discrimination. I do believe homosexual orientation should remain an explicitly mentioned protected category. We already have people calling lesbians scary vagina fetishists for excluding TIMs from their dating pool here as well. With a vague, muddled interpretation of sexual orientation I fear that protection of gay and lesbian people might be further eroded.
Yeah, SGP really is a case where the trans-critical stance is connected to anti-gay. They’re against outlawing actual conversion therapy for gay people as well. And of course they’re fiercely anti-abortion. It’s really ironic that what used to be the most anti-women party is the only one left who still knows what a woman is. On some other issues they even align more with radfem stances than other parties who claim to be pro-emancipation: they want to introduce the Nordic Model for prostitution and are against surrogacy (side-track: a lot of parties mentioned intent to introduce more lenient rules for surrogacy in their election program, VVD even wants to allow commercial surrogacy). They and the ChristenUnie are also the only ones asking for more research into the sharp rise among teen girls who want to transition, and the only one pleading for more support for detransitioners. But saying you’ve got the SGP and Baudet on your side is more likely to repel people who aren’t in either of those corners, so it’s hardly a ringing endorsement indeed… That also makes it easier for the other parties to dismiss them. Which is why things are looking bleak.
I did not know that about the European Council. The EU is getting more involved as well though. They’ve expressed plans to criminalize hate speech (including criticizing gender ideology) and again consider therapy for trans-identifying people conversion therapy that should be phased out of existence. Psh, women and gay people can be thrown under the bus. COC, which used to be the most prominent Dutch organization for LGB emancipation, is dipping their toes in with classic conversion therapy themselves. They advised a gay man who struggled with his homosexuality to transition to a woman (mentioned in this report). That way he could have heterosexual relationships. Problem solved! Taking inspiration from Iran much?
Bonus: you haven’t missed that we’ve got our own first TIM in the House of Representatives now, have you (courtesy to D66)? He’s also the chair of trans lobby organization Transvisie. Turns out he kept a blog between 2012 and 2017 about his “trans journey”. He has since deleted it, but the internet doesn’t forget. You don’t need to delve deep into it for the autogynephilia to become obvious. February 2012 already has a post in which he wrote about masturbating in the bathroom when visiting friends in women’s clothes for the first time…
Update on the current status of the proposed bill: on June 9th the House of Representatives will decide whether the topic is deemed “controversial” and will be discussed at a later date. This is because we don’t have an official new government after elections yet. The numbers of seats each party has earned in the House of Representatives is already known, but they have yet to come to an agreement between parties to reach a coalition that forms a majority and will make it easier/feasible for them to rule and pass laws. A proposed bill on banning LGBTI (yes, all those letters) conversion therapy has already been classified as controversial and postponed. However, because that bill already has a majority of support, some parties are trying to go ahead and still get it pushed through soon.
As for the self-id bill, seems like they’ve sneaked even more into that one. There is now mention of assigning a curator if a child under the age of 16 wants to change their legal gender registration but their parents/guardians do not agree. The curator can then decide “in the best interests of the child”. So parents who try to prevent their child from transitioning could soon be overruled by the State. This was a suggestion made by a trans lobby group, Transgender Netwerk Nederland, and apparently one our government intends to adopt.
They’ve also noted that they received a lot of responses from citizens about this proposed bill, and that those were split pretty evenly between supportive and critical. The justification for ignoring the critical half? “The step to make the inner conviction of the transgender person leading in the choice to change the gender registration has already been made in previous legislation. This proposed bill does not bring about any change in that regard.” So because they had already opened the door to a crack before, might now as well remove the bolts and swing it wide open. Makes no difference, surely. They still refuse to take concerns about the spike of referrals in young girls to gender clinics seriously either and will not start an investigation into that phenomenon.
@girlsfrommars Tagging you for the update. If you don’t want me to do that anymore, just let me know. The agenda for June 9th can be found here. It’s item 5 on the list. The attachments contain what looks like the more formal proposal of the bill and an addition (Memorie van toelichting) with clarifications. In the addition they mention the reactions they received and why they see no problem whatsoever in dismissing concerns. Interestingly, the curator thing is only mentioned in this addition too and not the actual bill proposal. I don’t know how normal that is though? It does feel very sneaky.
Well, it was only a matter of time. On May 4th our minister of Law introduced a bill on behalf of our minister of Emancipation (the irony is painful), proposing to simply the procedure to change the gender on your birth certificate. A declaration by a licensed doctor or psychologist will no longer be required. Instead, someone will be able to file in writing to have their legal sex changed. Four to twelve weeks later they will receive confirmation.
Furthermore, the minimum age requirement of 16 years to have your gender legally changed will be dropped as well. Children younger than 16 will be able to change their gender if they get permission from a judge.
The impact of this on women’s rights, safety and well-being has not been considered. At all. The Council of State reviewed the proposed bill and only requested clarification on the justification for dropping the age requirement, and whether the weight of the decision for the individual is properly safeguarded when a professional no longer has to be involved.
Answer to 1: sometimes children under 16 are clear about their “gender” being “set”, so not being able to have their birth certificate changed yet is “difficult. Answer to 2: this decision is up to the individual and the government should be involved as little as possible. Right of self-determination is the most important.
The Council of State agreed to these “justifications” and is now fine with this bill, which will now be debated in the House of Representatives. Again: no consideration at all for the impact on women. Maybe because women have already lost their legal protection to begin with. Unlike the U.K. and the U.S., the Netherlands do not list sex as a protected characteristic. Instead they’ve used gender (geslacht), and a few years ago they changed the law to add that gender identity and gender expression fall under the protected category of gender. So excluding a man with a womanly identity, or even expression, from female-only spaces is already forbidden.
@girlsfrommars@dutchradfem Sorry about the blunt @, but since you’re one of the few Dutch radfems on here, I thought you might want to know this. The proposed bill can be found here. I fear there is very little hope stopping this. So far the Netherlands ignore the more critical stances that have risen up in the UK and Sweden. And unlike the UK, we do not have any feminist organizations that haven’t been hijacked by liberal feminism and trans activism, except for Voorzijand they are very small.
Well, there we go. It was only a matter of time! The Dutch now have their very own first AGP in government: Lisa van Ginneken. Van Ginneken’s political party (D66) received more votes this election, ensuring this number 22 on the party list got to claim a seat in the Tweede Kamer (Second Chamber, the body of the government that can create laws).
Van Ginneken is also leader of trans lobby group Transvisie, and in that role does what one can expect: fight for self-id, to allow general practitioners and doctors specialized in treating children to prescribe puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones (the effects of which are all harmless and reversible!) without interference of pesky psychologist, and wave around guarantees about suicide to silence any dissent and debate (not that there’s much of that happening in the Netherlands).
He appears to be a textbook example of an autogynephile. Straight man with kids who transitioned later in life. I googled his name, waded through the dozens of articles celebrating the first transgender person in the Second Chamber, and stumbled on his old blogspot, dedicated to his trans journey between 2012 and 2017. He has since deleted the blog, but the internet doesn’t forget. :) Or at least the WayBackMachine doesn’t, so I got to access it. The first two posts already gave me AGP-vibes (writing as if he’s a young school girl and mentioning how good his skinny jeans make his great ass look), and I only had to reach the second batch of posts to make it painfully obvious. He wrote about masturbating in the bathroom when visiting a friend for the first time as his woman-sona, and about masturbating when his arm touched his breast prosthetic while reaching for a cup of tea. And yet he claimed it was not a fetish.
Self-id becoming reality in the Netherlands within the next four years is practically guaranteed. And Van Ginneken is undoubtedly going to do his part to dismiss any concerns about the treatment of dysphoric kids and the large increase of young girls seeking treatment.
So gyns, I would like to make an instagram to translate tumblr radblr posts so to introduce normie women to (radical) feminist ideas…
Since I can be very slow anyway, I will ask permission to print and put your link in the post descriptions, alright? If you prefer I don’t post with your url, I will erase your url in the print and the text on the description will be my Portuguese translation, so don’t worry about normal people going to search for your exact words.
(I mean there are obsessed tras out there but I really think we should try to reach women through all channels possible and I think radblr text posts is a tremendous useful introductionto feminist ideas.)
Ok, I want to propose a question: (and this isn’t to take away anyone’s responsibility for one’s actions but)
Isn’t there ultimately something wrong with one’s brain when a person does something horrible? Like abusing/killing/torturing women, children, animals, etc? I’m saying it in the sense that, for example and as far as I know, don’t psychopaths have a part of their brains damaged to the point they cannot feel empathy?
Once again, that’s not to imply psychopaths don’t know what they may do wrong is wrong, or inhuman, but that yes, being so “evil” to the point of making others suffer for pleasure or something, is something that damages one’s brain or was done in conjunction with a damaged brain which cannot process certain emotions that make it possible for us to live together without we all kill each other.
You know, I had this whole post typed out explaining why we as trans people are not wrong or misogynistic for hating terfs, but I had like a moment of clarity. I had written almost ten paragraphs of beautiful metaphors and passionate explanations. But I just. Stopped. Because I knew that no matter how much I explain that hating someone for trying to deny you basic respect is perfectly reasonable, all these fucking terfs will ever reply is “BUT TRANS WAMENS R MENNNN WAHHHHHH”. All they’ll ever see is a “tra” trying to BrAiNwAsH them into respecting trans people’s identities. It just makes me so fucking depressed. They ignore us when we present facts, they ignore us when we bargain, they ignore us when we beg, they ignore us while we die, they ignore us when we try to push them out of our spaces. But the moment we finally snap and get angry, when one of us finally gets tired of being ignored and says “Terfs can choke on glass”, they start listening. “LOOK AT THE TRAS GOD THEYRE SO VIOLENT I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND, WE ARE ALWAYS SO CALM AND RATIONAL AND THEY SAID I DESERVE TO DIE?! THIS IS PROOF THAT TRANS PEOPLE HATE ALL WOMEN!” No, we don’t hate women. We hate you. You, very specifically. We hate TERFs. We hate being told that we do not deserve to exist. We hate being told that nothing we feel matters more than what our bodies look like. We hate you. I love women, ESPECIALLY trans women.
Terfs lost their" human" badge when they decided to join a movement to oppress trans people. They’re just a trash can painted with human features.
Terf = “Trash erasing real feminism”
Interesting how we’re always being told that “Terfs” are dehumanizing trans people by pointing out which sex they actually are and in turn why their rhetoric is inherently sexist and then they use that as an excuse to actually depeople and dehumanize women who speak out.
We know what is in our pants you blithering idiot, the issue is that it’s none of your fucking business. You aren’t fucking me, feeding me, or financing me, which means your opinion is worthless to me.
Also, that “trans pewplw awe sexist wahhh” shit needs to stop. We are trying to exist in a way that makes us happy, and you want to prevent that. That’s the two sides of the argument.
One side (us) wants to exist in peace, wants to be respected as human beings and not have our existence debated.
The other side (you) wants to prevent that.
But no obviously us horrible transes are the problem. It’s amazing how salty terfs get when we dare to fight back, and god forbid we get angry right.
k, thanks for being a misogynist lol
Have you ever heard of chilling the fuck out, op? women are allowed to have dissenting views. Not everyone has to politely agree with your politics, especially if you’re spewing toxic shit like that ^.
Women? Yes
Terfs? No
All terfs may be women, but all women are not terfs. And your “dissenting views” are being forced on our lives and our bodies. I don’t have to agree politely with you either
Terfs lost their" human" badge when they decided to join a movement to oppress trans people. They’re just a trash can painted with human features.
Terf = “Trash erasing real feminism”
Interesting how we’re always being told that “Terfs” are dehumanizing trans people by pointing out which sex they actually are and in turn why their rhetoric is inherently sexist and then they use that as an excuse to actually depeople and dehumanize women who speak out.
We know what is in our pants you blithering idiot, the issue is that it’s none of your fucking business. You aren’t fucking me, feeding me, or financing me, which means your opinion is worthless to me.
Also, that “trans pewplw awe sexist wahhh” shit needs to stop. We are trying to exist in a way that makes us happy, and you want to prevent that. That’s the two sides of the argument.
One side (us) wants to exist in peace, wants to be respected as human beings and not have our existence debated.
The other side (you) wants to prevent that.
But no obviously us horrible transes are the problem. It’s amazing how salty terfs get when we dare to fight back, and god forbid we get angry right.
Terfs lost their" human" badge when they decided to join a movement to oppress trans people. They’re just a trash can painted with human features.
Terf = “Trash erasing real feminism”
Interesting how we’re always being told that “Terfs” are dehumanizing trans people by pointing out which sex they actually are and in turn why their rhetoric is inherently sexist and then they use that as an excuse to actually depeople and dehumanize women who speak out.
We know what is in our pants you blithering idiot, the issue is that it’s none of your fucking business. You aren’t fucking me, feeding me, or financing me, which means your opinion is worthless to me.
Also, that “trans pewplw awe sexist wahhh” shit needs to stop. We are trying to exist in a way that makes us happy, and you want to prevent that. That’s the two sides of the argument.
One side (us) wants to exist in peace, wants to be respected as human beings and not have our existence debated.
The other side (you) wants to prevent that.
But no obviously us horrible transes are the problem. It’s amazing how salty terfs get when we dare to fight back, and god forbid we get angry right.
Trans women: *have no uteri and no uterine lining to shed*
Trans women: wow my lower abdomen hurts and i haven’t pooped in 3 days must be my period someone pass me some chocolate before i commit homicide uwu
Periods:
Trans women DO have periods, and not just small stomachaches. True, they cannot menstrate, but they experience all of the symptoms (cramps, cravings, irritableness, etc) because just like in cis women, their levels in estrogen drop during this time.
hey I’m a girl who gets her period, i dont get cravings, im not irritable, and i rarely cramp during my period. this doesnt mean i dont have a period, because a period is the shedding of the uterine lining out of the uterus. males do not have a uterus or a vagina. the period is not a stomach ache, a bad mood, or a want for chocolate. your misogyny is showing
I don’t even know why I’m bothering to answer a sexual predator who hides behind radfem rhetoric
But just because you don’t experience the symptoms doesn’t mean they aren’t tied to periods. Their period, just like a cis women, is caused by hormones. They experience all the syptoms of a period for the same reason cis women, a cycle of hormones.
For someone dedicated to pretending trans people are horrible and inhuman, you sure don’t know a lot about us.
a penis will never be female and a vagina will never be male! and you know why this isnt validating to trans people? because neovaginas and phalloplasties arent real vaginas and penises! because an open wound that serves as a fuck hole isnt a vagina, and a tube of flesh from your arm isnt a penis! the dictionary is on google!
Oh my look at that edge….looks like mutilation lingo’s back in TERF fashion this month.
ok but a neovagina is literally an open wound, that’s why you need to dilate it? and that’s how you do a phalloplasty tho??? like it’s literally how it works??? ksjdksjs
And there ya go just digging deeper.
You really do need to do this stuff really badly don’t you?
I also didnt say anything about mutilation bro but ok
Not a bro, never a bro.
And yet you still went with the theme even if you didn’t use the exact word.
Strawman all you want on this but ya literally went there and you’re hard defending the choice.
Like I said you really do need this kinda of stuff badly.
Can we discuss the hypersexualization of trans people by this terf? “”“"open wound that serves as a FUCK HOLE”“”“”“
But then they accuse us of being predatory??? The only people I’ve heard use the term “fuck hole” in place of vagina are incels and rapists. And now terfs.
hello??? a transwomans surgery hole isnt a vagina
Neither is your skull, but you’d flip shit if I called that a fuck hole
this is the dumbest shit I’ve seen in my life
you cant fuck a skull
a neovagina serves NO PURPOSE besides fucking
you know why?
because it cant give birth
You can, in fact, fuck a skull. Google it livestream your response lmfao some weird shit.
Vaginas, which they are called stop with the neo shit, aren’t there for the sole purpose of having sex with. And its pretty fucking gross to say that about anyone, especially a woman. Why do you sound like an incel
jesus christ I’m not talking about female vaginas
I’m talking about the inverted penis of a trans identified male
it’s not a vagina. you know why? because the vagina is the tunnel that leads to the cervix
which males do not have
please please PLEASE fact check for once
You’re trying realllllly hard to cover up your misogyny and it’s sad. Calling ANYONE’s body, be them cis or trans or nonbinary, is misogynistic and ties heavily into incel/rapist rhetoric. People like you are why everyone hates radfems, even though they like to pretend you don’t exist. They all want to pretend the radfem movement is all civil and peaceful and us horrid transies are the violent ones.
Let me add to their hate: Go fuck a blender blade set on pulse
a penis will never be female and a vagina will never be male! and you know why this isnt validating to trans people? because neovaginas and phalloplasties arent real vaginas and penises! because an open wound that serves as a fuck hole isnt a vagina, and a tube of flesh from your arm isnt a penis! the dictionary is on google!
Oh my look at that edge….looks like mutilation lingo’s back in TERF fashion this month.
ok but a neovagina is literally an open wound, that’s why you need to dilate it? and that’s how you do a phalloplasty tho??? like it’s literally how it works??? ksjdksjs
And there ya go just digging deeper.
You really do need to do this stuff really badly don’t you?
I also didnt say anything about mutilation bro but ok
Not a bro, never a bro.
And yet you still went with the theme even if you didn’t use the exact word.
Strawman all you want on this but ya literally went there and you’re hard defending the choice.
Like I said you really do need this kinda of stuff badly.
Can we discuss the hypersexualization of trans people by this terf? “”“"open wound that serves as a FUCK HOLE”“”“”“
But then they accuse us of being predatory??? The only people I’ve heard use the term “fuck hole” in place of vagina are incels and rapists. And now terfs.
hello??? a transwomans surgery hole isnt a vagina
Neither is your skull, but you’d flip shit if I called that a fuck hole
