#jedi order
i might have an anakin meta cooking yall idkkk
Anakin: What did I teach you about disobeying the Order?
Ahsoka: How. You taught me how.
WAIT this is new, does this confirm Clone Wars flashbacks in the Obi-Wan Kenobi show???
As someone who grew up in a very communal place with lots of adults who were family or were family in everything but blood, let me tell you sitting on people’s laps and begging to be picked up even if you totally forgot their name is just part of being a young child.
So, my point is, Jedi younglings totally do that. Random master walking in the temple, well they look large enough to pick you up! You’re in the council chamber for some reason? There are 10 people to pick from (masters Yoda and yaddle are too small)!
And Wookie masters! The younglings would love them! Soft and really tall, the perfect person to carry you places.
gffa:
gffa:
I have a new hill to die on: Qui-Gon Jinn was totally all indulgent smiles when Obi-Wan said, “The Council will not go along with you, not this time.” about training Anakin and he says in the most hilariously self-assuredvoice, “You still have much to learn, Obi-Wan.” because that man knew exactly how they let him get away with everything but then the Council actually does turn him down and Qui-Gon Jinn, that JEDI MASTER, was AGHAST, he literally put his hands on his hips and was all GASP SHOCK SURPRISE THIS WAS COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED!?!?! HOW CAN YOU DO THIS TO ME!?!?! because he GENUINELY BELIEVED they were going to let him have his way, and like he’s not wrong to think that! he says the Sith are back after a literal thousand years and the Jedi are like “ehhhhh, I dunno” but then agree to look into it and start saying it’s a Sith mystery even before they actually uncover any new clues, Qui-Gon says, “I found Space Jesus in the desert, even though it breaks all the rules, you should test him.” and the Jedi are like, SIGH, sure, fine, bring him over here. Anyway, Qui-Gon Jinn routinely got away with murder because the Jedi Order routinely spoiled him and he 100% expected to continue being spoiled and was Shocked Pikachu Face when they put their foot down for once.
You. You get it. Qui-Gon Jinn’s energy is “asshole cat that the Jedi Council are rolling their eyes at when he scream-meows at 5am about how he wants you to watch him drink water from the bathroom, but they do it anyway, because as annoying as this shit is, they also love him and he’s hilarious”.
This post has some top tier tags:
HAPPY STAR WARS DAY! Spent my morning watching A New Hope while wearing my Sith Code shirt and getting New ink! Love that my tattoo artist is a HUGE Star Wars fan too
HAPPY STAR WARS DAY! Spent my morning watching A New Hope while wearing my Sith Code shirt and getting New ink! Love that my tattoo artist is a HUGE Star Wars fan too
-Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
-American Psychological Association (www(.)apa(.)org/ monitor/2012/07-08/ce-corner)
WITHOUT JUDGMENT
if the Jedi are raised in the Temple communally from early childhood then there has to be that Master or Knight who used to visit younglings and then, years later upon seeing them, go “OMG do you remember me??? The last time I saw you you were like this-” *lowers hand till their knee* “-high!” like an enthusiastic relative you don’t remember ever meeting but have to awkwardly go along with while they gush about how “cute you used to be, you used to do [thing you now find embarassing], remember that?”
One can take what is freely given, and nothing in what Obi-Wan says implies that things were otherwise. In fact, he’s being directly and explicitly paralleled with Leia in that scene, so unless you think the show is also condemning the Organas for taking in Leia (it’s not), then it’s also not condemning the Jedi for taking in Obi-Wan (or any other Jedi). Thinking on what could have been, the people they could have known and called family is wistful, certainly, but it doesn’t mean that they would ever trade their adoptive families for it or that they think their adoptive families were wrong for taking them in.
Imagine missing the explicit parallels being drawn in that scene that hard.
Look, here’s the thing about adoption:
Sometimes the biological family is simply not equipped to raise their child. There can be any number of reasons why, a question of substance misuse, domestic abuse, one partner not being in the picture, dire financial straights, disability of the child, or the parents just not being willing to raise the child themselves. Whatever the case is, even if it’s for completely selfish reasons, on some level the parents recognize, “I am not the right person for this child. They deserve better than me.” And so they give the child to someone else who iscapable of raising and providing for that child.
And yeah, it’s sad. It’s often tragic. It’s not ideal. Adoptees do sometimes wonder about the “what if’s“. (But sometimes they don’t; my husband is one of them. Aside from wanting to know their medical history so he can know his, it’s not something that ever really bothers him at all.) But the sad mystery does not negate the happiness and love that that child found with their new family.
That’s what adoption and found family is about. Smaller incomplete pieces coming together to form a whole.
Obi-Wan sometimes wonders about his birth family, true. But he was also immeasurablyhappy to be adopted by the Order, and considers them his “true” family, regardless of what blood says. As did pretty much all the Jedi in the Order.
Theyare an adopted family, even if they don’t follow the traditional nuclear model.
I don’t know why holding the Jedi accountable for being compliant in slavery is such a controversial thing. Again, I think the show has showed us that this is an accurate portrayal.
And while I see the clone’s positivity towards the Jedi being cited as an indication that they don’t think they’re being enslaved and have positive relations with the Jedi. Considering 1) it’s a small group of clones who act this way and 2) deserters exist, we know that’s not the case.
I clones were brainwashed and essentially taught to believe the Jedi were 100% good, and we begin to see cracks in this belief as the show progresses. Even Rex and Fives question this, and there are very many points in which we know there is an extent to Anakin and Rex’s relationship, as well as Anakin’s relationship with his men in general.
And consider that as abuse victims themselves, it’s not uncommon for the clones to justify everything bad that’s happening to them. These have been men abused from childhood and treated as property, their justification of their treatment and their tendency to excuse all that’s going on can absolutely be consequence of their abuse.
If we can understand that Anakin and Palpatine had an abusive relationship despite Palpatine treating Anakin with dignity and respect, then we can see how this applies to the clones and the Jedi.
Star Wars Reveals Anakin Led An Army Of Slaves To Attack The Jedi Temple
I really like this article mainly for the fact that it acknowledges the clones status as slaves under Anakin during Order 66, and places the majority of the blame for the genocide in the temple ON Anakin, as it should be.
I only disagree with the implication that they were only slaves when the chips were activated, because we know that’s not true
“There is a point at which pacifism, while seeming good, can serve the dark side…when pacifism becomes evil. If beings are capable of protecting others but refuse to take action to preserve their own sense of peace, they are being selfish. They place themselves and their sense of peace over the peace of others, and so they defend a philosophy instead of lives. In this way, they fail everyone.”
(Jedi Knight Ylenic It'kla to fellow Knight Aayla Secura)
“Pacifism for the sake of pacifism is the height of arrogant selfishness when that belief prevents you from acting to save others from harm.”
(Tycho Celchu)
I love these quotes so much, they show why the Jedi couldn’t just “stay neutral” during the war, why they couldn’t just let the Separatists do whatever they wanted, why they couldn’t just stand by and let everyone die to uphold their own philosophical ideals. They chose to fight to protect, rather than become passive in the face of tyranny.
maul is not like the antithesis of obi-wan but the negation of him. or rather specifically what obi-wan stands for (which is just the jedi order As An Institution). and the only way obi-wan is ever able to process the fatal contradictions that maul poses is to kill him, because you cannot acknowledge those contradictions (ie, the myth of meritocracy & cosmic justice) and FULLY internalise what they mean without giving up on the jedi order As An Institution and obi-wan is incapable of doing that. so he kills maul
girl help im experiencing shrimp emotions about the Jedi refugee bunker messages
It’s–these are the barest handful of survivors of a galaxy-wide genocide, and none of them will ever see another of their kind again. So they carve their names into the walls, just in case. Maybe one of your friends is still alive and you’ll never see each other again, will not, cannot, but the Force is with you still and maybe someday they’ll see your name and know you got this far. Maybe someday you’ll see theirs.
But then it’s not just the names, it’s–the sigils. The blessings. The Jedi maxims.
A smuggling ring that evacuates what should have been the next generation. These Force-sensitive children who will never, for their own safety, be raised among their own kind. Will not. Cannot.
Separate the lock from the key. Scatter the survivors, never in the same place, so that only one (one of these Jedi who take strength in connections, who were nevermeant to be alone) can be lost at a time. In case there’s an after. In case someday, somewhere, for someone, there’s an after.
The Archives were seared from existence. Surviving Jedi temples and outposts and scattered texts are reduced to rubble every day whenever they’re found and it would be madness to send a child looking anyway. So how do you pass on what little remains? How do you tell these frightened children who should have been Jedi what they had the right to know? How do you give them the culture that could have been theirs?
Scratches on concrete. No way to give them long messages, no time to try. This is the only chance you will ever have to tell them something, to make sure the core of who the Jedi were survive, to try to help them understand. To preserve.
What do you pass on?
Proverbs. Meditation mantras that double as survival advice. The sigil of your Order, all the comfort your kind have left. (The base of what will someday become the rebel starbird, rising from ashes, but they don’t know that yet, half of them will die before they see it.)
What do you pass on? Only what’s most important. Only what cannot ever be lost.
The Force will be with you always. Only when your eyes are closed can you truly see the Way. For light and life.
Andnames.You were never alone.
There’s always hope.
#op thank you for putting into words why this scene had me wailing gnashing my teeth beating my breast etc#because the jedi are fleeing#their home has been burnt#their family has been executed#those who are left are trying to disappear#they NEED to disappear if they want to stay alive for long#they want their names to disappear with them#any indication of who they are or how they could be found to vanish like so much smoke in the wind#and yet what do they do?#they carve their names into the walls of the rooms that bring them to the next safe point and the next#they take this little waystation where their family has passed before them#and where the younger siblings they never had the chance to meet will pass next#and they scream *FUCK YOU* to the empire#they take this empty little room that could be compromised#and instead of passing into obscurity and anonymity#two things they need to stay alive#instead they carve their names into the walls#*I was here* they say#*I am alive and you will never kill all of us*#*I am sorry if I missed you but I’ll be with you always* they say#*I’ll remember you in every dream and see you on every horizon*#*I am sorry I couldn’t meet you* they say#*but here are the things that are most important for you to know*#*here are the things that will always make you one of us no matter how far apart we are*#all across the walls are these names#*I am alive and you can never kill what makes us who we are*#FUCK it makes me ABSOLUTELY FERAL#i love the jedi#jedi loving hours are always#sw
These tags punched me in the teeth.
girl help im experiencing shrimp emotions about the Jedi refugee bunker messages
It’s–these are the barest handful of survivors of a galaxy-wide genocide, and none of them will ever see another of their kind again. So they carve their names into the walls, just in case. Maybe one of your friends is still alive and you’ll never see each other again, will not, cannot, but the Force is with you still and maybe someday they’ll see your name and know you got this far. Maybe someday you’ll see theirs.
But then it’s not just the names, it’s–the sigils. The blessings. The Jedi maxims.
A smuggling ring that evacuates what should have been the next generation. These Force-sensitive children who will never, for their own safety, be raised among their own kind. Will not. Cannot.
Separate the lock from the key. Scatter the survivors, never in the same place, so that only one (one of these Jedi who take strength in connections, who were nevermeant to be alone) can be lost at a time. In case there’s an after. In case someday, somewhere, for someone, there’s an after.
The Archives were seared from existence. Surviving Jedi temples and outposts and scattered texts are reduced to rubble every day whenever they’re found and it would be madness to send a child looking anyway. So how do you pass on what little remains? How do you tell these frightened children who should have been Jedi what they had the right to know? How do you give them the culture that could have been theirs?
Scratches on concrete. No way to give them long messages, no time to try. This is the only chance you will ever have to tell them something, to make sure the core of who the Jedi were survive, to try to help them understand. To preserve.
What do you pass on?
Proverbs. Meditation mantras that double as survival advice. The sigil of your Order, all the comfort your kind have left. (The base of what will someday become the rebel starbird, rising from ashes, but they don’t know that yet, half of them will die before they see it.)
What do you pass on? Only what’s most important. Only what cannot ever be lost.
The Force will be with you always. Only when your eyes are closed can you truly see the Way. For light and life.
Andnames.You were never alone.
There’s always hope.
Don’t worry, they’ll release a Chiss Jedi any moment now and my theory will be proven right
gffa:
I cannot believe this show forced me to listen to Obi-Wan say Quinlan’s name with the context from this episode of how both he and Leia want to go home. They wonder about their biological families, wish that they knew more about them, but when the gut-punch moment comes, it’s their adoptive family they want to go back to. “I want to go home.” “Quinlan.” I am on the FLOOR because these two narrative parallels miss their adoptive families and, while Leia may be able to go back to hers for awhile, she’s going to end up just like Obi-Wan, who would give anything to see his dead family again, I am IN PAIN.
more unsettling jedi physicality pls
jedi who do three point landings from eight floors up and make the earth shake. jedi who seem like they move silently because they can blur just the edges of your awareness so you never hear them coming. jedi who move as fast and sudden as a predator going in for the kill and they can be on you before you can blink. jedi who can hide underwater for almost an hour breathing the force instead of air. jedi who always catch things before they hit the floor almost like they knew it was going to fall
i just think that if you can draw on the force at the heart of the universe to enhance your physical capabilities, you should get to be a little scary about it
the thing about jedi is that they grow up surrounded by other jedi, so i think younger padawans must forget how this looks to other people all the time, and older jedi probably have to curb it a little in polite society, which gives you potential great moments where they suddenly show what they can reallydo
gffa:
Every single episode of Obi-Wan Kenobi has had the Inquisitors using the Jedi’s compassion against them, very deliberately. That’s how they find Nari in the saloon on Tatooine, who only reveals himself to protect the owner for a secondtime. That’s how Reva lures Obi-Wan out of hiding. Vader kills villagers as he marches through the town, not because he’s even looking for information, but just purely because he knows Obi-Wan is there and it hurts him, it will draw him out.
Meanwhile, Reva’s speech on Tatooine says, “The Jedi are cowards. They failed you, abandoned you. There is no point in protecting them. They would not do the same for you.”
This is what Star Wars does. It uses lies and propaganda and manipulation, it says one thing about the Jedi, and then shows you how they really are, that Star Wars is and always has been built on unreliable narrators and outright lies expressed by characters that aren’t directly challenged because that’s the point. The galaxy just accepted those lies because it was easier than standing up for the right thing!
The Jedi died to protect innocent people in the war, they and their children died when the clones were mind-controlled into killing them, they were trying to stop a Sith Lord, not seize power for themselves, they were trying to protect the people of Tatooine, they abandoned you because they’re all dead now. They all died protecting someone, we see that in the opening Order 66 montage, where a Jedi Knight fiercely protects the children, we see it in the opening of The Bad Batch, where Depa dies to protect Caleb’s life, we see it in Jedi: Fallen Order where Tapal dies to protect Cal’s life, we see it in The Book of Boba Fett where several Jedi die to protect Grogu’s life.
Star Wars characters will tell the audience one thing, because the characters have their own agenda within the narration, and then it will contrast that with showing us what the Jedi actually say and do, like the level of commitment to unreliable narrators and propaganda in this franchise is actually really, really good, because goddamn that’s a lesson we could all stand to remember when we look around the world today and are on social media where reactions and outrage and misinformation spread far faster than actually checking our sources.
One thing I wish Star Wars media would do more is focus less on the Force as a “magic superpower plot device” and more on the Force as “metaphysical power that connects all life.”
Like, it could go a long way towards explaining the radical differences between Jedi and Sith. Like, the more you access the Force, the more you become aware of that deep spiritual connection to all things. Everything is one. Separation is an illusion.
For Jedi, that provides some sort of enlightenment, and bolsters their ideas of pacifism, as using the Force forces them to develop empathy. All things are one, or at least connected, so hurting others doesn’t make sense as you’re ultimately hurting yourself as well. But for Sith, who are, by their very definition, selfish, it creates a self-defeating spiral of pain and excuses. As they hurt more people with the Force they hurt themselves as well, but they excuse it away and the cycle just keeps repeating.
I dunno. I just think you could do more with a all-powerful all-connecting energy than “superpower magic”.
I’m sure the jedi are better equipped with cultural sensitivity than… most of fandom but still I imagine they’d find our institutionalized schools where teachers have hundreds of students who mostly learn by sitting at desks all day getting lectured just as strange as we do their lack of single primary caregiver who is idealy a biological parent
Flavors of jedi romanticism:
- Comrades in arms
- That Ghibli quote: “Rather, I want to portray a slightly different relationship, one where the two mutually inspire each other to live; if I’m able to, then perhaps I’ll be closer to portraying a true expression of love.”
- Courtly love
Young Jedi are probably briefed on force scepticism before they go out into the world but it wouldn’t surprise me if clone education didn’t bother to cover that. They learn about force abilities as a fact of life, get deployed and witness it from the jedi command, and then at some point maybe step into a bar somewhere and meet some civilian who swears up and down that the force is a myth and jedi are frauds. Like meeting a flat-earther when you never knew there was such a thing
I can’t get over the continued thematic follow-through of this idea that Jedi aren’t truly Jedi unless they’re standing up in defense of the innocent and helpless, they have to be active in the galaxy, they haveto spread kindness and compassion wherever they go, it’s an uncontrollable urge, it’s an itch,“They cannot help it.“
And also the idea that it’s FORCE ITSELF that is whispering to them, calling them back, calling them home, telling them to take up their swords again, reach out in faith and find that the Light never left you, it’s still inside you and it needs you because the galaxy is so so dark and bleak and hopeless and there’s so much evil everywhere and the galaxy needs them to stand up and step out of the shadows and into the light so that they can reignite people’s hope.
It’s the pauses of awe and wonder in even the most miserable and selfish of underworld denizens because that’s a Jedi, the Jedi are back, the Jedi are here, everything will be okay now.
It’s F knighting herself, cutting her own padawan braid and proudly declaring she is a Jedi to save a frightened exploited village bride.
It’s Kanan igniting his saber for the first time in years to protect his future padawan and a clutch of Wookie slaves and the rattled composure in the Imperials when they realize, “Holy shit that’s a Jedi.“
It’s Cal and Cere deciding they were done hiding, done running from the Empire, they were going to fight back, and Saw gleefully pointing to them to inspire his band of Rebels.
It’s Obi-Wan unburying his lightsaber even after being so hopeless and broken and full of guilt and self-blame because people still need him, he’s the only one they can trust.
The whole Dark Times as a sloooooowly turning eucatastrophe, tiny lights of hope struggling to hold back the darkness long enough. Holding out. Buying time until the twin suns can rise. Until Luke and Leia and the destruction of the Death Star and the death of the Emperor and the glorious return of light to the galaxy.
I love it.