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I MET YOU ON LJ: A Fandom PodcastEpisode #059: In Shining ArmorPolish your lance! (Heh.) In ye olde

I MET YOU ON LJ: A Fandom Podcast

Episode #059: In Shining Armor

Polish your lance! (Heh.) In ye olde penultimate episode of IMYOLJ, Maggie and V discuss all things knight-in-shining-armor, especially Heath Ledger in A Knight’s Tale, Dev Patel and his fancy chest in The Green Knight, and the travesty that is the DCOM Avalon High. Plus, why knights are totally relevant to fandom and fanfiction, and Maggie sings an original song from high school that totally doesn’t rip off Enrique Iglesias’ “Hero.”

This Episode Covers…

fandom  • fanfiction • maggie had covid (she’s fine don’t worry) • station eleven (2021) • elliott smith • jon brion • 2000s bubblegum pop • jojo • aladdin (1992) • bob saget • full house (1987-1995) • knights • kate and leopold (2001) • honor, pride, nobility, and chivalry • arthurian legend • the green knight (2021) • dev patel • erin kellyman • joel edgerton should have gotten an hj • barry keoghan is always a little creepy • a knight’s tale (2001) • heath ledger • shannyn sossamon • warpaint • alan tudyk • paul bettany • merlin (2008-2012) but mostly merlin fandom • merthur • the king (2019) • avalon high (2010) • avalon high by meg cabot (a completely different thing) • monty python and the holy grail (1975) • jousting is so stupid! • the cw (2006-2022)   

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It’s Friday and what should be a quiet afternoon is getting quite noisy.

-Legendary comic artist/writer Neal Adams passed away yesterday. Adams co-created Green Lantern John Stewart, Batman nemesis Ra’s-Al Ghul and Man-Bat.

He was also a strong advocate for creators rights and was one of the front leaders and secure credit recognition and pensions for Superman creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

-BATWOMAN has fought her last battle on the CW. The show has been axed after 3 seasons.

There was more behind-the-scenes drama on the series than in front of the camera. S1 saw the departure of series star Ruby Rose. At the time of their leaving the show, Rose gave being allergic to the costume as the rationale for leaving. Last year, Rose admitted that they left the show due it being a “toxic workplace” alleging unsafe working conditions to led to their accident requiring surgery and being pressured to return to the show while still recovering. Rose also accused costar Dougray Scott, who played Batwoman’s father, of bullying women on set and detailed a run in with costar Camrus Johnson (Luke Fox/Batwing) who Rose says got on their case for returning to set late from a doctor’s appointment.

Scott disputes that he was abusive on set, WB-TV backed him up during their investigation and even said it was Rose who had multiple complaints lodged against them.

Johnson had this to say at the time.

Things were quiet after new star Javicia Leslie took up the cowl, but it was too late.

-Also gone is LEGENDS OF TOMORROW.

-Either the continuing Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trial is taking up everyone’s attention or people don’t care about THE WALKING DEAD anymore. Melissa MacBride has existed the planned Carol and Darryl spinoff show.

Her team’s statement.

“Melissa McBride has given life to one of the most interesting, real, human and popular characters in The Walking Dead Universe. Unfortunately, she is no longer able to participate in the previously announced spinoff focused on the Daryl Dixon and Carol Peletier characters, which will be set and filmed in Europe this summer and premiere next year. Relocating to Europe became logistically untenable for Melissa at this time. We know fans will be disappointed by this news, but The Walking Dead Universe continues to grow and expand in interesting ways and we very much hope to see Carol again in the near future,” AMC said in a statement Wednesday.

For some reason fans have decided to blame Norman Reedus for her departure which lead Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Negan) to defend his pal.

Why must you all have Papa Winchester yell at you? You know a Winchester loves nothing more than to create Twitter drama (:: eyes Jared Padalecki::)

-Marvel gives a slight twist to their upcoming slap, swapping out dates for the CAPTAIN MARVEL sequel, THE MARVELS, for ANT-MAN & THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA.

THE MARVELS (with Tom Hiddleston’s rumoured fiancee, Zawe Ashton joining)

previously held a release date of Feb. 17, 2023 but is now moving to July 28, 2023.

ANT-MAN & THE WASP (with newcomer Jonathan Majors, late of LOKI)takes on the Feb. 17th slate.

-Someone who doesn’t have to worry about day and dates is director Jon Watts (SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME) who has exited the FANTASTIC FOUR reboot.

the cw having ass all money does explain a lot tho

I want to begin this letter by telling you about the magic of Brett Dier.  He took a character – built from the beginning with secrets and moral lapses – and made him so likable, so funny, so sincere in all the right ways, that most of our writers’ room became #teammichael by the end of the first season.  And I honestly don’t think I’ll ever love a moment on our show as much as I loved Michael’s vows to Jane…  Which is to say, this was a devastating episode for us to write.

It was also a decision made very early on, when I thought about our story as a whole.  And even in season one, I knew it would be a hard thing to actually do, which is why there was a line (which many of you noticed) about how Michael would never stop loving Jane.  And the Narrator confirmed, “For as long as Michael lived, until he drew his very last breath, he never did.”  Honestly, I put that line into the script at the last minute to hold our feet to the fire, to make sure we went through with it.  Because even back then, the writers could all see the magic of Jane and Michael together.  Not to mention Rogelio and Michael!    

The other reason I put that line in the script was to prepare you… a little.  If the writers and actors loved Michael so much, then I knew it would be devastating for the fans.  So then, the only surprise we had left, was when…

And again – that goes back to the magic of Brett Dier.  Originally, I thought Michael would die earlier.  But Brett is such an incredible actor – he gave us such great comedy and drama and first-rate exposition delivery (!), often all in one scene.  And he and Gina… well, there’s that word again – magic.  So, we changed some things in the writers’ room.  Jane and Michael got married.  They had sex. They moved into their first home. And I’m so glad we did that and I’m so glad all those firsts for Jane were with Michael.  But this is a telenovela, as we so frequently remind you.  And we are only at our midpoint.

You’ll recall, back in the pilot, Jane was on a path.  Things were mapped out.  And then she was accidentally artificially inseminated and everything changed.  Well now, everything is changing again.  How does our romance-loving hero move on, how does she get back the light and the hope…?

Well, it’s certainly not quick.  And that’s why we’re now three years later in our story.  We’ll be flashing back to those three years and filling in gaps, but mining emotions realistically is something we work hard on and we knew the immediate pain of that loss would overwhelm our storytelling.  After talking to grief counselors, this felt like the right time to reenter Jane’s journey.  She’ll always feel Michael’s absence (and trust me, we will too), but it opens up our storytelling in new and exciting ways, while allowing for the light and bright Jane world that we love to write.  

Which brings me to something I feel really badly about. The timing.  I’ve had so many tweets lately about how Jane is a bright spot these days. And I know you just watched a gut punch of an episode.  So, I just wanted to reassure you that Jane’s optimism will rise up.

Thank you guys so much for watching the show, for caring so passionately, and for going on our journey. And thank you so much to Brett. For his talent.  His passion.  His humor on set.  Michael will be missed in Jane’s world, just as Brett is already missed in ours.  

With love,

Jennie Urman

Celebrate ‪Jane The Virgin‬’s renewal with the latest full episodes for FREE: on.cwtv.com/JTV1

CelebrateJane The Virgin’s renewal with the latest full episodes for FREE: on.cwtv.com/JTV14tb


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Get ready for a new Jane The Virgin TONIGHT with Justin Baldoni during his Live Video Q&A on his


Get ready for a new Jane The Virgin TONIGHT with Justin Baldoni during his Live Video Q&A on his Facebook page: facebook.com/justinbaldoni


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Join Justin Baldoni for a Live Video Q&A on his Facebook page MONDAY before a new Jane The Virgi

Join Justin Baldoni for a Live Video Q&A on his Facebook page MONDAY before a new Jane The Virgin: facebook.com/justinbaldoni


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Does Rogelio have a stalker problem? Find out on the latest episode of‪ Jane The Virgin‬ for free no

Does Rogelio have a stalker problem? Find out on the latest episode of‪ Jane The Virgin‬ for free now, no login required: on.cwtv.com/JTV13tb


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Jane The Virgin is new TONIGHT at 9/8c on The CW! 

Jane The Virgin is new TONIGHT at 9/8c on The CW! 


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Jane lets Rogelio have a Matelio Day on a new Jane The Virgin TONIGHT at 9/8c.

Jane lets Rogelio have a Matelio Day on a new Jane The Virgin TONIGHT at 9/8c.


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Jane falls right back into the dating scene on a new ‪‎Jane The Virgin‬ TONIGHT at 9/8c!

Jane falls right back into the dating scene on a new ‪‎Jane The Virgin‬ TONIGHT at 9/8c!


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See why Monday nights are comedy gold with new episodes of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and ‪‎Jane The Virgin

See why Monday nights are comedy gold with new episodes of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and ‪‎Jane The Virgin‬, starting at 8/7c on The CW.


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Don’t even think about going to bed early! ‪‎Jane The Virgin‬ returns TONIGHT at 9/8c on The CW!

Don’t even think about going to bed early! ‪‎Jane The Virgin‬ returns TONIGHT at 9/8c on The CW!


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Secrets of the De La Vega family will be revealed when ‪‎Jane The Virgin ‬returns in just 3 DAYS!

Secrets of the De La Vega family will be revealed when ‪‎Jane The Virgin ‬returns in just 3 DAYS!


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The always fabulous Gina Rodriguez returns with new episodes of Jane The Virgin‬ Monday, January 25 at 9/8c on The CW!

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