Like in the Church of the Starry Children we are them? Obviously ‘starry children’ is a reference to Starkid and is just another neat fourth wall break but I kept thinking about who they could be.
Roman talks about how the Starry Children are “gone but through us they live on”. Now there’s a long list of potential candidates in Hatchetfield of things that could be 'gone’ like Miss Holloway’s 3 girls, the kids Willabella killed and so many more so I decided to look into the timings of the church. Now it’s said a few times that it’s the 75th annual Honey Festival in Honey Queen and based on the fact that the season takes place in the summer of 2020 that would place the first one taking place in summer 1945 (which is very interesting considering the uh… nuclear history of Hatchetfield when the US bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945). Anyways this date allowed me to eliminate many candidates from the roster. Nearly all Hatchetfield events that we’re aware of take place post-2004 (shoutout to 2005) so as a result we’d be dealing with events that only took place prior to 1945.
Now Miss Holloway is somewhat of an anomaly here based on her whole immortal schtick we don’t actually know how old she is and therefore when these girls were around. However, based on the fact that it’s the Church of the Starry Children and not just 'girls’ and also Miss Holloway’s 80s aesthetic kinda tying her to around the late 1900s (probably like the 1960/70s at the EARLIEST) I felt inclined to remove her and the girls.
Now there was the possibility of the kids whose blood Willabella used to write the Black Book (they made some stunning illustrations Bella I have to hand it to you) but I was also reluctant to think it was them for a number of reasons. Willabella was executed in 1824 meaning that these children were likely killed (if they were even killed it’s not confirmed but knowing the lords in black they probably were) prior to that date meaning that the first sacrifice didn’t take place until over 120 years later. Now of course it’s possible that the church existed before they started sacrificing women (Sheila and Mr Young got married in 1920 after all) but there is another factor that must be taken into account when thinking about these children.
They’re the children of the Hatchet Men.
We know from what Sheila said that the Hatchet Men and the church don’t get along very well (read: the Hatchet Men executed the entire church) and so the fact that the church would be set up in honour of the children of their sworn enemies seems very unlikely.
So as a result there was not really any known people in Hatchetfield who are “gone” that would really fit the bill of the Church. So then I ended up going back to general concepts in Hatchetfield and thinking about things that were gone during Nightmare Time and it was soon very obvious. One thing that was commonplace in TGWDLM and BF that hadn’t translated over to Nightmare Time was the audience and the audience interaction. In both TGWDLM and BF characters interact with the audience in some way and of course they can’t do that in NMT. So when you combine that fact with the fact that they’re called the “starry children” a DIRECT reference to Starkid it seems entirely likely that we are the Starry Children. Cos we’re gone now but through Nightmare Time, Hatchetfield and the actors continuing to tell us these stories even when we can’t physically be there…
Then Mariah tweeted THIS and you know I had to get all over that because?? HELLO
Anyways here is what out of her tweets I think could potentially be the hints:
This was posted to both her twitter and her instagram so I feel like it’s teasing a possible Alice return. Which doesn’t seem all that unlikely considering we’re getting a Ziggs story??
Mariah used the coffee emoji and has also posted the coffee cup on her instagram story. Surely that’s gotta be teasing a Zoey return?
This one from a little while ago isn’t as obvious and could possibly just be a reference to Matt Dahan’s project Mariah has said in a zoom with some fans that she can’t imagine Melissa with brown hair (this feels like more of a stretch tho)
Mariah tweeted this completely out of context and my evil Webby loving brain can’t help but think it could be a reference to her (post about evil Webby here)
And this one. The word choice seems so deliberate you know? I can’t help but feel like we’re getting Grace. Or it could be another Alice hint!!
I think that there aren’t spaces between the words much like the smaller letters but the colours break up each clue! So that would mean that we go to maret which would give us abst_ _ence c_ _p. The first word is clearly abstinence but the second one could be camp or CCRP. However based on the imagery I think camp is more likely. Also Mariah replied this lol which i’m taking as 2.
Okay so the only words that end with aben are graben and paraben so green is almost definitely Mare meaning that so far they are following the lords in black colour scheme and appearance order: Pokey/Blue, Wiggly/Green, Blinky/Purple
Guys these clues sounds like Webby’s hints to Hannah!! Like “bad blood, cross, black and white”, “Don’t do it, two doors not one”, “Bad place, black and white” sounds very much like “honey queen, perky’s buds”
Okay so obviously by now we know they’re spelling Nightmare Time but I think they’re going to end up spelling Nightmare Time Season 2. Because the colour schemes they’re currently following is the colours of the Lords in Black and there are 5 of them and you get that if you split it:
Night
Mare
Time
Season
2
As well as this the amount of letters lines up with who’s posting it
Because there are 13 letters left in that sentence and there is 9 actors remaining. However if you anticipate Nick posting one, Paul Gabriel posting one, Matt maybe posting one and then announcing Ziggs’ actor who posts one and then finishing back on the Starkid account it’d line up with 13 because I can’t see another way of them having all of them posting one.
But I do think each word/row is a different colour as well as being accompanied with a different quote from the Nightmare Time theme and a different emoji as Curt and Corey’s have different captions to everyone else.
It’s partially because of that that I think Curt’s post is the M in Mare rather than in time because Curt’s lyric of “are you fast enough” appears before Corey’s “the timer is ticking down” in the theme song.
The Hatchetfield Honey Festival. A Mariah character is crowned the honey queen… potentially Miss T with honey herself Zoey??
Perky’s buds/farm imagery:
Perky sounds like a nickname probably given to the Perkin’s sisters in high school. Buds could be weed. Meaning it’s potentially about Emma’s weed farm
The Hatchet in the log-2 possibilities
Number 1- The Hatchet Men and the tree-people more info on the Hatchetfield witch trials and such
Number 2 (more likely)- Lumberaxe the mad woodsman who was mentioned alongside Chumby and Willabella in the Hatchetfield Ape-Man
Also Mariah and I had this interaction so…
MAJOR props to @hatchetfieldtheories cos them lining up the images like that is a lifesaver for my brain
So as you may or may not have seen last week Matt Lang confirmed the Hatchetfield timeline split. (you can see the clip here).
So I thought it was about time I updated my timeline diagram for Nightmare Time 2 (and also just general changes I’ve made in my own head since I last made it). Anyways here’s timeline theory 4.0.
So as we all know NMT2 takes place on one singular timeline so I decided to sit down and take a guess at the order of events. I spent literal hours reading through the scripts to make this lol
I think Casey might be on of Miss Holloway’s three girls…
Okay so on one of her streams recently Mariah said this (I’ve edited out the game dialogue bits in-between)
And it got me thinking…
We’ve all pretty much guessed for a year that the 80s pop star on Casey’s shirt was Miss Holloway but NMT2 all but confirmed it… “the whole world has FORGOTTEN”. The pop star is one of Miss Holloway’s old personas!!!!
I (and I’m sure everyone) just assumed this was an “oh it’s been a while since the 80s lost to time” sort of thing BUT NO!! THEY’VE ACTUALLY FORGOTTEN HER. So we have such a clear connection between Miss Holloway and Casey already and then I kept thinking about what Mariah said.
Casey is dead right?? She got buried by the Hatchet Men meaning she had the gift and she was killed for it. That sure as hell sounds like someone who Miss Holloway couldn’t save right?? And to add onto this Mariah played one of the girls in the 3-girl creature!! Add that to the fact that Casey was the only tree-person named and that Nick is discussing her character with Mariah (he wouldn’t do that for a one-off background character) I think it’s very likely we’re gonna be seeing Miss Casey again and it’s gonna be HEARTBREAKING
