≫ I originally made this edit to feature in my charlastor fanfiction: Soul Switched: Ch. 10 but I began the story long before Charlie’s official name & design change so this is what I worked with (*^_^*)
≫ I’ve stared at this edit for over four hours so I can’t remember how sore it is on the eyes therefore my apologies in advance (ｰ ｰ;)
I woke up way later than planned today, so I missed the big reveal and actually pretty glad I did. Meant I was able to live in a dying fantasy just a little bit longer.
≫ I’ll try to make this quick, so here we’ll review everything including the following, most notable, changes:
• microphone
• white
• pants
• w h i t e
Troυѕerѕ:
As I predicted, she changed Alastor’s pants to black after Charlie Morningstar’s recent all red outfit, and it looks good It’s a simple accent and easily goes with the rest of the ensemble.
Мoυтн:
His teeth are now shaped slightly different, whereas they used to protected out of his gums individually, they now sort of blend together more. I do like this shape better, they really give Alastor this even more flashy, yet suave, type of essence, you know?
If you look closely, his tongue has changed from grey to red. I personally liked it grey better, as it looked less human on him, but it still works (I also hope his gums are still black as Viv once stated). In a small fraction of frames in the pilot, his tongue is shown as red, which has always confused me; maybe it’s an error idk. But anyway, now it’s officially red.
Gloveѕ:
Alastor has lost the classic, spotted-knuckle pads we used to see on his gloves, which were cannon. Now, I’m not so sure—that may have changed in his new design. Those could be his actual hands now, it’s too soon to say until Vivzie decides to specify otherwise.
Oυтғιт:
Idek where to start.
His sleeves are the same color, but his torso changed. The pinstripes are still the same color, but his chest is a lot brighter now. Is he wearing a vest now??? If so, the colors are clashing horribly with how the sleeves are darker. If it’s still a jacket, then call a new tailor it looks like his went colorblind. But his collar is also colored the same as his sleeves—as it would when someone wears a vest. Even though I hate the new changes rn, idk what’s up because Charlie’s new look is still very stylish and fashionable ✨
But…this? The white doesn’t match his outfit, and not only that, it’s the only trimming on his clothes colored that way, so it’s incredibly out of place. For the sake of styling….I hope it’s a vest, because that would make one funky overcoat O.o
Now, for all us tail lovers, not to worry! There’s still plenty of room for Alastor to hide a fluffy deer tail under that jacket/waistcoat thingy I assure you so we must not lose hope!! (〃ω〃)
Mιcropнone:
Yes, Viv did make an attempt to change his inner microphone from a pastel to white so something would coordinate with the new white trim (and the coffee cup, so as long as he always has a drink with him there is still hope), though he doesn’t carry it half of the time anyway, so that new hem will be standing out a lot all by itself but….yeah. The mic also lost one of its rims, now it only carries one. I almost overlooked that, so despite liking the previous style, it’s not a big deal. I still want to know if she made the staff longer or not, but it’s tucked out of sight here, so we still have yet to find that out.
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Now I’m not going to get into crap like if stuff suits their personas or character/OOC analysis, this is just a fashion overview. It seems Vivzie traded Alastor’s suit/jacket/vest flaps for white so she could give his old darkened ones away to Charlie Morningstar’s new pantsuit that was copy and pasted, switched both of their pant’s colors (black≠red), while using white on Alastor in a way to almost compliment Charlie’s complexion so we don’t get epilepsy when they’re next to each other…? Idk.
Honestly, not even worried about that anymore. It looks like she still got too many complaints about too much red in the pilot—that’s been happening since the thing aired, but I personally always liked the wild pink and red neon schemes up until she tried to pull a switcharoo with Alastor & Charlie, then tried to overcompensate his style to make up for the new changes so they wouldn’t ‘twin.’
But FR tho, ngl at this point Alastor’s old outfit would have looked more tolerable beside Charlie’s new one more than this updated suit. I mean it’s better than looking at an outfit that doesn’t even match by itself, for Hell’s sake it looks like he’s wearing patchwork I can’t stand that small-itty-bitty-isolated WHITE, I’d rather have to see more black on him than that color.
And since black was already and still is his primary monochrome accent, while Charlie’s is now white (instead of her EX. black trousers & suspenders), adding her new monochrome accent to Alastor’s outfit as well, on TOP of all the other shades he is already displaying somehow makes them clash with each other further yet. I’m not kidding, now it looks like Alastor is trying to keep up with Charlie
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All I can say before leaving is this—thank god Viv didn’t go into fashion
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~What do you guys think of all the new changes?
~What do you hope to see in all of the other character’s updated appearances??
Okay so I slept on it last night and maybe—just mAyBe—I’d be okay with black trimmed sleeves instead of red, the change of the design on his shirt underneath, perhaps a shorter collar, or maybe slightly bigger antlers, but those are all the changes I can think of rn that I’d be able to cope with.
I guess I can see Viv changing his pants to black now that Charlie is the one with the full red on red pant suit—a solid red pantsuit…I feel like trading their pant colors is the only thing that’s going to keep viewers from going blind without making any other major changes to Alastor at this point.
But tbh other than Alastor’s obv perfection, I’ve always wished his staff was a little bit longer idk it always just seemed pretty short for his height? If his eyes ever changed like Charlie’s I’ll flip a mother fucking table Ik ppl are sick of red on red and heard complaints about them but I just love those crazed insanely haunting tones that also can hold this soft glow to them in his gaze just gAH LOVE IT
But on another thought, what if he was given a full sized rack?? NOT THAT RACK YOU PERVS!! But not a cartoonish one like those itty bitty twig branches we see growing in the art or comics or whatev but what about realistic antlers you’d see on a six pointer?
Like this……
Art credit: @yourseaola Twitter
(Ngl that is pretty attractive….)
Idk why everyone keeps saying they wanna know what he looks like with a mustache but I’d rather drink toilet cleaner so y’all just pls don’t jinx it and make an edit until then
What do you all think Alastor’s new look will be???
People still believing Vaggie died in 2014. Viv confirmed Vaggie lies about when she died, guys. Charlie and Vaggie have apparently been together since Charlies high-school years which were 100+ years ago..
WHEN THE FRICK FRACKITY FRACK DID THIS FRICKING HAPPEN?!?
Why would you use your Twitter to haunt me for 7 days until take off while I get to sit here and wait in agony hoping he doesn’t change even though he is going to change hence the whole point of release for his new design why couldn’t you just rip it off like a bandaid like for Charlie Morningstar we already knew this was coming anyway because you already made it clear we were going to meet the rest of the cast again do not play mind games with the fandom like this I am not freaking out yOu aRE FREAKING OUT IM PERFECTLY CALM OKAY
Tweets from Viv and the first is referring to Charlie’s last name changing to Morningstar
Because nothing says classic like copying another name from the same character of another hit show
Dude, Morningstar has ALWAYS been a part of Lucifer’s name. Wayyyyyy before the tv show even existed. She’s not copying from Lucifer; she’s simply using the actual Biblical name.
Lucifer literally means “morning star,” ffs x3
Even if Lucifer was always Latin for morning star, that title already has a huge rep for the Lucifer series as is. Either way, it’s worn out by now, and is a really unoriginal surname in these circumstances. It’s one thing to recycle an overused name for the main character your own take of said popular trope (in this case, religious fiction), and it’s another matter entirely to go out of your way to change long standing character’s current name to it.
It’s an extremely cliche move, puts the Hazbin franchise one step closer to mainstream, and their old surname Magne was much more classy, yet simple, translating to ‘all mighty/warrior’ in ancient Norse, and ‘great’ in French. I don’t have a problem if people like how Charlie Morningstar sounds, but there’s nothing at all classic about it anymore, just disappointing to see.
Okay, so LOTS of controversial talk here so I’ll break it down:
She’s still adorable, but somehow went from Disney Princess to Hilary Clinton wannabe
Major concerns of her color scheme washing out the rest of the main cast now that she’s resembling a certain someone.
Surname change is a warning for threats of mainstream influence?
Is A24 behind this???
So I’m still loving the hair, this hairstyle has actually already made an appearance in the pilot once on Charlie, with the exception of two, instead of three, hair bands now being used—and we also get to enjoy that ‘Princess Jasmine’ feel
Eye Color
Good news: She appears to stand more apart from her parents now.
Bad news: She blends in more with the rest of the demons in hell, and her more humane character is no longer emphasized.
As you can see, her new lenses are designed to be introverted to those of her full demonic form. While it makes perfect sense, unfortunately, angry Charlie will not have its full potential of visual effect with such a small contrast between the two ‘differential’ appearances now ♀️
Outfit
Now, someone brought up a very interesting point how this choice of fashion could have brought a character arc if Charlie’s style had slowly evolved through out the progressing show of how Alastor was beginning to rub off on her. I’m not going to lie, I would have like to see that, but it’s been announced this is her new design.
If, I’m being honest here, though, I really do enjoy Vivzie’s unique and colorful backdrops and style for Hazbin Hotel, but all of her character’s very similar aesthetics have always bugged me a little, with Alastor’s bold choice of attire always standing out as an exception………though that does not seem to be the case anymore, which is pretty disappointing. If Alastor did not exist (Hell forbid), fine whatever, I probably wouldn’t mind her new look so much.
But. He. D O E S.
(She’s draining the death out of the poor lad, my poor baby T-T)
Here, we now can tell Charlie has gained a piercing, red glowing gaze, a long collar that reaches her chin, old fashioned shoulder pads, and a bright, matching, blood red suit….not at all familiar (that untucked shirt tho….for the love of Satan pls tuck it in I-I can’t—). Not only is her new look going to take away her own originality, but sadly, Alastor’s as well. Just walking into the same room as him is going to give the viewers epilepsy.
In her first official design, Charlie’s coral-colored blazer captured her bubbly persona well and highlighted her blushing cheeks on her cheery expressions, while her black slacks kept her color scheme at bay and provided her outfit with the necessary accent for an adorably butch touch. While her before and after are both business savvy, she now appears much more professional and mature in her relaxed, yet composed, position than she really is.
As for CharlieMorningstar….. ᴿᴱᴬᴸᴸᵞ?
Like if Vivzie didn’t like her old surname, fine, whatever, but…..wow, okay. Lucifer Magne, and Charlie Magne, were both simple, yet classy, titles. Magne translates to Norse meaning all mightyorwarrior.Morningstar is the Latin translation for Lucifer. So, yes, in a nutshell, Lucifer’s full name is going to mean ‘Morningstar Morningstar.’ Charlie Morningstar, will now be tied closer to her father’s reputation, both literally and figuratively.
Вυт wнy Мornιngѕтar?
This is the exact same name belonging to Lucifer Morningstar in the hit series Lucifer on Netflix. We see multiple appearances of ‘Lucifer’ in modern religious fiction such as Supernatural,Good Omens, etc etc. but this obviously isn’t a regular fannon thing; this name exclusively belongs to the original Netflix main character of that franchise. So why trade in a perfectly good surname and copy it??
This reason still remains unclear, as this new artwork of Charlie Morningstar was just announced on Twitter mere hours ago. Fans are already speculating that the choice suspiciously sounds like A24, despite Vivzie being quite excited about these new changes for the Princess of Hell.
One theory suggests more popularity for the show by conforming to the bigger public by appealing to the mainstream masses of audience, another claims that forcing Vivzie to change Charlie’s name and design will classify her as a ‘new’ character in copyright complications, this way she will no longer have rights to her if A24 owns the main protagonist of Hazbin Hotel. This would give them more control and rights to the franchise in a way, which would be pretty terrible.
Thankfully, this seems incorrect.
I really do hope that’s the last ‘major’ change though, because the fandom has already taken a huge blow last October when Gabe was outright fired from Alastor’s singing role, and Elsie was replaced for Charlie’s singing as well for more reasons due to claims of ‘contracting’ purposes, which again, were unknown, until I was able to dig up less popular information many are not aware of thanks to @hellozanybouqetshark , tysm for bringing this to my attention!
Edit:
This user claimed A24 was reputable for being very creator friendly, and indeed, that is fortunately correct.
It turns out the real reason the half the main cast was cut— including Michael Kovich (Angel Dust), Gabriel C. Brown (Alastor’s singing VA), Elsie Lovelock (Charlie’s singing VA), Krystal LaPorte (Cherri Bomb), Michelle Marie (Niffty), and Josh Tomar (Tom Trench) —was because Vivziepop actually made another contract with Bento Box Animation around the same time everyone got the slip. BBA is a production company that was bought out by Fox Entertainment in the summer of 2019.
Well, there you have it, she signed through a union agency through Bento Box Animation that may have been mandatory under their terms for contracting. Signing with an agency like the SAG strictly requires companies not to affiliate with non members like indie artists.
Conclusion:
It seems all of Charlie’s changes were strictly Vivzie’s own choice, including her new name Charlie Morningstar, which is sure to capture the attention of future fans from other similar fandoms that include biblical lore, primarily Lucifer,justin time for the upcoming second debut of the Hazbin Hotel series (date unknown).
Vivzie had personally already gotten terrible harassment and threats in emails and DMs, etc. from calls that weren’t her own a couple months ago, so on top of seeing her own cast butchered, she got to be the one to take the heat from thousands of angry rampaging fans just overnight. So, please, even if you hate some changes with a burning passion, or don’t really care, or maybe like it, don’t attack Vivziepop, last year was a nightmare for her :(
