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‘In the nicest, snotty uncle-way possible, I let Tom know this is the role of his lifetime, thus far‘In the nicest, snotty uncle-way possible, I let Tom know this is the role of his lifetime, thus far

‘In the nicest, snotty uncle-way possible, I let Tom know this is the role of his lifetime, thus far.’  — RDJ on Tom Holland’s role in Cherry. 


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russo brothers during tws & cw: steve has come to terms with missing out on life with peggy, doesn’t want the same to happen with bucky and will do anything in his power to save protect him.

the russo brothers with the end of endgame after steve gets bucky back:

It’s the last end credit scene I want the screen to be all black then you just hear Galactus say Herald I hunger and then a hand opens up and you see the Silver Surfer.

Film Review: Avengers: Endgame

It’s all been leading up to this, 11 years and more than 21 movies and it’s time for the Marvel Cinematic Universe to provide a conclusion to the Avengers saga and some of its Phase One heroes. The ones who ushered in a renaissance and resurgence of comic book superhero movies. Whodathunk that back in 2008 when Iron Man first hit the screens that Kevin Feige and Marvel Studios would soon build a…

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1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Marvel)

Directed by Anthony and Joe Russo

Written by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely

Starring Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson, Robert Redford, Samuel L. Jackson

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the only valid reason deadpool hasnt shown up to kick some crusty purple ass is because he wants to see scott lang expand in thanos’ ass, in this essay i will

Tom has mentioned during the ACE comic con panel that he has known about the scene for two years.

This was what Thanos said in this test footage: “I got the information that I need, and now I have to break your neck. It’s just the way it is.

For reference, here’s some stuff from the Avengers: Infinity War director’s audio commentary during the opening scene:

McFeely: We’re starting the script in December, say January of 2016. There’s no Ragnarok script. They’re in in various stages of development, and so the first scene of this movie changed a bunch. And until we figured out that they were gonna end on a trip off of a destroyed Asgard, we didn’t know where Thanos would find Loki.

Markus: We did know we wanted Thanos to come to Loki. And we would find him in any… We have drafts of him in any number of places.

McFeely: It establishes a vengeance story for Thor by taking out his brother and arguably, his best friend.

Joe Russo: Part of what we wanted to do out of the gate was to unsettle you as you’re watching the film. You’re sitting in the theatre thinking, “Most characters in the Marvel Universe have been safe for a decade.” And we wanted to knock you off-kilterandmake theaudience understand that the stakes were going to be significant and the cost was going to be very high in the movie.

Markus: And in that regard, this scene does away with a lot of things from the ongoing MCU. That was… The first MacGuffin from the first Captain America movie just got crushed and stuck into a glove.

Anthony: Bye bye, Tesseract.

Markus: And shortly, the villain from the first Avengers movie

McFeely: Right. Arguably the best villain in the MCU…

Markus: …will achieve a similar end.

Anthony: Aside from establishing… introducing Thanos as our lead and POV in the movie, this scene also heavily kicks off Thor’s arc in the film.

Anthony: The one thing that’s wonderful, one thing we all really responded to about Thor is where he’s left at the end of Ragnarok with the destruction of Asgard… And there’s something fascinating about exporing these people as you strip away who they are and their built-out identities, and find out what’s left. I think we’re going through a very similar process with Thor in this film, especially with this scene, we’re sort of completing the experience that Ragnarok brought to Thor in the sense that we’re taking away the rest of everything away from him.

McFeely: And remember, he (Thanos) had a relationship with Loki even if it was off-screen where he entrusted him with a duty in Avengers 1 and Loki failed, so...

Joe: He’s making him pay.

McFeely: Yeah. Thanos has a long memory.

Anthony: Yep. Fair enough.

Part of an interview with the IW screenwriters:

Stephen McFeely: Hemsworth came to set, and went, “You guys really need to understand that we are doing something different with Ragnarok.” And we knew they were changing it some, but it was so early in the process, so we flew [Ragnarok screenwriter] Eric Pearson and [director] Taika Waititi in and we had long conversations with them. There are at least a couple of jokes in there Taika himself said in passing that we thought were gold. They showed us a few scenes, so we knew that Thor was being re-toned. And we needed to embrace that.

Christopher Markus: But it was also the realization that even in the “funny” one [Ragnarok], his father and his sister die, and that he’s almost becoming comically unlucky at this point, and to follow that to its natural conclusions.

So in summary, Loki’s death scene was decided since two years ago and he mainly died for the following purposes:

  1. Set the tone for the movie by showing Thanos’ cruelty
  2. For shock value
  3. Give place to the new “best” MCU villain Thanos
  4. Fuel Thor’s motivation for revenge, to further Thor’s storyline and character development from where he left off in Ragnarok 

Evidently,none of the above reasons has anything to do with Loki’s arc and character development.

In terms of narrative, it was mentioned in the IW commentary that here Thanos was actually punishing Loki for failing to fulfill his duty in the first Avengers film, but IMO that’s just a load of crap. Thanos was already going to leave the ship; it was Loki who suddenly popped up with his butter knife. Also, what Loki was promised in Avengers was this: “You will long for something as sweet as pain.”

But how could death be worse than pain for Loki, when he had already let himself die twice before? (Just in case anyone wishes to protest that he faked his own death in Ragnarok, please read thisfirst)

In TDW he even said this: “If I am for the axe, then for mercy’s sake, just swing it.”

Loki isn’t afraid and does not cower in the face of death, unlike what had been portrayed of his character in Ragnarok, which was just OOC af. Though I’m glad they rectified this part of his character in IW, the way he died was just too needlessly brutal and meaningless, and also stupid. If the writers truly meant for Thanos to punish Loki in the worst possible way like what was foreshadowed in A1, to be honest it would make more sense to kill Thor instead (just saying). But as it is, the directors and writers were just making excuses and don’t actually care.

I assert that this is a direct result of Thor: Ragnarok. Those who don’t follow the Ragnarokdiscussions may think this is ridiculous, but really, it’s not. This was what I wrote on 20 Apr, before IW was released:

“…when you consider the fact that Thanos arrived right after he said that, and just minutes after he had told Loki ‘Maybe you’re not so bad after all’. It only proved Thor*’s opinion about Loki right–because of course Thor* can never be wrong–that Loki was just never-ending trouble. 

And what I’m worried about is that this will be taken into Infinity War and Loki will be made the scapegoat again.I don’t want Thor* to blame him again and make him feel like the only way he’ll be worthy of his brother’s love and forgiveness is to sacrifice himself to make up for his mistake of taking the Tesseract.”

I couldn’t believe this ended up being exactly what happened in IW, and I hated it so much. While the rest of the audience was laughing, my blood ran cold the moment Thor told Loki “you really are the worst brother”.

By now I think we can all agree that what Loki said—“I hereby pledge to you my undying fidelity”—was meant for Thor. If anyone’s not convinced, here:

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‘Undying Fidelity’ was the title of the soundtrack that was playing from the instant Loki started saying ‘I, Loki, Prince of Asgard…’ to the moment Thor collapsed over his body.

Loki was crying when he said that. Assuming those were Loki’s tears (in character), then it was almost as if Loki had been prepared to die, as though his futile attempt at killing Thanos was deliberate. Why?!?!?! Just because Thor changed his mind about saying “maybe you’re not so bad after all” and told him he was the “worst brother”, so he wanted to prove his fidelity using his life??? It was foolish and OOC, is what I think. 

But then again, if we consider his character and their relationship in Ragnarok,it might not be that out of character after all… As a case in point, I’ve seen someone say this: 

If Loki couldn’t even trick Thor in Ragnarok, what makes you think he can outsmart Thanos?

InRagnarok, his character was twisted and reduced to comic relief, his sacrifice and redemption in TDW was made to seem like a sham and a joke. A previously complex, multifaceted character was simplified into a misbehaving and terrible brother who would betray his only remaining family for the sake of money(?!). When the God of Mischief was asked whether he had a better idea than “get help”, he answered “no” as though it was supposed to be obvious. The graceful, regal, composed and witty prince of Asgard was played for a fool throughout most of the film. His brother criticized him in a way that made it sound like he had always been incorrigible, even though that’s definitely not true if you watched the previous films. Only when he compromised and became “good” on Thor*’s terms after listening to Thor*’s bullshit of a speech was he deemed redeemable.

In short, Ragnarok “put him in his place”, downplayed his powers, stripped him of his purpose, wits, importance and independence as a character, never gave him the equality and respect he wanted. 

The IW writers said this:

“…the first scene of this movie changed a bunch. And until we figured out that they were gonna end on a trip off of a destroyed Asgard, we didn’t know where Thanos would find Loki.”

“We did know we wanted Thanos to come to Loki. And we would find him in any… We have drafts of him in any number of places.”

But with how Ragnarokended up, it became entirely too convenient. It made him too easy to kill off—they could simply make him sacrifice himself for his brother again, since his sacrifice in TDW was retconned into a faked death anyway. 

There wasn’t a need to think of an intricate plot for a character who no longer seemed important—they only needed to put the final nail in the coffin. Since it would serve all their purposes anyway, why not?

“Sometimes I feel like love doesn’t actually exist. It’s just pheromones playing tricks on people.”

|Cherry (2021), dir. Anthony and Joe Russo.

“Sometimes I feel like I’ve already seen everything that’s going to happen and it’s a nightmare.”

|Cherry (2021), dir. Anthony and Joe Russo.

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