#lesbophobia

radical-art-n-inspiration:

“… Where I said “lesbian” the word lesbian was changed to “queer.” I was rebranded. I became the mythological “if the situation was right” lesbian. The appropriated slur “queer,” has become the popular descriptor of choice for a “yes” girl or a “maybe” girl— An “I’m not going to rule anything out because I’m open-minded” girl. It doesn’t carry the sting of lesbian. The stigma of lesbian. The boundaries of lesbian. Lesbian is a solid “No.” ”Not even if…” And that unwillingness to bend is the very reason lesbians are targeted with insidious psychological warfare.”

—Why didn’t you say something sooner? – You’re asking the wrong question, Julie Diana Robertson, Huffpost US

allo-dyke-privilege:

The ironic paradox of biphobia and lesbophobia is that lesbophobia will have you believe society wants you to be bi and biphobia will have you believe society wants you to be lesbian. The reality is that society does not want you to be lesbian or bi; that society only wants you to be straight, but will not hesitate to use other identities against you. If that means tricking you into believing your closest allies occupy a higher social standing than you and wish to keep you beneath them in the same way the straights do to them, then so be it. It’s not even divide and conquer, its recruiting us to do their own bidding and ridding them of us in the process. Heterosexuals as a class do not prefer lesbians to bisexuals or bisexuals to lesbians, thought individually each one might have differing opinions on which are most or least acceptable.

Attempting to convince you that bi privilege or monosexual privilege exists is an intended to shift our arms towards our allies instead of our oppressors.

thevaginamonoblogs:

translesbophobia:

aftonfamilyvalues:

aftonfamilyvalues:

the her app will literally ban you for not dating transwomen. further explanation of their policy:

wonderful clarification from the her app here gals

whoever runs their social media is such a piece of shit lol

The problem I have with this is that the reason for my no would have to be known for the report to be valid.

If I just say “no”, and they probe for a reason, that’s coercion. They’re attempting to turn my no into a yes, or to guilt me for saying no.

The trick here is to just say no, give no reason, and appeal any report or ban on the basis of “how is my refusal transphobic? All I said was no”

If you give a no and someone attempts to gain your reason in any way, block and report them for harassment.

You NEVER owe anyone a reason for saying no. Give them a no, and leave it at that.

womenarehuman:

aftonfamilyvalues:

aftonfamilyvalues:

the her app will literally ban you for not dating transwomen. further explanation of their policy:

wonderful clarification from the her app here gals

All of HER’s investors are men:

Yannick Mons - male

Andy Phillips - male

Alexis Ohanian - male

Garry Tan - male

Michael Birch - male

THERE’S THE PROBLEM. Of course peen-havers aren’t going to allow a woman to not like dick. We all must worship the dick or be punished. Never trust social media run or funded by men.

nakimushiga-ru:

hostility towards people who claim that lesbians can be attracted to men isn’t ‘misdirected’, it’s justified and necessary

Call out homophobia no matter where you find it.

freakshows199:

cottagedyke:

freakshows199:

auntiewanda:

Reminder that lesbians don’t desire penises and you’re homophobic if you argue otherwise! ^_^

May I inquire your stance on pre transitioned trans women you know the ladies who haven’t had bottom surgery?

lesbians don’t desire penises or the men attached to them

A trans woman is a woman wether she has bottom surgery or not

Define the word woman.

I feel so sorry for all the young lesbians whose female partners are currently medically transitioning. They have to support their partners’ transitions unconditionally and unquestioningly lest they be called transphobic, they have to wonder whether they’ll still be attracted to their partners post-transition, they have to stop calling themselves lesbians lest they offend their partners. And if they break it off, will their friends call them transphobic? Will they be marked as terfs?

I can’t imagine being a teenager, falling in love with a girl, and then essentially being forced (I remember how deep the fear of being transphobic went) to call the girl I love they or he, watch her start testosterone or get surgery, and give up calling myself lesbian. It would be heartbreaking and confusing. I know this is happening—I can name several couples like this who show up on my Instagram feed these days. And it is heartbreaking. How many more young lesbians would there be if they didn’t give up the lesbian label to accommodate their attraction to trans identified females? How many more young lesbians would there be if they were encouraged to look up to and learn from older lesbians rather than dismiss them as terfs or … not queer enough?

(This is not meant to imply I don’t care about the hardships of the scores of “trans” teenage girls themselves. I absolutely do, having been one for several years.)

auntiewanda:

cottagelore:

cottagelore:

really is telling how one of the most basic things that gay people ask for—happiness, safety, and legal status in a relationship with the one you love—is something that is met with derision or mockery in the ‘lgbt community.’ it’s because it’s something that people who are just playing gay cannot connect with, and something that they don’t put a lot of stock in. that’s why you’ll see things like gay marriage put down as gay assimilation, and that’s why you’ll see the promotion of happy, healthy gay couples called homonormativity. it’s such a basic desire, and you can really just tell when someone who’s never dreamt of asking for it in their lives (i.e., straight people, asexual people). because they don’t need to and they don’t think that you should ask for it either

it’s just hurtful. people who never had to contend with the idea that they could be denied services, jailed, beaten, killed, excommunicated from a church, or otherwise socially marginalized for a relationship are being allowed to define what is “useful” activism regarding relationships. people who never felt dirty and wrong and unnatural and against god for their childhood crushes get to say whatever they want under the umbrella ‘queer.’ which they claim not because it’s politically useful, but because it erases the line between who is same-sex attracted and who is not.

and yet they still have the audacity to say the dumbest lines. not gay as in happy, but queer as in fuck you. out of the mouth of a man who has only ever desired women. i hate it.

In 2015 in the US our rights movement actually accomplished real normality for us and that just made a bunch of heterosexuals lose their minds. They invited themselves in, claimed to be one of us for asinine reasons (”oh I’m a sapiosexual panromantic greyace agender person!”) and insisted that things needed to be “queered” up again. We had to be out there. We had to be freaks. We had to be counter-culture and shocking. We had to be their wild entertainment that they never thought would actually gain equality even while they praised themselves for paying us lipservice. 

So now they trot out all the same old homophobia. They try to excommunicate us from our own organizations or our communities our own venues our own events and finally our own movement. They try to change the meanings of our words to include themselves and exclude us. They try to call us old hat, claim that we’retherealoppressors and they’re the ones truly suffering from our lack of cooperation.

And they outnumber us. And the rest of straight society either consciously or unconsciously approves. Because, hey, it’s just gay stuff. It’s just queer stuff. It’s just homo stuff. So who cares?

Another reason why kink should never be grouped in with LGB. Just encourages the idea that we are sexual deviants and should be “proud” of it, when all we’ve ever fought for, for centuries, eons, has been normal lives and acceptance from society. To love who we love and have nobody bat an eye. To bring home our girlfriend and have our parents laugh and throw cards at her when she beats them at Uno. And to get married, to have children.

The most boring gay couple with two kids and a white picket fence will always be more meaningful to me than a juvenile contest of who can be the queerest.

How liberating it is to realize that I am a lesbian not because I ‘identify’ with ‘lesbian culture’, look and dress a certain way, see myself in other lesbians, or *suppresses laughter* enjoy the ~lesbian aesthetics~ and the word lesbian, but only because I am a female exclusively attracted to other females.

I can be whatever kind of person I want to be and nothing I do can make me more or less lesbian.

candyfxmme:

just waiting for the day people decide to stop being transphobic, lesbophobic, and biphobic all in one fell swoop.

if you believe “bi/pan lesbians” are actually genuinely a thing and not a term popularized by a TERF who wanted to separate lesbians who date trans women from the term lesbian, unfollow me, block me, get the fuck off this blog.

you’re ripping the only word lesbians have to describe their exclusive attraction to women and non-binary sapphic people, you’re ripping decades of activism dealt out by the bisexual community to be seen as a whole and independent identity and not a “pathological behavior” like doctors used to push. you are undoing years of work, blood, sweat, and tears.

This is transphobic misinformation.

Bi/pan lesbians have been “a thing” since lesbian identity was first adopted over a century ago, being part of—and creating!—lesbian community and culture alongside mono lesbians.

They predate TERFs by decades, and TERFs are ideologically opposed to them. TERFs claim that bi lesbians are not lesbians of any kind, “just bisexual”, just like they claim trans-inclusive lesbians aren’t lesbians. Opposition to bi lesbians is popularised by TERFs, who want to separate them from lesbianism in exactly the same way that they want to separate trans lesbians and trans-inclusive lesbians from lesbianism. (The idea that TERFs only target trans women is pernicious.) The arguments in favour of exclusionism are similar in both cases, which TERFs use (and have admitted to using) to their advantage.

The only “work, blood, sweat, and tears” those who continue to respect bi lesbians are undoing is that of harmful exclusion.

luciferfemme:

let’s put this to bed once and for all. 

bi lesbians is a terf term used to attack lesbians who date trans women. 

it’s transphobic, lesbphobic, and biphobic wrapped up into one. There is no good faith argument to support the use of this term. 

You can lean towards one or the other but that doesn’t make you any less bi. 

Further more yes you can still ID as butch/femme. 

We good now? 

This isn’t true, but transphobic misinformation that exploits genuine transphobia to harm lesbians.

Bi lesbians—as in lesbians attracted both to (cis, trans, binary, nonbinary) women and to others—have been part of lesbian community since the identity was first adopted. Even explicit bi-and-lesbian identity is older than TERFs.

Meanwhile, TERFs and their predecessors—lesbian separatists, “political lesbians”, etc.—are responsible for mainstream arguments to exclude bi lesbians from their own (lesbian) community and culture. TERFs are ideologically opposed to bi lesbians, and claim that trans-inclusive lesbians are bi ONLY; they do not consider them to be lesbians of any kind, “just bisexual”.

justlgbtthings:

catgirlapologist:

ok but genuinely, what’s going on on the lesbian lgbt wiki page is so disgusting and upsetting, lesbians have to be exposed to lesbophobia even when they just look up their own identity. not only did the admins lock the page and the comment section so no one could change it or speak up against it, which is literally silencing lesbians, but they’re also calling ANYONE who disagrees with them a terf and a political lesbian, including literal transfem lesbians. in case it wasn’t clear tme people calling tma people terfs is inherently transphobic. also if that wasn’t enough transphobia, they’re not only silencing lesbians trying to speak up about lesbophobia but they’re also silencing trans men who are speaking up about the insanely transphobic take on the wiki page that trans men can be lesbians. it’s literally just so exhausting to have to deal with this and i haven’t even seen anyone here talk about it. saying that men and bi/pan people can be lesbians is lesbophobic and biphobic/panphobic, and calling lesbians, bi/pan people and trans people who try to correct your insanely harmful takes terfs and political lesbians is also lesbophobic, biphobic/panphobic and transphobic. literally just let lesbians define our own identity, stop speaking over us, and stop silencing us when we try to correct you

[ID: a colorful sparkling gif reading: “terfs don’t fucking touch this post” /end ID]

calling lesbians terfs on the basis of them being lesbians or defining our own orientation (while explicitly being trans-inclusive!) is lesbophobic af.

ok first of all why even talk about the tma/tme part of the post if you don’t even have any idea what it means bc what you said doesn’t even remotely make sense lmfao. and i literally do not care about your self-pity about being an mspec lesbian. which part of this post clearly saying the “mspec lesbian” label is lesbophobic send you the message that i wanted to listen to you whine about how lesbophobia isn’t your fault. i literally do not care and i literally do not wanna hear anything from you especially if it’s just gonna be you trying to make people feel bad for you because you wanna use a label that doesn’t apply to you and people point out how it’s harmful. like next time literally just scroll past the post bc this whole vent in the tags was 1) completely pointless 2) not something i care about and 3) not something i wanted to see in my notifications. if it bothered you that much you could’ve made a vent post for yourself or talked to your friends about it but i promise you none of us want to listen to this bs here. go victimize yourself somewhere else

lesbotan:

lesbotan:

i know i day this every year but if you find you find the lesbian label too limiting ot restrictive, you might simply not be a lesbian

telling lesbians that our identity doesn’t include nonbinary ppl is lesbophobic. telling us we’re actually bi/pan/mspec lesbians because we’re attracted to nonbinary ppl is lesbophobic and erases nonbinary lesbians. this June consider leaving us alone instead

Two weeks ago a lesbian was removed from a Zoom conference hosted by the Dutch branch of Amnesty International when she asked about respecting lesbians’ rights to exclude TIMs from their dating pool. Someone in the chat also told her she ought to reconsider why she didn’t think transwomen were women (and reconsider her sexuality because of it).

This was how Dutch Amnesty advertised their event for International Women’s Day last year (2020):

The attacks on women’s and gay rights are not just happening in the UK, Canada and the US. The impact is far greater than a select few “first world” countries.

lucydonato:

ngl it’s pretty annoying to me when the response to any female character existing in proximity to a mlm ship (canon or not) is either “boo she sucks I don’t want her to be a love interest and get in the way” or “don’t worry she’s their mean lesbian bestie” like have you tried being normal about women for once

@getawaycardotmp3 you’re right and you should say it

i come back from the dead to say genital preference isn’t transphobic because penises are, 99% of the time, male anatomy, and vagina’s are, 99% of the time, female anatomy.

you can’t go around lesbians and say that they have to like penis otherwise they’re transphobic. for people who are all about comfort and respect, you sure hate giving lesbians the respect that they deserve.

nirvanainitiate:

as pride gets closer i am honestly begging you guys to remember lesbians. please. im so tired of being forgotten about or put to the side. im so tired of seeing our flag excluded because its “the same as gay”. its not. dont tag your pride things as lgbt if you include every letter but the first. my identity is not an afterthought. my inclusion is not a political statement, nor is it optional. please, remember us. were here too.

turnerssyndrometomboy:

jacine-the-queen:

turnerssyndrometomboy:

jacine-the-queen:

“pro alternate support for ppl with gender dysphoria” meaning conversion therapy, because if they actually acknowledged the proven effective treatment method for vast majority of people with dysphoria they’d be for transitioning

“pro common sense” yeah funny how I hear every conservative and alt right twat talk about common sense in regards to trans people. “they’re not what they say it’s just common sense, they’re mentally ill”

On that post she made about Elliot: wasn’t he literally gnc anyway before he came out? Like I always remember seeing him in suits and stuff. May not have been quite as masc but she’s acting like they were super feminine or something when they weren’t?

I’m sure he knows he didn’t need to transition to be masc and knows himself better than anyone else considering he is quite literally an adult in his 30s the way these FITs talk about grown trans men like they’re children is fucking abhorrent

I really am never wrong with my takes when it comes to these people

Also I never want to a FIT complain about my use of the word cunt because we all know they won’t call out this FIT for the exact same use of it

That third screenshot…alongside the obvious transphobia, calling someone a lezzi and a dyke like that…feelsreally lesbphobic tbh and it really doesn’t make it okay just bc she herself is a lesbian, you just don’t do that shit

ruimtetijd:

femmebisexuelle:

runawaymarbles:

The greatest trick the right ever pulled was convincing queer people that other queer people are the enemy

What a load of bullshit lmao

Other LGBT people can absolutely be “the enemy”. Cis LGB people can be transphobic, non-bisexuals can be biphobic, non-lesbians can be lesbophobic etc.

Am I supposed to ignore those people just because they’re in my community? Am I supposed to bite my tongue when I see other LGBT people telling me that bisexuals are diseased whores, that trans people are mentally ill, that lesbians are all disgusting man haters or that gay men are a plague because “other LGBT people are not the enemy”?

Also, what on earth is even “the right”? What “right”? Which party? Of which country? Its ridiculous to use a generic “right” as a scapegoat because you don’t want to acknowledge that LGBT people can be bigoted other LGBT people.

Solidarity without holding your own community accountable is absolutely pointless, as its pointless to blame a generic group of bad guys for the actions of people within your community.

I wanna add that not only can LGBT people be bigoted towards each other, you can also be bigoted towards people like yourself. If bullies who are gay can be homophobic towards, and harass, their openly gay peers, is it such a stretch to point out that trans people can say transphobic things? That bisexuals, particularly those who are in denial of being bisexual, can spread biphobic misinformation? what about lesbian TERFs, that regularly spew lesbophobic rhetoric, claim that all lesbians have the same preferences, and erase trans lesbians? 

Ever heard of the phrase “too gay to be straight, too straight to be gay” OP? bc that’s a sentiment echoed by bisexuals who feel as though they are “too gay” to fit in with their straight peers while being simultaneously being “too straight” to fit in with their gay peers (i.e., to exist in LGBT spaces, and this becomes magnified if they are dating an opposite-sex partner). 

The LGBT community may be full of rainbows, but it sure as hell isn’t full of fucking sunshine! 

Just because two people are lgbt doesn’t make them friends. It doesn’t mean they respect each other. lgbt people can 100% still be bigots.

i got to jensen. um

flowerchildfemme:

lesbianrey:

lesbianrey:

did you know that in 1953 eisenhower issued an executive order which banned gay people from being employed in government and it was specifically to root out lesbians who enjoyed the job security of government work

“To protect their careers, lesbian government workers moderated their behavior to avoid suspicion. They refused to socialize with other lesbians in public, attended social functions with gay men as their ‘dates,’ and carefully chose their wardrobes and makeup to project a feminine persona. Male employees who resented reporting to a female boss could trigger an investigation into her sexuality.” - Robert J Corber “Cold War Femme”

this era was called the lavender scare and was both a direct result of mccarthyism and the classification of homosexuality as a mental illness during ww2. over 10,000 lesbians and gay men lost their jobs and as a result the daughters of bilitis (the first ever lesbian activist group in the u.s.) formed in order to protect themselves and gay men

ororomunroedontpullout:

boytoykisser:

asphalthater:

boytoykisser:

…the d slur discourse is taking an interesting turn.

lovecraftian discourse monsters under ice etc etc but do people just keep making new flags with different shades of pink whenever the previous maker turns out to be #problematic because that idea is so funny

Apparently this Pride month is all about flag discourse because that’s all Ive seen on Twitter (but what did I expect from that nightmare of a website?). The creator of the “old” flag, a literal lesbian, says the word dyke and now it’s suddenly a punishable crime. She also recently took down her online shop (which she heavily relied on to make money since she’s struggling) because lots of people have been giving her shit.

Dyke is prosecuted for calling herself a dyke.