Just in case y’all weren’t convinced yet that a lot of truscum/transmed ideology is followed by alt-right or anti-feminism or literal nazi’s, here’s your proof
This is taken from the account bepisdog.
My guy, being a transmed just means you believe that you need dysphoria to be trans. Anything else is not transmedicalism. I completely disagree with many of this guy’s points and yet we are both transmeds. Having one thing in common doesn’t make us the same and you are generalizing by saying it does.
Yeah I know what transmedicalism is, I was a trasmed, and this person followed me before I blocked him. My point is that the ideology is followed by sh¡tty people saying and doing sh¡tty things completely unchecked.
But isn’t because they are transmeds. Every community has bad apples, it’s just how the world works.
Just because a shitty person shares an opinion with another group doesn’t mean it’s automatically shitty. Their transmedicalist views are separate from the others. I absolutely disagree with the shitty things that person says, and they are absolutely not welcome into the transmed community. Agreeing with one opinion doesn’t mean you condone everything they do.
everytime I see a post like “I believed in transmedicalism before I understood better” the person mentions something about how they used to deny they were trans because they didn’t experience “debilitatingdysphoria”. not that they didn’t experience dysphoria at all but that it wasn’t debilitatingand I’m just like
that’s not what transmedicalists are saying though…?
some of you are just making up standards without ever even speaking to a transmedicalist, based on gossip from friends or w/e, then act enlightened when your views change from what you THOUGHT transmedicalism was.
literally all it means is believing you need some dysphoria to be trans, for the simple fact that the unease is an indicator that your gender isn’t matching- and that’s any level of unease. that’s ALL. everything else are standards made up by people who disagree despite not really understanding
as much as everyone says they hate transmeds and they’re against transmeds, every trans person I’ve ever spoken to describes some level of unease with their birth gender. they describe it in different ways and to different extents, but the very basic indicator of “hey, something isn’t right”, is something even people who claim to have no dysphoria, end up talking about experiencing
what I’m getting at here is that dysphoria encompasses a lot more experiences and “levels” than you’ve been led to believe and the issue here isn’t one of transmed vs everyone else, it’s of poor medical labelling and people thinking they have to be miserable when that’s literally not what anyone is saying
By telling trans people they should learn to love their bodies and unlearn their dysphoria, you’re suggesting something incredibly similar to something that starts with “pray”, ends with “away” and involves ~fixing~ gay people.
the truscum community has turned from having intellectual discussions to cringing about teenagers using bun pronouns and it doesn’t help our case and is honestly just annoying.
I would much rather talk about how the concept of pronouns like it/bun/gore are harmful than mocking some kid who wants attention. it’s also just rude, kids are cringe and were just putting them out here to publicly humiliate.
unless the kid is being absolutely horrible I think it’s just not right to do that. they probably have their own mental health issues and attention issues that they need to work on, a bunch of people making fun of them won’t help them or our cause. it will just make us look mean.
Look at this. Anti-trans bills popping up everywhere, plenty of them being passed and written into law. One state (Arkansas) literally cites a cat xenogender as the reason for their anti-trans law.
And you mogai-using narcissists still can’t pull the freaking redwood tree out of your eye and you continue to call transmedicalists “bullies”.
Look at what the hell you’ve just done. We have regressed back years and years because of you. We were so close to a widespread acceptance of transgender people in America, non-binary not even that close behind. And now, only six years later…people are grouping transgender people with “transspecies” lunatics.
I know you’ll pull the excuse of “but they were transphobic to begin with!!!!!!1!!1!!!!”. My dad was accepting of transgender people, genuinely curious about the topic, and then became horrified when his friend’s daughter came out as a non-binary void. You can say it all you want, but gender is not a social construct. And this is not going to last forever.
Looking at the bills and how so many adults are starting an uproar against transgender people, I can guarantee that you mogai people are going to face laws in the way of making people accept your insane identities. You should be ashamed of yourselves for speaking over actual, real, dysphoric transgender people. Especially dysphoric teenagers, the ones you claim to be helping.
Of course, the amount of detransitioners and anti-trans bills will be incredibly high, so dysphoric transgender people will, of course, have to work around that and try once again to make themselves seem normal in society.
This was long coming, I just don’t care for it nearly as much as I used to. Besides, I’ve met someone who made me reevaluate my views on discourse (pro tip: don’t fall in love with two enbies in a row?) and whether I need to be engaged in it per se? It’s difficult to explain, my stance hasn’t changed much, I just don’t care for it.
Y'all might have noticed that I haven’t engaged with much discourse lately as it is. Let’s just say my mental health didn’t take the hit of losing a support system as well as I hoped it would.
On the bright side, I don’t think I’ll try and kill myself ever again. And I’ll definitely purge much more of my online presence over time, once I have it.
I’m still going to be on this blog, don’t get me wrong. Just less.
They were right when they told me I’d know who my real friends were. And I’ll cherish these people more than I could ever before.
The way I was so confused before reading the comments,,, why tf is “gore” one of your pronouns like nya, whatever I’ve seen it before, cats cute and all whatever. Still dumb but ok. But GORE??
The use of “nya’s” makes it clear these aren’t PRONOUNS. They are simply NOUNS. They’re nicknames for the person. We do not conjugate hers, his, or theirs. None of these “neopronouns” are pronouns, they’re proper noun nicknames that you demand people use in place of normal simplified speech.
Reasons why the “trans is a medical condition” narrative bugs me:
It implies that being cis is normal and that being trans is abnormal, or a defect.
It implies that transness is something to be cured, fixed, or endured, rather than a part of yourself to be proud of.
It implies that transness is defined by suffering or unhappiness, when in fact most of us are happier after we accept ourselves as trans, and many of us embrace it.
It implies that the main problem with being trans is transness itself, rather than living in a horribly transphobic society.
By treating transness as a private, individual issue instead of as a social phenomenon, it fails to hold transphobic people and transphobic culture accountable for why trans people suffer.
It implies that you need medical authorities and/or gatekeepers to verify that you’re actually trans, to “diagnose” you with it, and that you don’t have the right to identify as whatever is best for you. It takes power out of trans people’s hands and gives it to cis people.
It implies that cis people are better authorities on whether a person is trans, and what it means to be trans, than trans people are.
Requiring diagnosis/treatment from the medical establishment penalizes poor trans people, disabled or neurodivergent trans people, non-English-speaking trans people, and trans people of color.
It’s usually associated with the idea that you need body dysphoria to “prove” that you’re trans, which is exclusionary and harmful to a lot of trans people.
It’s connected to nasty ideas like “autogynephilia” which disproportionately pathologize trans women, police their identities, and make it harder for them to get support or transition.
It puts non-binary trans people in a difficult position, because the medical establishment has no idea how to deal with us, or transition routes besides FTM or MTF.
Now, I can definitely understand why gender dysphoria (especially body dysphoria) might be considered a medical condition. But even then, I think we should be cautious about how much of a person’s suffering we attribute to illness, and how much of it is caused by the society around them.
Also: It’s perfectly fine if you’re trans and you see your transness as a medical condition. If that model works for you, that’s great and I support that. I’m just saying that, when transness in general is conceptualized as a medical condition, or when that’s seen as the only way to be trans, it bothers me a lot.
I never use this blog anymore, but I think I ought to outline this thought anyways.
There’s nothing wrong with not having dysphoria.
There’s nothing wrong with not having dysphoria and also wanting to change your name, or your pronouns, or drastically alter your hairstyle/clothes/gender presentation. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying when strangers can’t tell your gender, or think you’re the opposite gender. And you can do all of this without dysphoria.
What it means is that you’re GNC in an extreme way. And thats ok! It’s just a different experience from trans people who suffer from dysphoria that we need to medically alleviate.
And I’m pretty sure these two groups of people have historically intermingled a lot, sometimes used each others’ labels. And that’s also ok. I’m just saying, it might be time, in the modern day, to separate into two different labels, because we know more now, and we have different experiences and different needs (even if we also have some shared ones). Because we now know the neurological differences between the two, as well as differences in social needs.
If you don’t have dysphoria, you’re not trans, but like, that’s ok? And I’m not gonna gatekeep you from changing your pronouns or anything, fr man that is your own life and business not mine, as long as you’re not hurting yourself I support you 100%. All I’m really saying is that we’re both valid, but not the same, and it might be best to differentiate ourselves as two similar but distinct groups with similar but distinct experiences and needs.
You don’t need dysphoria to be trans, though
Why?
To repeat myself: dysphoric and non-dysphoric people have different needs, socially. This has been evident to me from the conflict arising when, for example, non-dysphorics say it’s problematic and transphobic for us to describe our experiences as “a man trapped in a woman’s body” or similar descriptions, when for a LOT of dysphoric people, that is exactly how we feel and we need those descriptions to communicate our actual lived experiences. Or, for another example, when nondysphorics were obsessed with removing dysphoria/transness as a mental illness, when doing so jeopardizes a lot of dysphoric people’s access to transition healthcare. Or trying to make transness out to be a social issue rather than a neurological/biological one. (Because it IS a neurological condition that needs treating through transition, and trying to change the definition to a social issue will KILL DYSPHORIC TRANS PEOPLE. There is nothing wrong with having a condition. What IS wrong is trying to redefine that condition so the people with it no longer have their related fucking healthcare insured.)
Now, if we have such different needs, it seems most logical to separate into two groups, so that we can have our own social movements instead of stepping on each others’ toes all the time.
I truly do not understand why anyone would be against this unless they’re nondysphoric (or dysphoric, actually) and don’t see the harm that pushing these two experiences together has caused mainly for dysphoric trans people. (Though, like I said, we both step on each others’ toes, and it would benefit nondysphorics as well to have their own label.)
Hell, both can exist under the label “trans”, idc, as long as we’re publicly acknowledged to be different. “Nondysphoric trans” and “dysphoric trans” becoming labels that the general public uses would be a great scenario here.
What I mean is: why are we arguing whether you need dysphoria to be trans when trans is just a word? Why can’t we focus on meeting the two communities’ needs by creating separate but socially related labels?
y’all say all men are trash, but when someone tries to include transmen you say that they aren’t. admit your transphobia and leave, sweethearts, because trans men are men through and through and if all men are trash, you need to include us too.
tucutes, banning me because i shared my opinion in a discourse server and they’re busy with their fingers in their ears going lalala:
The following are popular beliefs but untrue:
That any and all discourse must be “neutral”;
That “neutral” means giving any and all viewpoints the same platform, no matter how demonstrably true or immoral.
Truscum: joins a server with anti truscum and states beliefs that invalidate trans people
Truscum: is kicked
Truscum:
Truscum: *Make several unfounded statements that disrespects the identities and existence of several people because ~“It’s my opinion uwu”~ no matter how racist, transphobic, ableist, classist, etc. it is*
Anti-truscum: *Give actual scientific sources and disprove several of these statements, continually talk about how the woman who is frequently cited as coining the term “truscum” isn’t a “"cis girl”“, she’s a transwomanwho was mercilessly harassed by these assholes, had her nudes spread around by truscum, and was accused of her genitalia being fake because "It’s a different color from the rest of your body, obviously a fake”, even when she provided pictures of her estrogen too. And that continuing to call her a “cis girl” even while knowing this just serves to add onto her harassment and a way to misgender her. Make clear that people have something called boundaries and that we don’t want our safe spaces to be constantly invaded by entitled assholes who think that their opinions should rule our lives and dictate our lived experiences*
Truscum, immediately:
i logged back in and saw that people are still spreading this post around.
i’ll never come back to discourse on tumblr while it is still like this. every single one of you will harass someone to the ends of the earth just to prove that you’re right. you almost cost me my life, and that still could’ve been worse.
if you know what’s good for you, and you want to be considered genuinely good people, you need to listen. you won’t continually harass them. when they say they need to stop, they need to fucking stop. it doesn’t mean they consider themselves in the right 100% of the time, in fact, maybe they’re resigning because they believe you are right.
this is my formal apology for the post: i’m sorry. now please, leave me alone, and anyone else involved, because discourse shouldn’t have to be as goddamn lethal as i and all of you made it become.
So, to any inclus, exclus/transmeds, block magic/dayz for antisemitism. Do not interact with or harass or send threats to him though. Please.
So let’s start from the beginning to understand the situation. magic/dayz posted this:
To which I sent this ask that he replied to (but didn’t add my tag because I figured maybe they’d listen if I didn’t use my openly inclus main blog):
Ok, ok. I figured this could be a kid who just doesn’t understand why this is not good. I wasn’t able to screenshot my original reply to him from the notes because he blocked me immediately after sending me this.
(@rittz is an exclusionist who basically said that the anon I sent was right about the antisemitism)
But what I said in replies was basically, antisemitism is deeply rooted and often heavily influences media. Even if the people making a show don’t intentionally do something antisemitic, this is so deeply rooted that people often make antisemitic caricatures without fully realizing that they’ve done it. That doesn’t make it any less antisemitic. I remember using Mother Gothel from the Tangled movie’s design as an example because it ticks a lot of boxes.
I was upset and frustrated so I sent this anon that was more aggressive than I meant it to be and tagged it this time:
And his response was this:
And after that came this because I was upset that he kept brushing off a Jewish person telling him he was saying something antisemitic:
And there we go. I think I explained things pretty well in the asks about whats bad and why even if they were much more aggressive and emotional that I’d have liked.
like if your bio has ‘truscum don’t interact’ in it but you go out of your way to interact with truscum first then like…i Really Don’t Know What to Tell You.
Trumeds: We’re just protecting the community and real trans people! We’re just trying to help!
Also trumeds: *mass report dysphoric trans artists and activists to have their blogs taken down and get them post blocked for either disagreeing with them, or for being GNC in the “wrong way” and loving their transness (which they’ll take as “proof” of them being “trenders”)*
I’m extremely anti trumed, just in case you didn’t know
