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Just in case y’all weren’t convinced yet that a lot of truscum/transmed ideology is followed by alt-right or anti-feminism or literal nazi’s, here’s your proof

This is taken from the account bepisdog.

My guy, being a transmed just means you believe that you need dysphoria to be trans. Anything else is not transmedicalism. I completely disagree with many of this guy’s points and yet we are both transmeds. Having one thing in common doesn’t make us the same and you are generalizing by saying it does.

Yeah I know what transmedicalism is, I was a trasmed, and this person followed me before I blocked him. My point is that the ideology is followed by sh¡tty people saying and doing sh¡tty things completely unchecked.

But isn’t because they are transmeds. Every community has bad apples, it’s just how the world works.

Just because a shitty person shares an opinion with another group doesn’t mean it’s automatically shitty. Their transmedicalist views are separate from the others. I absolutely disagree with the shitty things that person says, and they are absolutely not welcome into the transmed community. Agreeing with one opinion doesn’t mean you condone everything they do.

nevsky-shit:

legimate autistic trans person: this mogai shit, especially neurogenders and your “autigender”, harms us

some cis kid: lmao mean gatekeeper

Me, neurodivergent and nonbinary: neopronouns arent necessary and saying that people like me “need” them to “properly express” our gender makes us out to be dumb toddlers.

Some cisgender neurotypical: you’re ableist >:((((

Out of curiosity, how many transmeds here actually believe that you need debilitating gender dysphoria in order to be a valid transgender person. Tucutes always explain transmedicalism to me (a transmed) by saying we think that you need to absolutely hate yourself to be seen as valid. I know I don’t believe that and I don’t think any of you (minus possible radicals, but radicals are always shit) actually think that.

probablytransmed:

Medicalizing being trans is about:

  • Making it easier and cheaper for trans people to get hrt and surgery under insurance
  • Making de-transitioners less common

Medicalizing being trans is NOT about:

  • Telling anyone if they are or are not trans because their dysphoria doesn’t match a “one size fits all” model

Remember that wanting to make detransitioners less common doesn’t mean it’s not okay to detransition! We make mistakes! We have phases! We just wanna prevent people from medically transitioning and finding out the hard way :)

If you’re not gender dysphoric, you’re not trans.

If you, quote, unquote, “don’t feel like a girl,” but aren’t dysphoric, you’re not trans.

You’ve hijacked the transgender term and turned it into something that exists for the soul purpose of grabbing oppression points.

You can feel like how you want to present yourself is opposite to the traditional, but if you’re not dysphoric, you’re not trans.

You’ve turned it into a quirky label instead of a serious mental illness.

And I also have trouble taking transgenders seriously on this hellsite.

I said “transgenders” instead of “transgender people” because it seems like you don’t want to be seen as a person, you want to be seen for your adopted oppression.

okay okay.. don’t yell at me but..

the truscum community has turned from having intellectual discussions to cringing about teenagers using bun pronouns and it doesn’t help our case and is honestly just annoying.

I would much rather talk about how the concept of pronouns like it/bun/gore are harmful than mocking some kid who wants attention. it’s also just rude, kids are cringe and were just putting them out here to publicly humiliate.

unless the kid is being absolutely horrible I think it’s just not right to do that. they probably have their own mental health issues and attention issues that they need to work on, a bunch of people making fun of them won’t help them or our cause. it will just make us look mean.

I’m leaving discourse.

This was long coming, I just don’t care for it nearly as much as I used to. Besides, I’ve met someone who made me reevaluate my views on discourse (pro tip: don’t fall in love with two enbies in a row?) and whether I need to be engaged in it per se? It’s difficult to explain, my stance hasn’t changed much, I just don’t care for it.

Y'all might have noticed that I haven’t engaged with much discourse lately as it is. Let’s just say my mental health didn’t take the hit of losing a support system as well as I hoped it would.

On the bright side, I don’t think I’ll try and kill myself ever again. And I’ll definitely purge much more of my online presence over time, once I have it.

I’m still going to be on this blog, don’t get me wrong. Just less.

They were right when they told me I’d know who my real friends were. And I’ll cherish these people more than I could ever before.

kiss-the-cis:

morningstar-matriarch:

The way I was so confused before reading the comments,,, why tf is “gore” one of your pronouns like nya, whatever I’ve seen it before, cats cute and all whatever. Still dumb but ok. But GORE??

The use of “nya’s” makes it clear these aren’t PRONOUNS. They are simply NOUNS. They’re nicknames for the person. We do not conjugate hers, his, or theirs. None of these “neopronouns” are pronouns, they’re proper noun nicknames that you demand people use in place of normal simplified speech.

phantom-thief-of-hearts:

Be an absolute idiot

If you believe that being trans is just a matter of socialization and personal self-expression, you’re part of the problematic mindset that keeps transgender men and women from being viewed as individuals with a rare physiological condition which requires specific and beneficial medical treatment.

it’s so funny to me when nondysphorics insist that cis people aren’t allowed to have an opinion on trans discourse.

like…buddy…youre cis. that’s you. whatchu doin with that opinion? 

like if your bio has ‘truscum don’t interact’ in it but you go out of your way to interact with truscum first then like…i Really Don’t Know What to Tell You.

I’ll never understand the tucute/mogai/inclusionist obsession with intentionally going into transmed/anti-mogai/exclusuonist tags just to flip their shit at the people in those tags.

like if you have no patience for differing opinions then like…stay out of those tags? don’t intentionally look for posts that you already know are going to piss you off? that just doesn’t seem rational or healthy at all.

anarchist-pug:

honestly i’m convinced that transtrenders who are “faking it for attention” or “pretending to be trans” are far and few between and the majority of the “you don’t need dysphoria to be trans” discourse just stems from people genuinely thinking that gender dysphoria only means suffering, self-hatred, severe physical/body dysphoria, and the intent to medically transition (which it doesn’t).

like i have a friend who, when it came up in conversation once, said that he believed you can be trans without dysphoria. his reason for thinking so was that he has a trans friend (post top surgery, a few years on t) who (inb4 someone tries to claim quotation marks are indicative of sarcasm or disbelief, i’m literally just quoting him) “loves his body.”

so we’ve got two problems here. one, dysphoria doesn’t mean hating your body. yeah there’s an overlap—a lot of trans people dohate their bodies—but it’s not a requirement to hate yourself. you just need dysphoria of some kind. two, conflating post-dysphoric with non-dysphoric. of course someone who’s transitioned (either medically or socially) is going to have less dysphoria or even none. that’s the whole point of transitioning: it’s how you alleviate gender dysphoria. the alternative is conversion therapy, and i don’t think i need to explain why that’s bad or ineffective.

and this was an actual IRL friend, not some random stranger on tumblr with their fingers in their ears, so we actually had a civil conversation about it instead of suicide baiting, calling each other clowns, shitposting and then blocking each other. I elaborated on my above points. you can have social dysphoria but little or no physical dysphoria. you can have moderate to severe dysphoria about your secondary sex characteristics and it doesn’t necessarily mean “hating your body.” someone who has already transitioned can be “non-dysphoric” because their dysphoria lessened or completely went away after transitioning. it’s not the same thing as having never been dysphoric—ie being cis.

and that was the end of that debate because we were both in agreement that you need gender dysphoria in order to be trans. you need a disconnect between your birth sex and the gender you [are/identify as/however I word this yall are gonna complain so just take your pick] in order to be transgender. that’s literally it. you don’t need to hate yourself, your existence doesn’t need to be constant suffering, you don’t need to medically transition, you don’t need to be gender conforming, you don’t have to “look or act a certain way.” you literally just need gender dysphoria. 

like half of yall don’t actually think you can be trans without gender dysphoria, you’re just choosing to skew the meaning of words in order to stir up drama.

if tucutes actually had dysphoria (or even just an ounce of empathy and human decency) then they’d understand why making fun of a trans guy for having big lips, calling a trans woman ugly as fuck, or just generally mocking and belittling trans people (or anyone, for that matter) for their appearance is a really shitty thing to do. just saying.

if gender was a social construct then trans people wouldn’t exist! if words and in particular pronouns weren’t gendered then there’d be no such thing as misgendering! tucute rhetoric is just transphobia masquerading as inclusivity and acceptance!

tucutes: only trans people are allowed to have opinions on trans discourse.

also tucutes: trans people who don’t agree with me on trans discourse are transphobic.

official-transsexual:

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dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

A little term I thought of after reading a lot of trans resources on this site: 

Cis-Passing Savior. 

Part of speech: noun. 

Definition: Trans* person who tells other trans people what to do. Often makes sweeping generalizations and assumptions about others’ appearances, abilities, or bodies, and makes “passing guides” pandering exclusively to cis standards. 

They will likely deflect any time they are accused of being problematic, often defending themselves by saying that they aren’t forcing anyone into anything despite often implying at every turn that not “passing” as cisgender is somehow shameful. 

Particularly common in the transmasculine community on Tumblr, these individuals see it as their moral obligation to ensure the survival of cissexism and insecurity in the next generation. They consider their actions to be necessary and helpful. (If you think you’re doing trans men a favor by telling them how to “pass”, you are a Cis-Passing Savior. If you think it is your duty to correct or advise young men on “passing” as their actual gender, you are a Cis-Passing Savior.)

Example: 

Guy 1: “Uh, Man101 just told me I need to change my hairstyle.” 

Guy 2: “Because they think you look ‘like a lesbian’? Forget about it, man. He’s a Cis-Passing Savior. There’s nothing wrong with how you are.” 

What the fuck dude… I don’t know any real trans person that doesn’t want to pass.

Why hello, it’s nice to meet you! 

Judging from your tagging this post as “transtrenders” and the general vibe of your blog, I’m going to first of all issue a big old YIKES, but after doing that I’d really like to have a little talk about this. 

What exactly do you define as a “real trans person”? Is it dysphoria-based? I only ask because I know a lot of transmedicalists base their definitions on that. Now, I take issue with that personally because ‘transgender’ is an umbrella term that encompasses pretty much any identity that isn’t cis. I’m not here to argue with you about that though, that’s not what my blog is about and I don’t want to get off-topic :) 

Anyway, I shouldn’t have to do this because it is none of your goddamn business BUT, even by your definition (which I am assuming is dysphoria-based, do correct me if I am wrong though!) I am a “real trans person” (dear god, that hurt to type.). I feel dysphoria everywhere, about everything, pretty much all the time. By which I mean I have top (general term; chest and shoulders), bottom (general term), voice, height, face/hands/whatever else, and social dysphoria and often to extreme degrees. It’s awfully presumptuous of you to assume that just because I’m speaking against cissexism that I’m not dysphoric or not trans! 

I don’t want to “pass” because I consider the standard unfair. It imposes cis (in my case) masculinity as the only acceptable norm, and that’s not something I can physically conform to. I don’t think I should be expected to live for the sole purpose of being perceived as palatable, appropriate, passable in the eyes of cis people. It’s just not my jam. 

I feel like I deserve to be respected as the guy I am regardless of how I look. Maybe you disagree, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to force your standard of cis-passing appearance on other trans people. 

I never ment that you yourself are a transtrender, but what I do mean is that all trans men want to look like men. Not saying you can’t be feminine but don’t to want to pass as male? To be seen as a man in society? Even if it’s as a feminine man? If you look female you Will get dysphoric. That’s why we try to pass. Not because “”“cissexism”“. It’s because if we don’t we will mentally break down. If a trans man wants to wear a dress I have no issue (although i have no idea why he would pre t) but if a ”“”“trans man” shows off his tits? He’s probably not dysphoric and therefore not trans.

Did. You. Even. Read. What I said. 

Sorry, I guess I was too ambiguous. I do want to be seen as a man by society, but I don’t want (nor will I ever be able) to pass as cis. The whole point of my post was that the standard of “passing” is unfair to trans people, and that they should be respected as their actual gender regardless of whether they look cis or not. Leaving body dysphoria out of this conversation for the most part. (Though, again, it is damn presumptuous of you to assume you know about any other person’s dysphoria.) 

But trans people want to be cis! Any real trans person wishes they were cis… And why can’t you ever pass? If you go on hormones you should be able to pass. I pass and I’m pre everything…

No, they don’t! I’m here, a real trans person, and I don’t want to be cis. And that’s… Not really any of your business BUT I’m chronically ill and can’t make all the same alterations to my body that other people can… That’s just such an audacious question to begin with though, holy fuck. You’re a trip, man. 

Why are you so insistent that your own experience must be universal? 

Why would you want to be trans?? It’s hell! If you truly have dysphoria you should know that!

Dude. I never said dysphoria wasn’t unpleasant, it sure as fuck is! But just because I don’t hate the fact that I’m trans doesn’t mean I don’t have dysphoria. There’s just more to transness than dysphoria for me. 

There’s also the incredibly euphoric feelings I get in those rare moments when I feel like I’m truly myself, the radical liberation of complete self-acceptance, and those warm tinglies I get from hearing the right pronouns. I couldn’t experience any of this in the same way if I was cis. Not making transness out to be some sort of blessing or anything, but it’s not a curse either and I don’t like seeing people equivalate the existence of dysphoria with the necessity for self-loathing. 

the existence of dysphoria =/= the necessity for self-loathing. Dysphoria and self-loathing, be they from internalized transphobia or other sources, are two separate issues and need to be addressed on their own. 

I used to wish I was cis all the time, but guess what? I’m not. It doesn’t matter! And it’s none of your, or anyone else’s goddamn business whether I “pass” your little tests. Cis isn’t the ideal I’m striving for, euphoria is. 

(also thanks for the example to refer to next time I mention Cis-Passing Saviors btw, you just made my weekend a lot easier!) 

*bird kisses* 

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

A little term I thought of after reading a lot of trans resources on this site: 

Cis-Passing Savior. 

Part of speech: noun. 

Definition: Trans* person who tells other trans people what to do. Often makes sweeping generalizations and assumptions about others’ appearances, abilities, or bodies, and makes “passing guides” pandering exclusively to cis standards. 

They will likely deflect any time they are accused of being problematic, often defending themselves by saying that they aren’t forcing anyone into anything despite often implying at every turn that not “passing” as cisgender is somehow shameful. 

Particularly common in the transmasculine community on Tumblr, these individuals see it as their moral obligation to ensure the survival of cissexism and insecurity in the next generation. They consider their actions to be necessary and helpful. (If you think you’re doing trans men a favor by telling them how to “pass”, you are a Cis-Passing Savior. If you think it is your duty to correct or advise young men on “passing” as their actual gender, you are a Cis-Passing Savior.)

Example: 

Guy 1: “Uh, Man101 just told me I need to change my hairstyle.” 

Guy 2: “Because they think you look ‘like a lesbian’? Forget about it, man. He’s a Cis-Passing Savior. There’s nothing wrong with how you are.” 

What the fuck dude… I don’t know any real trans person that doesn’t want to pass.

Why hello, it’s nice to meet you! 

Judging from your tagging this post as “transtrenders” and the general vibe of your blog, I’m going to first of all issue a big old YIKES, but after doing that I’d really like to have a little talk about this. 

What exactly do you define as a “real trans person”? Is it dysphoria-based? I only ask because I know a lot of transmedicalists base their definitions on that. Now, I take issue with that personally because ‘transgender’ is an umbrella term that encompasses pretty much any identity that isn’t cis. I’m not here to argue with you about that though, that’s not what my blog is about and I don’t want to get off-topic :) 

Anyway, I shouldn’t have to do this because it is none of your goddamn business BUT, even by your definition (which I am assuming is dysphoria-based, do correct me if I am wrong though!) I am a “real trans person” (dear god, that hurt to type.). I feel dysphoria everywhere, about everything, pretty much all the time. By which I mean I have top (general term; chest and shoulders), bottom (general term), voice, height, face/hands/whatever else, and social dysphoria and often to extreme degrees. It’s awfully presumptuous of you to assume that just because I’m speaking against cissexism that I’m not dysphoric or not trans! 

I don’t want to “pass” because I consider the standard unfair. It imposes cis (in my case) masculinity as the only acceptable norm, and that’s not something I can physically conform to. I don’t think I should be expected to live for the sole purpose of being perceived as palatable, appropriate, passable in the eyes of cis people. It’s just not my jam. 

I feel like I deserve to be respected as the guy I am regardless of how I look. Maybe you disagree, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to force your standard of cis-passing appearance on other trans people. 

I never ment that you yourself are a transtrender, but what I do mean is that all trans men want to look like men. Not saying you can’t be feminine but don’t to want to pass as male? To be seen as a man in society? Even if it’s as a feminine man? If you look female you Will get dysphoric. That’s why we try to pass. Not because “”“cissexism”“. It’s because if we don’t we will mentally break down. If a trans man wants to wear a dress I have no issue (although i have no idea why he would pre t) but if a ”“”“trans man” shows off his tits? He’s probably not dysphoric and therefore not trans.

Did. You. Even. Read. What I said. 

Sorry, I guess I was too ambiguous. I do want to be seen as a man by society, but I don’t want (nor will I ever be able) to pass as cis. The whole point of my post was that the standard of “passing” is unfair to trans people, and that they should be respected as their actual gender regardless of whether they look cis or not. Leaving body dysphoria out of this conversation for the most part. (Though, again, it is damn presumptuous of you to assume you know about any other person’s dysphoria.) 

But trans people want to be cis! Any real trans person wishes they were cis… And why can’t you ever pass? If you go on hormones you should be able to pass. I pass and I’m pre everything…

No, they don’t! I’m here, a real trans person, and I don’t want to be cis. And that’s… Not really any of your business BUT I’m chronically ill and can’t make all the same alterations to my body that other people can… That’s just such an audacious question to begin with though, holy fuck. You’re a trip, man. 

Why are you so insistent that your own experience must be universal? 

yourekillingmockingbirds:

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

A little term I thought of after reading a lot of trans resources on this site: 

Cis-Passing Savior. 

Part of speech: noun. 

Definition: Trans* person who tells other trans people what to do. Often makes sweeping generalizations and assumptions about others’ appearances, abilities, or bodies, and makes “passing guides” pandering exclusively to cis standards. 

They will likely deflect any time they are accused of being problematic, often defending themselves by saying that they aren’t forcing anyone into anything despite often implying at every turn that not “passing” as cisgender is somehow shameful. 

Particularly common in the transmasculine community on Tumblr, these individuals see it as their moral obligation to ensure the survival of cissexism and insecurity in the next generation. They consider their actions to be necessary and helpful. (If you think you’re doing trans men a favor by telling them how to “pass”, you are a Cis-Passing Savior. If you think it is your duty to correct or advise young men on “passing” as their actual gender, you are a Cis-Passing Savior.)

Example: 

Guy 1: “Uh, Man101 just told me I need to change my hairstyle.” 

Guy 2: “Because they think you look ‘like a lesbian’? Forget about it, man. He’s a Cis-Passing Savior. There’s nothing wrong with how you are.” 

What the fuck dude… I don’t know any real trans person that doesn’t want to pass.

Why hello, it’s nice to meet you! 

Judging from your tagging this post as “transtrenders” and the general vibe of your blog, I’m going to first of all issue a big old YIKES, but after doing that I’d really like to have a little talk about this. 

What exactly do you define as a “real trans person”? Is it dysphoria-based? I only ask because I know a lot of transmedicalists base their definitions on that. Now, I take issue with that personally because ‘transgender’ is an umbrella term that encompasses pretty much any identity that isn’t cis. I’m not here to argue with you about that though, that’s not what my blog is about and I don’t want to get off-topic :) 

Anyway, I shouldn’t have to do this because it is none of your goddamn business BUT, even by your definition (which I am assuming is dysphoria-based, do correct me if I am wrong though!) I am a “real trans person” (dear god, that hurt to type.). I feel dysphoria everywhere, about everything, pretty much all the time. By which I mean I have top (general term; chest and shoulders), bottom (general term), voice, height, face/hands/whatever else, and social dysphoria and often to extreme degrees. It’s awfully presumptuous of you to assume that just because I’m speaking against cissexism that I’m not dysphoric or not trans! 

I don’t want to “pass” because I consider the standard unfair. It imposes cis (in my case) masculinity as the only acceptable norm, and that’s not something I can physically conform to. I don’t think I should be expected to live for the sole purpose of being perceived as palatable, appropriate, passable in the eyes of cis people. It’s just not my jam. 

I feel like I deserve to be respected as the guy I am regardless of how I look. Maybe you disagree, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to force your standard of cis-passing appearance on other trans people. 

I never ment that you yourself are a transtrender, but what I do mean is that all trans men want to look like men. Not saying you can’t be feminine but don’t to want to pass as male? To be seen as a man in society? Even if it’s as a feminine man? If you look female you Will get dysphoric. That’s why we try to pass. Not because “”“cissexism”“. It’s because if we don’t we will mentally break down. If a trans man wants to wear a dress I have no issue (although i have no idea why he would pre t) but if a ”“”“trans man” shows off his tits? He’s probably not dysphoric and therefore not trans.

Did. You. Even. Read. What I said. 

Sorry, I guess I was too ambiguous. I do want to be seen as a man by society, but I don’t want (nor will I ever be able) to pass as cis. The whole point of my post was that the standard of “passing” is unfair to trans people, and that they should be respected as their actual gender regardless of whether they look cis or not. Leaving body dysphoria out of this conversation for the most part. (Though, again, it is damn presumptuous of you to assume you know about any other person’s dysphoria.) 

Also, just thought I’d add to this now that I’ve cleared my soul a bit — 

I’ve got a lot of issues with that response to be honest. First off, I wasn’t defending myself against the possibility of being called a “transtrender”. I just wanted to give myself some twisted validity in this guy’s eyes so he’d listen to me, but that ended up coming out kind of weird, so I just thought I’d throw out there for clarity: “Transtrenders” aren’t real, fuck off. 

And also the bit that says “even as a feminine man”, that struck a funky nerve. I don’t think I said anything about my presentation being feminine, which means I’m being taken out of context and, again, this guy is presuming an awful lot. And, first of all, just to get this out of the way, there is nothing wrong with being feminine, but I don’t consider myself particularly so? Nor would most people, I don’t think. Campy, sure, but not particularly feminine. I wear ‘men’s’ clothes most of the time and don’t do heavily gendered activities for the most part.* 

That’s literally not even what I meant at all.  I was talking specifically about my appearance as relating to my illnesses and disabilities. Just… Presumptuous. 

*And even if I wore makeup and skirts and push-up bras every day I’d still be trans, kay. My presentation doesn’t determine my dysphoria even, let alone my gender. 

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

dysphoric-men-help:

yourekillingmockingbirds:

A little term I thought of after reading a lot of trans resources on this site: 

Cis-Passing Savior. 

Part of speech: noun. 

Definition: Trans* person who tells other trans people what to do. Often makes sweeping generalizations and assumptions about others’ appearances, abilities, or bodies, and makes “passing guides” pandering exclusively to cis standards. 

They will likely deflect any time they are accused of being problematic, often defending themselves by saying that they aren’t forcing anyone into anything despite often implying at every turn that not “passing” as cisgender is somehow shameful. 

Particularly common in the transmasculine community on Tumblr, these individuals see it as their moral obligation to ensure the survival of cissexism and insecurity in the next generation. They consider their actions to be necessary and helpful. (If you think you’re doing trans men a favor by telling them how to “pass”, you are a Cis-Passing Savior. If you think it is your duty to correct or advise young men on “passing” as their actual gender, you are a Cis-Passing Savior.)

Example: 

Guy 1: “Uh, Man101 just told me I need to change my hairstyle.” 

Guy 2: “Because they think you look ‘like a lesbian’? Forget about it, man. He’s a Cis-Passing Savior. There’s nothing wrong with how you are.” 

What the fuck dude… I don’t know any real trans person that doesn’t want to pass.

Why hello, it’s nice to meet you! 

Judging from your tagging this post as “transtrenders” and the general vibe of your blog, I’m going to first of all issue a big old YIKES, but after doing that I’d really like to have a little talk about this. 

What exactly do you define as a “real trans person”? Is it dysphoria-based? I only ask because I know a lot of transmedicalists base their definitions on that. Now, I take issue with that personally because ‘transgender’ is an umbrella term that encompasses pretty much any identity that isn’t cis. I’m not here to argue with you about that though, that’s not what my blog is about and I don’t want to get off-topic :) 

Anyway, I shouldn’t have to do this because it is none of your goddamn business BUT, even by your definition (which I am assuming is dysphoria-based, do correct me if I am wrong though!) I am a “real trans person” (dear god, that hurt to type.). I feel dysphoria everywhere, about everything, pretty much all the time. By which I mean I have top (general term; chest and shoulders), bottom (general term), voice, height, face/hands/whatever else, and social dysphoria and often to extreme degrees. It’s awfully presumptuous of you to assume that just because I’m speaking against cissexism that I’m not dysphoric or not trans! 

I don’t want to “pass” because I consider the standard unfair. It imposes cis (in my case) masculinity as the only acceptable norm, and that’s not something I can physically conform to. I don’t think I should be expected to live for the sole purpose of being perceived as palatable, appropriate, passable in the eyes of cis people. It’s just not my jam. 

I feel like I deserve to be respected as the guy I am regardless of how I look. Maybe you disagree, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to force your standard of cis-passing appearance on other trans people. 

I never ment that you yourself are a transtrender, but what I do mean is that all trans men want to look like men. Not saying you can’t be feminine but don’t to want to pass as male? To be seen as a man in society? Even if it’s as a feminine man? If you look female you Will get dysphoric. That’s why we try to pass. Not because “”“cissexism”“. It’s because if we don’t we will mentally break down. If a trans man wants to wear a dress I have no issue (although i have no idea why he would pre t) but if a ”“”“trans man” shows off his tits? He’s probably not dysphoric and therefore not trans.

Did. You. Even. Read. What I said. 

Sorry, I guess I was too ambiguous. I do want to be seen as a man by society, but I don’t want (nor will I ever be able) to pass as cis. The whole point of my post was that the standard of “passing” is unfair to trans people, and that they should be respected as their actual gender regardless of whether they look cis or not. Leaving body dysphoria out of this conversation for the most part. (Though, again, it is damn presumptuous of you to assume you know about any other person’s dysphoria.) 

Thinkin about those day when I used to be a transmed..

Why tf was I convinced to join a group of people that 1) have repeated the WRONG definition of gender dysphoria multiple times, and 2) don’t even have a set in requirement of gender dysphoria (like, how bad must your dysphoria be to qualify as trans? Is a little dysphoria enough, or does it have to be severe?)?????

All I see are children running around, spouting pure garbage from their mouths and hoping that it’ll sound “scientific” enough. 

Like a flat-earther not having a set model for their earth, transmeds can’t even negotiate how much dysphoria makes a trans person “trans”, let alone define it properly. Sad!

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