I don’t know about the rest of you, mbti bloggers, but I’m sick of having to scroll down through countless of personal posts on the mbti tags in order to finally find a good post. Fandoms were smart enough to create tags to track specific content for them to reblog without spending hours going down a tag, so why not implement this idea to the MBTI community? Not only will this make our blogging more effective but it will also help anyone who doesn’t have an MBTI blog but wants to access educative posts (or for those who prefer it, memes) about their type more easily. Here are the tags I’ve come up with:
mbtitag: any post of any kind (either informative or ‘types as’ ‘mtl likely’ etc) related to the mbti community
for specific types, add ‘tag’ after the type. ex: istptag
for specific functions, add ‘tag’ after the function. ex: nitag
16tag: for posts aimed at all types
mbtitheory: if post has educational purposes
mbtimisc: if post is ‘types as’ + ‘mtl likely’ + meme + any post with entertainment purposes
I hope enough people make use of this system for it to work! Please, if you do, only use these tags if suitable. If your post is personal or not aimed at the MBTI community (aka created to be either informative or reblogged) DO NOT use the tags. This is meant to make people’s blogging as fast and effective as possible.
CLARIFICATION: You don’t have to use it as your tag system for all of your posts! You can still use your current tag system, the only thing you have to do for this idea to succeed is to use these tags among the 5 first tags in the ORIGINAL posts that you want people to see (not just any post). You can keep using your system simultaneously!
ESTP, ISTP: Their attitude may be found annoying/cunning or whatever towards other people who might then start talking shit behind them. And when they find out, they’re gonna start some shitttttt
ENTJ, ESTJ: They exist…… :l
ESFP, ENFP: Have so many friendships that they end up being friends with people who are enemies with each other, which ends up backfiring.
INFJ, ISFJ, ISTJ, ESFJ: They don’t. Unless you hurt their loved ones, in that case, run.
ENFJ, INTJ: Because it’s fun……
INFP, ISFP: They’re emotions cause them to do weird shit and inevitably hurt other people or hurt themselves (send help asap)
ENTP, INTP: They get bored and decide to start up drama cuz why not
INFP:The guy who is listening to some depressing or motivational song and murmurs the song lyrics while starring into the window and thinking about life
ENFP:The guy who gets your soul out into a conversation and then falls asleep for 3 hours.
ESFP:The friendly guy who talks to you during the whole flight and makes you a bit uncomfortable but you decide to keep talking cause they’re pretty cool.
INTP:The one who practices what to say to the flight attendant cause he/she doesn’t want to make it awkward.
INFJ:Stares into the window while they think about some deep shit and is annoyed by the ESFP who is yelling in the seat behind them.
ESTP: *sleeps for 16 hours* wakes up in a motel in Thailand with a tattoo on his/her forehead…..
ISFP: Suffers an emotional breakdown because the flight attendant misunderstood their order and he/she is too shy to say anything.
ISTP: Gets drunk on the airplane and wakes up next to ESTP and has ‘YOLO’ tattooed in his/her back.
ISTJ:Involuntarily helps ISFP through their emotional breakdown and secretly hates the pilot because he woke him/her up from a beautiful nap.
ENTP: Gets upset cause they made a dope playlist on their phone and then forgot their earphones and ends up (surprisingly) getting drunk with ISTP.
ISFJ: Starts a conversation with a sweet elderly man and become best friends.
ENTJ: Gets into a fight with the flight attendant because it’s not allowed to check Tumblr on the flight ;)
ESTJ: *argues along with ENTJ* and rants about the disgusting food in the plane before falling asleep and dreaming about cheeseburgers.
INTJ:Has to go to the bathroom but doesn’t want to ask the person beside them to get up because they’re crying for some emotional problem that INTJ is uncomfortable talking about.
ESFJ: Missed the plane, ends up staying at home watching some dope show and almost chokes on popcorn because they were laughing too hard at some cat food commercial
ENFJ: Makes a best friend in the flight and is heartbroken because they will never see eachother again. 5 minutes later they make another friend. :p
(this is based on my experiences lmao don’t kill me if its not 100% accurate)
ENTJ, INTJ: Either doesn’t have time for that shit because school is more important OR completely fucks up people’s lives cuz…. fun.
INTP: Either doesn’t give a rats ass OR low-key makes a plan to fuck shit up
ENTP: Is involved in the drama but honestly doesn’t give a fuck how it turns out
ESTP: Reallyyyyy doesn’t give a fuck but might ocationally just sit back and watch how shit goes down
ESFP: Might be near/be the center of the drama and either tries to sort things out or just slowly fucks shit up due to their attitude
ISFP: Also might be near the center of attention and inevitably gets fucked over but still finds a way to rise on top of it.
ESTJ, ENFJ: Probably in the center of the drama just fucking things up like always lmao
INFP:Is also involved but either falls into depression because all the drama got to them OR gets adrenaline for like 5 minutes and roasts the fuck out of everyone who ever did them wrong
ENFP: Involved in drama due to their friendships, tries to work things out for a while but if shit gets too deep they FUCKK things up cuz they low-key want to.
ISFJ, INFJ: Is too mature for it and just tries to sort things out
ESFJ:Doesn’t care just wants to have fun (but if u fuck with the ESFJ they’ll fuck you over using all of his/her friendships)
ISTP, ISTJ: Gives less fucks of all, probably studying or doing whatever ISTJ/Ps do (sorry I am an ENFP idk what u guys do lmao
Definitely an ENFP. He’s definitely very extroverted, constantly being around people and his friends and before going into stasis. He thrives off of interacting with other people. Definitely intuitive, constantly thinking outside the box, his N function makes him very streetsmart. Feeler without a doubt, he values his feelings and instincts more than his logicical side. And P, he’s very spontaneous and acts on a whim pretty much all the time. ENFPs are usually free spirits, who are usually outgoing, open minded and open hearted. Which sums up Dave a lot.
Next Arnold,
ISTJ
Although he wanted friends, he still would rather spend time by himself studying or doing his own hobbies, and got more of his energy from being alone than being with other people. He’s definitely a senser, very literal and methodical, and by the book. He always valued his logic and facts over his emotions, making him more of a thinker than a feeler. And J, again very by the book and valuing being organised, and always criticised Lister for being his spontaneous self. ISTJs are as a whole by the book, dutiful and like to enforce order, whilst also can be stubborn and insensitive at times. And I think that sums up Arnold Rimmer very well. I also like how he’s the complete opposite personality type to Dave, which works very well.
Kryten
ISFJ
I think he’s a bit of an ambivert, but definitely more introverted. He’s completely fine with being alone for hundreds of years, and doesn’t really get lonely. He’s definitely sensing, due to his robot side most likely. Always attentive to facts and details and completing things methodically. Lister’s influence has definitely made him a feeler, he does value logic, but he values his empathy and emotions a lot more later in the series. He’s more of a Judging than Percieving definitely, again always being organised and methodical, and works systematically.
xSTP
Alright now hear me out-
Firstly, it’s actually very hard to decide if he’s an introvert or extrovert. He was completely fine being alone for years, he seemed quite unbothered by the other cats abandoning him. And he doesn’t seem to miss them. But also, he’s very loud and outspoken, and thrives off of attention, which isn’t an introverted thing exactly. He’s constantly trying to attract women towards him, but arguably he is a cat and that’s just what cats do. I think people are too quick to label cat as an extrovert just because he’s loud, when actually he goes off on his own and does his own thing a lot, and randomly comes back whenever just like a cat does. He has both introverted and extroverted traits, and I think it’s very hard to decide which one he actually is if you think about it. In season 1 it took a lot of time for him to warm up to people.
I think sensing, as he is a cat and not really human it’s very hard to place him. But I think he’s more of an S than N, as sensors are normally very in the present, and normally rely on their 5 senses and what they already know. Which is more what cat is. Now, I think cat is more of a T than F. People seem to place cat as an F because “cat is so dumb! He’s definitely not a thinker” when that’s not really what it means. I just can’t really see cat as a feeler when he doesn’t value feelings and doesn’t feel a wide range of emotions often. He’s quite self centered, especially at the beginning, doesn’t care about anyone except himself. Feelers are normally sympathetic and regard feelings, but cat isn’t like that at all. In fact, it’s very hard to see cat as either a thinker or a feeler quite honestly. But, it’s worth saying thinkers aren’t always very smart completely logical robot people. You’d be surprised by how much cat does use his brain and logic instead of his emotions. Lister’s lying on the floor? Well he’s in no state to give cat food so cat doesn’t care. That’s definitely more of a thinker thing. I think P is definitely the easiest one to place him in. He’s constantly spontaneous and just does whatever he wants whenever he feels like it. Not much explanation needed there. This was a long one but I think this definitely needed explaining the most as people are very quick to type cat as an ESFP.
Thought I’d do ace too because he seems to be misplaced a lot in my opinion.
ENFJ
So many people type this man as an ESTP and I can’t see it at all. “But he does so many extreme things!” It’s, his job. And it’s not only ESTPs who can like doing extreme things. Extroverted is obvious, he gets his energy from being around others, and he’s around others constantly. I think he’s more intuitive than sensing definitely, he’s very creative and uses intuition a lot, and is very imaginative. He comes up with all sorts of creative ideas to get out of bad situations. I seriously don’t get how people can put him as a T over an F. He’s such a feeler, very warm and empathetic and genuinely really loves his friends and fans. He values his feelings a lot, very much like Dave. I’d say he’s a J, and I like the thought that this is the only trait he shares with the other Arnold. He definitely values deadlines and scheduling, he literally schedules all his plans in the first episode he’s in. I can see why people think he’s a P, but I think people don’t realise he seems spontaneous due to his job, but actually he’s just following orders. He’s such an ENFJ, they’re usually good natural leaders, charismatic and very empathetic, normally helping the people around them a lot. That’s EXACTLY how Ace is. I like to think he’s very similar to Dave but shares one trait with Arnold, I think that fits him well.
Anyway, these are my thoughts. Interested to know anyone else’s.
I learnt overtime that I realize my own predictions. Repeat the same process and hope that things will miraculously turn right. I live with this consciousness of stupidity, taught myself to be void of emotions so I will never get hurt. In return it’s a sense of emptiness that consumes every other aspect of self.
This talk of all or nothing, no return is for if I do come back with less of myself, I can think about not losing the whole. I do not deserve to think that I have problems and issues because they are relative terms. How do you fight both sides of a war and still lose? (A reader brought up this statement awhile ago. I am afraid I don’t have an answer, or maybe I am too coward to commit to one)
I am not sure when I started preferring cowardice over failure, emptiness over turbulence, pity over aggression. I don’t plan on fixing them and I don’t want to be fixed. This stubbornness chases my consciousness around. By now I’ve written myself into contradiction so I will just leave it at this.
What are some different versions of the INFJ personality type?
INFJ’s shadow side: darkness and anger
In the unlikely event you have betrayed an INFJ, cut deeply through their hearts then watch out - because nothing is more frightening than seeing one get their all. Afterall, Jesus was apparently an model INFJ. That’s right. Beware the scorch. You get him angry and he’ll go locust on your arse.
Of course, everything below is ‘worst case under-developed’ INFJ anger cases. It isn’t what INFJ’s do all the time. It is, extremely rare. Most have the patience of an iceberg waiting for hell to freeze over. Or a turn the other cheek style. But for those of you who want some insight into the darker, shadier side of an INFJ …venture down below, i dare you. — INFJ Anger style: The incorruptible ninja on a vendetta:
It means facing your fears and exposing the grittiness of your own human existence. Sound familiar INFJ? Okay, it sounds like martyr-dom and yes, it is. An INFJ knows ALL about martyrdom.
In extremely threatening cases, an INFJ can go all angry ninja style on anybody’s arse. And i mean emotionally. They will cut you up and hang you out to dry. Emotionally. That is the key word here.
He we won’t stop until he’s wasted your emotional landscape, and neither will we. INFj’s at their weakest or best can be like double edged swords, yes we can see deep into people’s hearts, their motivations their good qualities, mirror their thoughts, actions and their desires to bring you relief or joy. INFJ’s listen not only with their ears, but with their heart, they can process and nurture people’s good qualities instinctively and mirror your what you want to hear. They are capable of forgiveness even of those with heinous crimes on their records, because yes - they know instinctively that everybody is human, all of us are interconnected and we all make mistakes, an INFJ has an uncanny ability to recognize that everybody is just a mirror of themselves. The best INFJ’s carry a karmic awareness at all times.
However, INFJ’s can also see through people’s weaknesses, their motivations, their dark sides and their 'secrets’ if you will, we watch carefully how they treat strangers with ill will, and notice if they treat their friends with kindness or if they are self serving. With that knowledge they back it up like a hard drive. They remember. How they use that information, is up to them. That choice, is what makes them grow or go backwards.
God forbid anybody come across an INFJ, hell or highwater because once you cross them - at best they will drop you like a hot pan and dissappear regardless of how long you’ve known them. At worst, be prepared for having all your insecurities and fears gutted and exposed. And they make sure you remember. They can dive deep into your heart to inspire you, but like that double edged sword they can cut straight into your heart with their words. They tell you the truth exactly as it is, whilst you are still grappling with the fact they knew how you felt all along, they expose all your ugliest motivations to air and for all to see. INFJ’s are adept at understanding the language of the human heart and what it wants and needs on an intangible level. They are expert emotional anthropologists. They understand boundaries and will not tell people how you feel, what is on your mind. This is because they know this information is precious, of course… until the shit hits the fan so to speak and then, they reveal everything about you. The ugly you. Every. Ugly. Detail.
They get under your skin and let loose slowly and methodically (yep, there’s that organization in action) anything they know about your weaknesses, everything they use turns it a kind of melodramatic piece of theatre relaying everything from your sexual indiscretions, faults, lack of listening skills and weaving it expertly by making sure every one of your emotional weaknesses are exploited. They hone in on your fears at the present moment and creatively exploit them for full effect, targeting fears, anxieties, guilt and expertly play them like a symphony. They understand the darkness in themselves and they recognize it in you.
Hell hath no fury like an INFJ scorned. Subtle, slow and insidioius is the scorned style of an INFJ. They can get creative with their scorn - they might have the dignity and coldness of a queen while they exploit your weaknesses. They personally tailor each and every remark for full emotional effect. They may tell you calmly and caustically why you cheated them and explain your insecurities in front of a large group of intimate friends whilst you sweat, hiding their motives behind dry wit and humour. They will adjust their level of scorn for whatever is appropriate for your character. If it’s a quick, derisive comment or a long confession of your insecurities - they will know which button to press to get to your heart. If it’s guilt they want to summon, they know what to say to make you feel it, they’ll remember an event or a whisper of an insecurity you have and they will bring it up. They remember the nuances in your dialogue, your emotional landscape - they remember your weaknesses and in an organized (judging) manner, categorically shoot each and every one of them down till they are satisfied you have sated their need for justice.
The scariness (or genius) of an INFJ however lies in the fact that they know how to adjust the temperature of their perceived hurt so that the other person feels the full effect of their remarks. Just as they can easily take the emotional temperature of a room just by walking into it, they know that getting completely angry is ineffective. So they manage their delivery intuitively, depending on your character so that the recipient has no room to retaliate - an INFJ instincitively knows if they expose a certain insecurity in you and say something softly, it is more effective than going completely a-wohl. They skirt over your anger and any issues they know will completely provoke you to not listening at all. They want to expose the truth, come hell or high water and if that means you feel reduced to something like a small child - totally exposed and a little humiliated, so be it. They will broach the topic carefully, throw in a caustic remark - you might not be able to retaliate to because the topic for you is so personal. It is completely tactical. They want to expose you remember, so they think carefully about the delivery of a remark and it’s intention before it comes out.
You know that secret you told them when you first met them with an open heart and open mind? If you’ve deeply betrayed them, they will remember it, bring it up and flippantly tell you they weren’t really listening, and they didn’t really care for it if that’s what it takes to hurt you.
The purpose? The truth of course. The phrase, 'Shed light on your sorry ass’, has never been more apt.
This is the darkness and shadow of an INFJ.
On one hand, the capacities described here can be unhealthy INFJ behavior. On the other hand, my perspective is that they aren’t unhealthy when one is dealing with, say, an abuser or a sociopath.
I’ve only ever had to take one person down using my capacity to systematically uncover and tell them (that person) the truth about the ugly underneath their mask. My primary goal in that process was to stop the person from harming me. My secondary goal was to do everything I could to ensure that the person would be unable to harm others like me in the future.
I know I succeeded in the primary goal, and I do believe I also succeeded in the secondary one. I have no regrets about acting as I did. I think we should use these capacities if they are ever warranted. I hope that it is never warranted - but if/when the need does occur, IMO it’s not necessarily a bad thing that we can be dangerous when truly crossed by people who do harm.
This doesn’t have so much to do with any of this other then the shadow emerging in an INFJ discussion point. I’ve been wanting to share this song with PerCs for a while, and was waiting for the “appropriate” time. This obviously is not that time. But I’m sick of waiting, don’t want to make a thread, and the shadow topic is sort of relevant, depending on how you choose to interpret Maynard’s lyrics. Please enjoy. I hope you can see the dots I see connecting this all.
Excellent post, Kermi. I know this about myself. I hate the fact that I “gather information” on people like I do, and “back it up” like you said, but I do. That’s why I have always worked on controlling my anger, because, if I get angry enough, and someone pushes me past the whole “glare at you, and become deathly quiet” phase, then I can destroy someone with words, and alienate that person that hurt me, or made me angry.
I do what I can to love people, but rather than backing up information (I do that anyways, just subconsciously) and using it against them I like to attack them on the mental level by asking questions (haven’t had to yet). Why did you do that? Does it feel good to do that? To behave like that? Why do you feel the need to behave this way? Does it make you feel better than an animal? Does it honestly make you feel like a better human being? Don’t you feel that you’re better than that? Or are you better than that?
If there is a physical retaliation (haven’t had one yet) I plan to do what I can to defend myself depending on how the situation is. If it is simply a fight, then I will only do surface damage, but if my life is threatened then I plan on doing damage, possibly internally.
I’m rarely confronted by people who were initially so honest after seeing me lash out. The person that usually confronts me tells me that I choose such harsh words, and that I succeed in helping them assume a feeling of lowliness, guilt, ugliness, or a whole list of other negative things. They usually seem to be saying this against their will or even in tears… I’ve just made the person miserable.
To be blunt: I recount and retell each and every last thing that was done and I highlight all the mistakes and disadvantages of such. Wether I use cursing, crude language, or any derogatory remark is irrelevant. The way I present what I say is made with as much coherence as I can use to arrange the information and the conclusion is just as painful to hear.
Some people get hurt more than others, but I don’t think anybody wants to hear things like these… Sometimes somebody shows that they don’t care if about what I’m saying when I’m lashing out and I can’t really see it in their face or movement, but they were affected in a powerful and irreversible way, and the pattern of their behaviors towards me seems almost permanently altered. They will avoid me A LOT. They will hesitate to say things to me face to face but would rather say things behind my back. I got what I wished for: to be left alone; but it sucks!
I can’t forget the times this happened. I can’t forget who told me this, or who didn’t tell me this but showed me how terrible what I’ve said was. I remember how they told me, and I remember sensing how their aura that radiated outward seems to be going inward instead.
This is why I’d much rather withdraw and leave when I’m angry.
Original notes:
However, INFJ’s can also see through people’s weaknesses, their motivations, their dark sides and their 'secrets’ if you will, we watch carefully how they treat strangers with ill will, and notice if they treat their friends with kindness or if they are self serving. With that knowledge they back it up like a hard drive. They remember. How they use that information, is up to them. That choice, is what makes them grow or go backwards.
God forbid anybody come across an INFJ, hell or highwater because once you cross them - at best they will drop you like a hot pan and dissappear regardless of how long you’ve known them. At worst, be prepared for having all your insecurities and fears gutted and exposed. And they make sure you remember. They can dive deep into your heart to inspire you, but like that double edged sword they can cut straight into your heart with their words. They tell you the truth exactly as it is, whilst you are still grappling with the fact they knew how you felt all along, they expose all your ugliest motivations to air and for all to see. INFJ’s are adept at understanding the language of the human heart and what it wants and needs on an intangible level. They are expert emotional anthropologists. They understand boundaries and will not tell people how you feel, what is on your mind. This is because they know this information is precious, of course… until the shit hits the fan so to speak and then, they reveal everything about you. The ugly you. Every. Ugly. Detail.
They get under your skin and let loose slowly and methodically (yep, there’s that organization in action) anything they know about your weaknesses, everything they use turns it a kind of melodramatic piece of theatre relaying everything from your sexual indiscretions, faults, lack of listening skills and weaving it expertly by making sure every one of your emotional weaknesses are exploited. They hone in on your fears at the present moment and creatively exploit them for full effect, targeting fears, anxieties, guilt and expertly play them like a symphony. They understand the darkness in themselves and they recognize it in you.
Hell hath no fury like an INFJ scorned. Subtle, slow and insidioius is the scorned style of an INFJ. They can get creative with their scorn - they might have the dignity and coldness of a queen while they exploit your weaknesses. They personally tailor each and every remark for full emotional effect. They may tell you calmly and caustically why you cheated them and explain your insecurities in front of a large group of intimate friends whilst you sweat, hiding their motives behind dry wit and humour. They will adjust their level of scorn for whatever is appropriate for your character. If it’s a quick, derisive comment or a long confession of your insecurities - they will know which button to press to get to your heart. If it’s guilt they want to summon, they know what to say to make you feel it, they’ll remember an event or a whisper of an insecurity you have and they will bring it up. They remember the nuances in your dialogue, your emotional landscape - they remember your weaknesses and in an organized (judging) manner, categorically shoot each and every one of them down till they are satisfied you have sated their need for justice.
The scariness (or genius) of an INFJ however lies in the fact that they know how to adjust the temperature of their perceived hurt so that the other person feels the full effect of their remarks. Just as they can easily take the emotional temperature of a room just by walking into it, they know that getting completely angry is ineffective. So they manage their delivery intuitively, depending on your character so that the recipient has no room to retaliate - an INFJ instincitively knows if they expose a certain insecurity in you and say something softly, it is more effective than going completely a-wohl. They skirt over your anger and any issues they know will completely provoke you to not listening at all. They want to expose the truth, come hell or high water and if that means you feel reduced to something like a small child - totally exposed and a little humiliated, so be it. They will broach the topic carefully, throw in a caustic remark - you might not be able to retaliate to because the topic for you is so personal. It is completely tactical. They want to expose you remember, so they think carefully about the delivery of a remark and it’s intention before it comes out.
You know that secret you told them when you first met them with an open heart and open mind? If you’ve deeply betrayed them, they will remember it, bring it up and flippantly tell you they weren’t really listening, and they didn’t really care for it if that’s what it takes to hurt you.
The purpose? The truth of course. The phrase, 'Shed light on your sorry ass’, has never been more apt.
This is the darkness and shadow of an INFJ.
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Oh yes, I am familiar with this darkness all too well. Between a friend I had to leave for being too unstable and a sick INFJ mother, I’ve learned to actually train myself to deal with this hurt.
What these two have in common, for better or worse, is that almost nobody takes them seriously at this point. The fact of the matter is most INFJs dominated by their shadows are not well-liked people. Their destructive behavior will always be stopped sooner or later because nobody likes them. Well balanced and happy INFJs? Oh man, friends, lovers, and family like no other. Sick, shadow side ones? Disregarded by most people because they’re often seen as irrational.
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I’ve only ever truly raged out once and it was much more physical than this thread describes, but it was very much the same pouring tirade of caution-to-the-wind hate. I still count myself incredibly lucky that the man at whom it was directed wasn’t where I thought he’d be because I don’t know what I’d have done if I’d found him.
But I still think he’d have deserved it, so I have no idea if you’d call it unhealthy or not. I do know that a part of me takes pride in the show of aggression. I think that’s something all INFJs have inside us, a beast-like desire to rip apart the things that hurt us. I think that’s why we bring up topics like this. We’re proud of the vicious parts of ourselves. We paint them as weakness, but see them see them as strength. And we want to show off that strength.
1. From a young age, you felt different from the people around you
When you were young, you had plenty of friends but you never felt like you truly fit in. Sometimes you faked being more like them so they would accept you, but deep inside you felt that it’s not right.
2. You want to know what’s really going on in people’s lives
Not just trivial stuff like what they did this weekend or what they bought on their latest shopping trip. You want to dig deep and get at the things that no one else sees. What does the person in front of you really think? How does this person really feel? The fake facade they put up for other people doesn’t fool you.
3. Plans
You feel more comfortable having a loose plan for things than you do completely winging it.
4. You’re social, but you are not really social
You can be both incredibly shy, quiet, and withdrawn, as well as charming, fun, and hilarious. It’s all about the situation, your mood, and energy levels, and most important, the people you’re with.
5. How you handle problems
When someone comes to you with a problem, you usually don’t give them advice or your opinion unless they ask. Instead, you ask them questions to help them better understand the situation and their own feelings about it. Sometimes you tell a story of a time when something similar happened to you, in the hope that they’ll draw their own lesson. You feel like you can usually see the path they should take, but you don’t want them to do it just because you told them to. You want it to be their decision.
6. There are limits to your introversion
You are an introvert and you like alone time, but you can’t be alone for too long. Eventually you need to reunite with your people. “Your people” are a handful of good friends who truly get you. It can be just one person as well. Deep conversations with these people are priceless, and hanging out with them can actually boost your energy.
7. The door slam
You’ve been known to suddenly cut people out of your life when they’ve hurt you one too many times. It’s not that you enjoy cutting people out, rather, you do this simply to protect yourself. Even though you may look like you have it together on the outside, you’re extremely sensitive inwardly, and you’re especially sensitive to other people’s words and actions.
8. You can be a people-pleaser
Sometimes you try so hard to make other people happy that you forget to make yourself happy.
9. Empathy
You often feel like you see precisely what someone else is feeling, and you believe you know what they need deep down. You’re not always right, but you tend to be more perceptive than most.
10. You have a destiny
You feel like you’re destined for so much more than just dragging yourself to your 9-5 job to pay the bills. You want to help people and change the world & not just get a paycheck. The problem is you either don’t know what your “glorious purpose” is, or you have an inkling, but you don’t know how to achieve it.
11. Always striving
You almost always have this sinking feeling like you could be doing better with your life. This results in you constantly have secret self-improvement projects going on, like learning how to cook healthy meals, setting better boundaries, or getting better at articulating yourself. Sometimes you push yourself too hard as you attempt to achieve your “perfect” life.
12. Your defence mechanism
Sometimes you turn to people-pleasing to protect yourself. You’re sensitive, so you can get really bothered when someone criticizes you or is disappointed in you. They can’t criticize you if you make them happy.
13. You sense things
You often immediately sense the mood of a room when you walk into it. Likewise, you often absorb the feelings of the people around you. If they’re excited, you get excited. If they’re anxious, you get anxious, too. You tend to gravitate toward calm, centered people so you don’t have to deal with as much emotional garbage.
14. Nothing but class
You’re drawn to high-quality things, like good food, nice clothes, and anything else that has good craftsmanship. As much as you hate to admit it, the way things look is important to you. You like being surrounded by beauty, and you tend to have sophisticated, refined tastes. But you’re a minimalist at heart. You’d rather have one or two really nice shirts than ten mediocre ones.
15. Your secret feelings
You care deeply about the people in your life, but they’ll probably never know just how much you care, because you keep your feelings mostly to yourself. You can have trouble articulating your emotions, even though you feel them intensely.
16. You care a lot
You’re usually thoughtful, conscientious, and considerate. Other people who are not as conscientious can seem callous and even cruel.
17. Books
You love learning, especially when it comes to psychology, self-improvement, spirituality, and certain sciences.
18. Your head is way beyond the clouds
When everyone else is gossiping, discussing celebs, or talking about other trivial things, you often find yourself thinking about outer space, time travel, human nature, the meaning of life, and other more epic topics like entrepreneurship. You rarely try to steer the conversation in that direction, though, because you don’t think other people will be interested.
19. You didn’t ask to be like this
Other people see you as wise, insightful, and almost spiritual. They often come to you for advice and emotional support. You relish your role as the “wise one,” and you like being needed. But sometimes it becomes too much. You’re an introvert, for crying out loud, and sometimes you just wish everyone would solve their own problems and leave you alone for a while.
As can be seen in the chart, ISTJs very often mistype as INTjs. A lot of folks over on reddit’s r/INTJ chided people over being mistyped ISTJs.
I started reading about enneagram yesterday, and I think that enneagram may help explain why this happens so often.
Ennegram sorts people into 9 enneagram types, called 1, 2, 3, and so on. Each enneagram type resembles another type when growing and when under stress.
According to thought catalog, the most common enneagram for ISTJs is enneagram 1 at 37.5%.
Ones are conscientious and ethical, with a strong sense of right and wrong. They are teachers, crusaders, and advocates for change: always striving to improve things, but afraid of making a mistake. Well-organized, orderly, and fastidious, they try to maintain high standards, but can slip into being critical and perfectionistic.
INTJs often think of themselves as perfectionistic and willing to point out the flaws in systems. They are also known for the significance they put on their moral standards. This may make type 1 ISTJs think they are in fact INTJ.
Ones often persuade themselves that they are “head” types, rationalists who proceed only on logic and objective truth.
INTJs have a reputation of being heavily logical types, providing another opportunity for mistypes.
Ones have a “sense of mission” that leads them to want to improve the world in various ways, using whatever degree of influence they have.
ISTJs are stereotyped as people who want to preserve the status quo, as the quintessential conservative. 16 personalities, the most popular mbti site, calls ISTJs “conservative” and “by the books.” However, if you look to the enneagram, many type 1s seek to improve the world and are dissatisfied with the status quo, causing them to avoid the ISTJ label and instead think of themselves as INTJ.
*For the record, the whole stereotype of ISTJ being conservative is untrue, and especially so for political conservatism.
There is also the issue of enneagram stress.
If you look to the chart below that I stole from the enneagram site, we can see that 1s tend to act like 4s when under stress.
If we look at the description of enneagram type 4s, we can see the following:
Fours feel that they are unlike other human beings.
While enneagram 1s are under stress, they start to feel like they are unique. And in MBTI, when someone talks about being unique, it’s often the INFJ or INTJ types, the two most rare MBTI types at 1.5% and 2.1% respectively.
It is possible that many ISTJ type 1s who are under stress feel like 4s, and thus think that MBTI explains why they feel so different. Indeed, how can an ISTJ, being the most common type at 11.6% of the population, feel like no one understands them? They determine that their feelings of alienation make it impossible for them to be ISTJ and thus the type 1 ISTJ mistype as INTJ.
However, this is just an idea. Not every INTJ is a mistyped ISTJ. As always, cognitive function typing is the way to go. If you’re confused between ISTJ and INTj, read this article.
Im an enfp-a 7w8 sp 3w2 sx if anyone wanted to know
Proceeds to get an hour long lecture on why 16p isn’t a legitimate MBTI test and that the only way to accurately type yourself is to use cognitive functions and that 16p is actually a big 5 test in disguise and the myriad of problems lead to massive amounts of mistypes that are ultimately behind MBTI’s reputation as horoscopes for nerds
